They're royally shooting themselves in the foot with this one. There's an extra level of irony given that it's in the same year as the Halo 1 Remake, aka the game that carried the dumpster fire of a console that was the original xbox.
Like I have zero incitive to buy a PS6. Especially after seeing how long the Ps4 stayed relevant (i have friends who still play theirs).
When it's time to upgrade I'll probably turn my PlayStation into emulators and retire as a 'contemporary gamer'. Turns out making me wait 10 years between game releases just made me appreciate playing older games more than paying for new ones.
The physical disc doesn't change the fact that you don't own a license to the content otherwise than access through that medium.
A digital copy, with a fair license agreement, you could be able to stream or download or access this content on something besides an easily breakable disc.
But people are ducking retarded. Especially gamers. You live to be manipulated.
...the fuck you on about? That's how ownership of physical media works? You have the thing till the thing breaks, wears out, decays, or more importantly, you give it away or sell it for the next person to OWN it.
A digital copy, with a fair license agreement, means shit all if the company..oh, let's say has license agreements run out, or has a falling out with some studio and pulls their products from their store, and your library. All of a sudden, you don't own anything really, do you? Can't play that cool demo of a horror game because Sony pulled it. You don't even own what was a free download. But if that shit was on a disc?
You don't own the data. You own a piece of plastic and some foil. The foil is pitted with data. You don't own that data. You do own a mostly worthless piece of plastic.
If you don't think they can revoke your access to the data on "your media" you haven't been paying attention.
There's plenty of gaming consoles out there that never went online to get there license agreement for their DVD player or Blu-ray players and they can't play Jack shit. There's plenty of drives out there that are region locked so if your media isn't from that region you're not going to play it.
Of course the same applies to digital media and things like YouTube and other streaming services.
Again, you don't own shit except a worthless piece of plastic and a little fragile bit of foil with all that juicy data.
Ok so like...you agree then. We don't own anything EXCEPT the physical part of the media..so, we own physical media..so taking away the ability to purchase said physical media is..and say it with me..bad, right? A reason to be upset? Yeah?
What it does is that it moves the license management from a physical thing you own and can trade for, to an account-based digital license that is centrally managed by the platform owners.
What happens when the platform reaches its end of life, or if an account is stolen, has a different outcome based on physical vs digital.
You're getting down voted to hell, but you are absolutely right. Owning the disk isn't going to help you one bit when Sony pulls your license or locks you out of your account. The console is what decides if you can run those bytes from the disk, and Sony controls that console. The physical disk is pretty meaningless.
Even if you can't play the game, the fact that the disc is required to play the game as a method of license management still holds inherent value.
Just because Sony locks you out, it doesn't negate the resale value. And even if Sony kills your account and blacklist your console, there would be nothing stopping you from buying a new PS5 and play it completely offline with a local account. You'd be SOL with digital-only licenses.
13 Comments
ceenote@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 42d
In the interest of balance, I guess I'll nerf the money I give to Sony.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 41d
They sold disc drive ps5s at a markup, I have no idea how this is allowed mid generation.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 42d
They're royally shooting themselves in the foot with this one. There's an extra level of irony given that it's in the same year as the Halo 1 Remake, aka the game that carried the dumpster fire of a console that was the original xbox.
Like I have zero incitive to buy a PS6. Especially after seeing how long the Ps4 stayed relevant (i have friends who still play theirs).
When it's time to upgrade I'll probably turn my PlayStation into emulators and retire as a 'contemporary gamer'. Turns out making me wait 10 years between game releases just made me appreciate playing older games more than paying for new ones.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d
Don't forget indies, fan games, romhacks, mods and recompilations!
Krusty@quokk.au · -10 pts · 42d
The physical disc doesn't change the fact that you don't own a license to the content otherwise than access through that medium.
A digital copy, with a fair license agreement, you could be able to stream or download or access this content on something besides an easily breakable disc.
But people are ducking retarded. Especially gamers. You live to be manipulated.
Dzheyk@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 41d
...the fuck you on about? That's how ownership of physical media works? You have the thing till the thing breaks, wears out, decays, or more importantly, you give it away or sell it for the next person to OWN it.
A digital copy, with a fair license agreement, means shit all if the company..oh, let's say has license agreements run out, or has a falling out with some studio and pulls their products from their store, and your library. All of a sudden, you don't own anything really, do you? Can't play that cool demo of a horror game because Sony pulled it. You don't even own what was a free download. But if that shit was on a disc?
Hope that clears things up a bit for ya.
Krusty@quokk.au · -9 pts · 41d
You don't own the data. You own a piece of plastic and some foil. The foil is pitted with data. You don't own that data. You do own a mostly worthless piece of plastic.
If you don't think they can revoke your access to the data on "your media" you haven't been paying attention.
There's plenty of gaming consoles out there that never went online to get there license agreement for their DVD player or Blu-ray players and they can't play Jack shit. There's plenty of drives out there that are region locked so if your media isn't from that region you're not going to play it.
Of course the same applies to digital media and things like YouTube and other streaming services.
Again, you don't own shit except a worthless piece of plastic and a little fragile bit of foil with all that juicy data.
Dzheyk@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 41d
Ok so like...you agree then. We don't own anything EXCEPT the physical part of the media..so, we own physical media..so taking away the ability to purchase said physical media is..and say it with me..bad, right? A reason to be upset? Yeah?
Krusty@quokk.au · -3 pts · 41d
athatet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 41d
Slurs are gross.
Dzheyk@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 41d
HA. Fragile ego, seems about right.
mp3@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 40d
What it does is that it moves the license management from a physical thing you own and can trade for, to an account-based digital license that is centrally managed by the platform owners.
What happens when the platform reaches its end of life, or if an account is stolen, has a different outcome based on physical vs digital.
Krusty@quokk.au · -1 pts · 40d
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 40d
You're getting down voted to hell, but you are absolutely right. Owning the disk isn't going to help you one bit when Sony pulls your license or locks you out of your account. The console is what decides if you can run those bytes from the disk, and Sony controls that console. The physical disk is pretty meaningless.
mp3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 40d
Even if you can't play the game, the fact that the disc is required to play the game as a method of license management still holds inherent value.
Just because Sony locks you out, it doesn't negate the resale value. And even if Sony kills your account and blacklist your console, there would be nothing stopping you from buying a new PS5 and play it completely offline with a local account. You'd be SOL with digital-only licenses.
Krusty@quokk.au · 0 pts · 40d