I feel like the breaking of spaghetti is a bit exaggerated. Typically people prefer not to break them, but there are plenty occasions in which Italian people do break spaghetti.
Such as using them in a soup, or cooking for an older person which may have problems using the fork properly.
However, if you break spaghetti because your pot is too small you're definitely doing it wrong. Keep breaking them if you want them smaller, but use a larger pot; that will prevent them from sticking together. You do want quite a lot of water to cook pasta, not just enough to cover them while they're completely packed in the pot.
Loanwords can change meanings after borrowing. "Pasta" in German and English refers the Italian specialties, while pasta in Italian means any kind of noodle and even some dumplings. "Noodle" kept its meaning in English from German nudel / Dutch noedel.
English is not my native tongue, but going by Wikipedia (written by native speakers I hope) "noodle" does in fact refer to a lot more than "long thin strands", as does the source words nudel (German) / noedel (Dutch) in their respective languages.
It's not all pasta. The small bead types or star shapes aren't generally called noodles. But otherwise what's wrong with calling an egg and flour mixture in a string or ribbon shape a noodle? It's a generic ingredient/shape descriptor. Is it only Asian cuisines for you?
Nothing against that. It's actually quite nice to only use one kind of pasta since that way you don't have a bunch of packets with a bit of pasta but not enough to cook.
If I may suggest, I feel it is better to have two types of pasta at all times though. One long and one short, those are the ones which make the biggest difference; keep your mezze penne but maybe add in some spaghetti or linguine.
Aglio olio e peperoncino is much better with long pasta, on the other hand something with larger chunks such as a pasta alla norma is generally better with short pasta.
As someone from NJ, I thought this was common knowledge. Each type is often paired with a particular kind of sauce or dish. Legend has it if you pair the wrong pasta with the wrong sauce, or commit the even graver sin of breaking the noodles in half before cooking them, a dark haired man in a wife beater with a fat gold chain will come and beat you with some deli meat. Some say his name is Sal, but he doesn’t speak, he just looks straight into your soul and gestures like this 🤌
It's just whatever culture you're familiar with. I grew up with a ton of different pasta names as well but I didn't know the difference between dumplings like gyoza, shumai, xiaolongbao, and wontons.
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TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · 28 pts · 14d
The only greater sin than breaking spaghetti in half, is calling pasta 'noodles'.
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 14d
I feel like the breaking of spaghetti is a bit exaggerated. Typically people prefer not to break them, but there are plenty occasions in which Italian people do break spaghetti.
Such as using them in a soup, or cooking for an older person which may have problems using the fork properly.
However, if you break spaghetti because your pot is too small you're definitely doing it wrong. Keep breaking them if you want them smaller, but use a larger pot; that will prevent them from sticking together. You do want quite a lot of water to cook pasta, not just enough to cover them while they're completely packed in the pot.
creamfresh@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 14d
Pasta is a class of noodles. Udon and spätzle are also noodles, but they're not pasta.
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 13d
It is the other way around, a noodle is a type of pasta.
Pasta literally means paste, it refers to the dough pasta is made from. Is fact, it also means dough and pastry.
creamfresh@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 13d
Loanwords can change meanings after borrowing. "Pasta" in German and English refers the Italian specialties, while pasta in Italian means any kind of noodle and even some dumplings. "Noodle" kept its meaning in English from German nudel / Dutch noedel.
quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 13d
If you want to properly classify things it is good to know where words come from.
TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id · -6 pts · 14d
No.
Spaghetti can be classed as a noodle. Not all pasta however is the long thin strand necessary to be classed as a noodle.
I absolutely despise the continued american assault on language. Words have meaning, even if americans are too stupid to understand the concept.
creamfresh@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 14d
English is not my native tongue, but going by Wikipedia (written by native speakers I hope) "noodle" does in fact refer to a lot more than "long thin strands", as does the source words nudel (German) / noedel (Dutch) in their respective languages.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 13d
I'm sure words have never once changed meaning in your country.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 13d
At one point, an Italian pasta company hired an engineering firm behind the Delorean to design a pasta that held the most sauce.
Marille
This is a country with priorities.
