Shit like this makes me want to set up my own server because fuck, I just signed up on the original default domain and these Putin/Xi apologists embarrass me
I'm curious: what do you mean?
Starlink is internationally blacklisted for use in Russia and a citizen of an attacked nation helped circumvent this ban.
Ukraine caught their citizen and prosecuted under local law.
How can a nation "be in the right" or not in such a case, even leaving the international situation aside?
the government of ukraine is a vassal state of the good ol imperialist US of A who've committed genocide and other atrocities against ethnic russians. Russia of course stands against the west and looks to liberate the people of ukraine, naturally the USA controlled media will push their propaganda that ukraine are the good ones actually
90+% of the time that is enough, yeah. I have had some good experiences with people there though. I don't write off every one of the users, but it's usually enough. The tag is just more accurate after it's confirmed.
If it wasn't for Ukraine's aggression Russia would not have had to attack guys. When are you going to look at this though Putin's eyes? Does his murderous regime of criminals not inspire trust!?
But has any country on the planet worked harder to eliminate populations within Russia than Moscowites work to Moscowify the peoples within Russia? Many of the peoples of modern Russia has been completely eliminated and bred out through forced movement and separation to within the Moscowite population. It is a miracle Russia still has a sami population, as all other peoples of Kola no longer exist as separate tribes.
The biggest enemy of the peoples of Russia is the oligarchy in Moscow, not any external force can or will combat their cruelty towards its own peoples.
Can we cool it with the homophobic language. Blowjobs aren't inherently a bad thing and we shouldn't push the idea that giving them means you're subservient. There's other ways to abuse these pieces of shit
Interpreting the mere mention of fellatio in a criticism as inherently homophobic is a YOU problem.
It's not homophobic to accuse someone whose gender you don't know of providing sexual pleasure to awful people as an insult.
For the record, I'm very much pro-blowjob between consenting adults of any gender identity and sexual preference, but equally against fascists receiving pleasure of any kind.
You are using blowjobs to denigrate a person and contributing to a long history of homophobia in regard to hierarchical roles of people who give oral or receive anal as subservient lesser people.
It is 100% homophobic to use sucking dick as an insult, there is no positive connotation behind your comment. You were not using male oral sex as a positive statement, the goal was to shame someone for it.
Only in the sense of giving pleasure to someone who deserves none AKA caping for a dictator.
I already explained this, so please put away your preconceived notions that expressions can only be interpreted in the way you say they should.
contributing to a long history of homophobia in regard to hierarchical roles of people who give oral or receive anal as subservient lesser people.
Only in the case of people like yourself who can't divorce meaning from metaphor.
It is 100% homophobic to use sucking dick as an insult
Nope. Stop repeating your false preconception and READ my explanation from before ffs!
there is no positive connotation behind your comment.
Again, giving pleasure or advantage to those who don't deserve it is a negative thing. Context matters.
the goal was to shame someone for it.
No, the goal was clearly to shame someone for glorifying the war crimes of a fascist dictator.
I already explained that I don't consider oral sex between consenting adults in any way shameful regardless of whether you're receiving or giving.
Read the original comment and my clarification again. The intention and context is 100% free from homophobia, just like I wouldn't be shaming sartorial choices if I had chosen the milder "caping for Putin".
It's about feeling the need to give pleasure to the asshole. I don't care if you're gay. That's fine. I care if the people you want to please are murderous authoritarian dictators. If you think that's homophobic, then that's implying you think being gay makes you love dictators, which would be an odd belief to hold.
If you want to suck a morally upstanding person's cock, that's a good thing.
If you want to suck an evil person's cock, that's a bad thing.
I like that you think you can just dictate something and say it's not up for discussion while it is literally being discussed, and there are valid responses. No, you don't get to decide this. You are not the arbiter of language, and you don't get to decide what other people perceive. It's fine to ask nicely, but not in the manner you're doing. You can say "I think [x], so please stop" but that's not what you're doing. You're trying to tell us what is meant.
While we're at it, aren't asshole, pussy, dick, and just about every other insult not allowed too? Are we just not allowed to speak, because language has old connotations built into it? Are you going to start telling people that gendered romantic languages are wrong? What about something like gentlemen, which originally meant someone from a good family?
No, trying to fix language like this is pretty ridiculous. They didn't say anything homophobic. Just because you read something into it doesn't mean everyone else has to change. I think most people wouldn't think the comment above is saying the person is bad because they're subservient. It's clear that it's bad because of the person they're trying to please.
I interact almost exclusively with queer community. Not a single person I've interacted with has ever had a problem with using cocksucking as an insult and many of them have used such a phrase themselves
I’m not going to spend my time arguing with a lib about this.
Dude, view my comment history. Cut your bullshit. (Is this not an allowed phrase, because a cow's shit isn't bad, so it must be misandrist?) You don't get to decide whatever you want, like me being a "lib" because I don't agree with your authoritarian view on language, and force everyone else to agree. You could try explaining why you don't like something, and try to convince others, instead of just telling people it is whatever you think.
