Despite a spoofed 120Hz display claim, its eye-friendly dimming, strong telephoto macro performance, and unlocked bootloader make it an unusually competitive imitation
Was gonna say no graphene but id imagine it doesnt have the requirements for graphene. IMO lineage or stock aosp none of the other roms afaik (especially calyx and /e/) are worth installing due to lack of security updates.
Graphene is only leading in security updates if you choose to run their closed source builds. Otherwise the difference in security updates between open source Graphene, Calyx and Lineage (can't speak to other Roms, have no experience with them) is usually days.
Google made changes to the AOSP release cycle last year. This change took AOSP from an open source project where every commit was visible, to more of a source available "here is a tar ball with squished commits so you can't say we violated the license" once every 6 months sort of deal.
Due to those changes, AOSP forks are faced with 2 options. Stay fully FOSS, reverse engineer each tarball drop for figuring out what each new commit was for and adapting that into your codebase, or the Graphene approach of partnering with an OEM (Motorola) to gain access to embargoed AOSP code, and maintaining 2 codebases (Graphene FOSS, and the Graphene embargoed version).
Graphene is trying to maintain their security goals even if it means the end user can not completely compile the most secure version of their OS on their hardware.
Lineage, Calyx, and Lineage forks l4mg, /e/OS and iodeOS are (whether by choice or by the fact collaborating with an OEM is a difficult pain in the ass) taking the first route.
You can use GrapheneOS's open source update channel, but you miss out on some security updates.
Ive always felt every android fork has its place, just the same way every linux distro does. They all serve a different purpose.
Source available still allows them to vett the code, but just not know how Google got there, so not closed source, but not truly open. Did I understand correctly?
Wait... I might be genuinely stupid here... but do North Koreans have internet access? Like, obviously they're not stuck in the Stone Age or anything like that, but could a NK citizen, if given enough tech know-how to get around government surveillance, theoretically access, say, Google?
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Turret3857@infosec.pub · 26 pts · 40d
GET LINEAGE ON THIS SHIT ASAP!!!!
nebulahhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 39d
Was gonna say no graphene but id imagine it doesnt have the requirements for graphene. IMO lineage or stock aosp none of the other roms afaik (especially calyx and /e/) are worth installing due to lack of security updates.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 39d
Graphene is only leading in security updates if you choose to run their closed source builds. Otherwise the difference in security updates between open source Graphene, Calyx and Lineage (can't speak to other Roms, have no experience with them) is usually days.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 39d
Closed source builds? Isn't the point of GOS is that it's hardened and OSS?
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 39d
Google made changes to the AOSP release cycle last year. This change took AOSP from an open source project where every commit was visible, to more of a source available "here is a tar ball with squished commits so you can't say we violated the license" once every 6 months sort of deal.
Due to those changes, AOSP forks are faced with 2 options. Stay fully FOSS, reverse engineer each tarball drop for figuring out what each new commit was for and adapting that into your codebase, or the Graphene approach of partnering with an OEM (Motorola) to gain access to embargoed AOSP code, and maintaining 2 codebases (Graphene FOSS, and the Graphene embargoed version).
Graphene is trying to maintain their security goals even if it means the end user can not completely compile the most secure version of their OS on their hardware.
Lineage, Calyx, and Lineage forks l4mg, /e/OS and iodeOS are (whether by choice or by the fact collaborating with an OEM is a difficult pain in the ass) taking the first route.
You can use GrapheneOS's open source update channel, but you miss out on some security updates.
Ive always felt every android fork has its place, just the same way every linux distro does. They all serve a different purpose.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 38d
Source available still allows them to vett the code, but just not know how Google got there, so not closed source, but not truly open. Did I understand correctly?
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 38d
Yeah thats pretty much the gist of it
nebulahhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 38d
How do you get the closed source varient? I have never seen anything about this from graphene
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 38d
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27068-grapheneos-security-preview-releases
It should've asked you if you wanted to switch update channels a few months back.
nebulahhh@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 37d
Thanks I wasn't aware of this
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 39d
an equivalent is probably on taobao lol. this is just a rebrand
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 39d
Wait... I might be genuinely stupid here... but do North Koreans have internet access? Like, obviously they're not stuck in the Stone Age or anything like that, but could a NK citizen, if given enough tech know-how to get around government surveillance, theoretically access, say, Google?
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 39d
North Korea has its own intranet, essentially. About a decade ago, it got leaked on Reddit. Pretty mundane stuff. A news website, a recipe forum, etc.
And I imagine they can access the Chinese internet fairly easily
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 39d
Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks!
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 39d
this shit is just rebranded chinese phone
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 39d
Yeah... nothing about this is competitive at this point. I wouldn't trust any of my information with this device, unlocked bootloader or not.
DUMBLUCK@sub.community · -8 pts · 40d
He’ll no I will support Kim to killing North Koreans
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 40d
Better keep buying American phones then. Good thing they're not actively killing anyone at the noment.
undrwater@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 40d
I can't think of one American phone brand? Maybe some dumb phone.
Interesting point though.
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 40d
?????
undrwater@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 40d
Can you name one? Honestly.
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 40d
The article is about Google Pixel clones...
undrwater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 39d
I feel smart.
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 39d
I'll make you feel even smarter: the biggest phone brand in the West, and arguably the entire world, is American. 🍎
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 39d
I think what's dumb is not the phone...
undrwater@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 39d
Agreed. Complete and utter brain fart.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 39d
There is no way that you arent trolling..
undrwater@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 39d
Was completely sincere.
Unfortunately.
Apologies.
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 39d
Are you trolling or have you genuinely never heard of the Apple iPhone before? Or the American phone listed in the title of the article?
undrwater@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 39d
Brain fart. Complete and total.
I embarrass me.
Apologies.
sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 39d
All good lol