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 17 pts · 14d
Over a hundred? I'd place it in the several hundreds.
I myself have easily tried 100 different types. Currently have about 10 in my closet, and I'm out of pasta...
Moreover, I wouldn't call it pasta noodle, the word noodle implies an elongated shape; which is not always the case with pasta.
Apeman42@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 14d
Smh, it doesn't even list dinosauroni.
Rothe@piefed.social · 16 pts · 14d
It is so bizarre how Americans call all pasta "noodles".
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 13d
It's not all pasta. The small bead types or star shapes aren't generally called noodles. But otherwise what's wrong with calling an egg and flour mixture in a string or ribbon shape a noodle? It's a generic ingredient/shape descriptor. Is it only Asian cuisines for you?
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 13d
There's no reason for it to include eggs
Cort@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13d
Unless you're making egg noodles, those do require eggs.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 2 pts · 14d
My first encounter with it was an ex referring to "lasagna noodles". The expression on my face...
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 12 pts · 14d
I want a Spore-like game where I evolve the perfect pasta noodle for my virtual restaurant.
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 14d
There's no one perfect pasta shape, it depends on what you're cooking. That's why there's so many shapes.
But yes, I do want to see pasta forming civilization and fighting for the control of tomato sauce.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13d
Medium shells are good for everything! It's the perfect pasta.
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14d
I will use mezze penne for everything and you can't stop me!
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 14d
Nothing against that. It's actually quite nice to only use one kind of pasta since that way you don't have a bunch of packets with a bit of pasta but not enough to cook.
If I may suggest, I feel it is better to have two types of pasta at all times though. One long and one short, those are the ones which make the biggest difference; keep your mezze penne but maybe add in some spaghetti or linguine. Aglio olio e peperoncino is much better with long pasta, on the other hand something with larger chunks such as a pasta alla norma is generally better with short pasta.
TehBamski@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 14d
If the Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't part of this game, I don't want it.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 11 pts · 14d
I really can't get behind calling things other than noodles, noodles (except pool noodles).
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 13d
The list is incomplete:
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 13d
Eat a bag of dick pasta!
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 14d
Rotini: Fusili, but shorter
But fusili isn't on the list.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 3 pts · 13d
A fusili is just a longer rotini.
datavoid@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 14d
Million to one shot!
MunkyNutts@feddit.online · 1 pts · 13d
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 14d
As someone from NJ, I thought this was common knowledge. Each type is often paired with a particular kind of sauce or dish. Legend has it if you pair the wrong pasta with the wrong sauce, or commit the even graver sin of breaking the noodles in half before cooking them, a dark haired man in a wife beater with a fat gold chain will come and beat you with some deli meat. Some say his name is Sal, but he doesn’t speak, he just looks straight into your soul and gestures like this 🤌
grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 14d
If I break just one strand of pasta to summon Sal on purpose, will he at least give me the deli meat after he beats me with it? If so, worth it.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 13d
It's just whatever culture you're familiar with. I grew up with a ton of different pasta names as well but I didn't know the difference between dumplings like gyoza, shumai, xiaolongbao, and wontons.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 14d
When Sal's causin problems ya just need Mookie to Do The Right Thing
UpperBroccoli@feddit.org · 2 pts · 13d
Right now, Sal is busy punishing someone for putting pineapple on a pizza. Look:
Davel23@fedia.io · 9 pts · 14d
And there are still new ones being created. Cascatelli was made between 2018 and 2021.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 14d
Wow! I am amazed there are that many.
thenextguy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 14d
Spaghatta Nadle!
xSikes@feddit.online · 4 pts · 14d
I need a PowerPoint to see this
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 3 pts · 14d
The striped hats are my favorite
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 14d
But the only one that matters is angel hair.
UpperBroccoli@feddit.org · 2 pts · 13d
Ngl, that with some pesto napoletano and parmigiano was my go-to soul food for quite a while. Ready in a jiffie and just so good.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br · 3 pts · 13d
Someone need to invent the spagalocci just to make Ify retrospectively right
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 13d
That's ridiculous, why can't we just have one that covers everybody's use case?
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 13d
Just make a new one to cover every standard!