I am not the one who used this language though. I purely explained that it doesn't mean what you want just because you said so. If you want to remove it, you should put it in the rules. Again, so much language needs to be removed if you start going this route. I don't think you want to spend all your time on this.
This always confused me. What makes you think Ukraine are nazis or any more Nazi than Russia? Is Russia some massively progressive nation? They cool to black people, gays and Jews? Not really lol
49 Comments
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 32d
Damn! That is nowhere near enough for this traitor
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 32d
That's more than they give traitors here in America.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
Here we seek out the worst of them to make them president.
picklerick@lemmy.ml · -91 pts · 32d
traitor? dont tell me you actually believe that ukraine is in the right here??
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 32d
Here you can see .ml in the wild
lps2@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 31d
Shit like this makes me want to set up my own server because fuck, I just signed up on the original default domain and these Putin/Xi apologists embarrass me
Flatfire@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 31d
6 day old account no less
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 60 pts · 32d
I'm curious: what do you mean? Starlink is internationally blacklisted for use in Russia and a citizen of an attacked nation helped circumvent this ban.
Ukraine caught their citizen and prosecuted under local law.
How can a nation "be in the right" or not in such a case, even leaving the international situation aside?
picklerick@lemmy.ml · -68 pts · 32d
the government of ukraine is a vassal state of the good ol imperialist US of A who've committed genocide and other atrocities against ethnic russians. Russia of course stands against the west and looks to liberate the people of ukraine, naturally the USA controlled media will push their propaganda that ukraine are the good ones actually
Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 58 pts · 32d
Oh. That.
Interestingly a position not shared but Russians nor Ukraines I've talked to. Like, people? Not news outlets.
But now I get it, you're maliciously evil, not just having different point of views.
docus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 32d
Part of me wants to block you, the other part is curious to see what other deranged stuff you come up with.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 32d
Tag them. It's the best of both worlds. You instantly recognize the bullshit, but you also get the entertainment.
Liz@midwest.social · 10 pts · 32d
They tagged themselves automatically with the .ml instance.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 32d
90+% of the time that is enough, yeah. I have had some good experiences with people there though. I don't write off every one of the users, but it's usually enough. The tag is just more accurate after it's confirmed.
docus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 32d
Thanks for the tip, never used that option but I like it.
x7HlPDq9dSNO6v3A9@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 32d
I have them tagged as "absolute nutter" for this exact reason.
Liz@midwest.social · 1 pts · 32d
What are you using to access lammy? I don't see a way to tag on Jeroba.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 32d
Thunder supports tagging, so do several other clients I believe.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 32d
They're endlessly entertaining
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 32d
If it wasn't for Ukraine's aggression Russia would not have had to attack guys. When are you going to look at this though Putin's eyes? Does his murderous regime of criminals not inspire trust!?
Leviathan@fedinsfw.app · 17 pts · 32d
They purposely trained you wrong, as a joke!
ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 32d
Griffus@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 32d
But has any country on the planet worked harder to eliminate populations within Russia than Moscowites work to Moscowify the peoples within Russia? Many of the peoples of modern Russia has been completely eliminated and bred out through forced movement and separation to within the Moscowite population. It is a miracle Russia still has a sami population, as all other peoples of Kola no longer exist as separate tribes. The biggest enemy of the peoples of Russia is the oligarchy in Moscow, not any external force can or will combat their cruelty towards its own peoples.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 32d
i think you mean indigenous russians, vs white russians. they have been eliminating them by sending them to ukraine.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 32d
Seeing that the bullshit is flying everywhere, here is my bullshit. trump is the horse and putin is the carrot.
spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 31d
But then the wrong one is orange
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 31d
Idiot, how do you explain all the opposition party members that keep defenestrating themselves? Or Navalny getting polonium soup?
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 31d
Lol, by force? And to be taken over by mother Russia? Lol.
Worstdriver@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 32d
Let me put this in a way you can understand:
Death to Putin.
Death to his generals, his officials, his administrators, and his bureaucrats.
Death to every member of the Russian military on Ukrainian soil.
Russia will never know peace until it leaves Ukraine in peace, for even if Russia were to conquer the land, still would the people fight on.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 32d
Look, I'm really sorry to have to break it to you, but ...
Fuck Putin.
Fuck Putin to the moon.
Putin is a cunt.
And, just to reiterate, fuck Putin.
MrRandom@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 32d
found the NPC
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 31d
If you bootlick for putin then just move there.
picklerick@lemmy.ml · -63 pts · 32d
hopefully he makes it through illegal nazi detainment
Lag@piefed.world · 36 pts · 32d
When Russia projects
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 32d
Hopefully you stop making it look as if shitlibs are right about horseshoe theory by sucking Putin's fascist cock
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 32d
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 32d
That is impossible because they cant stop themselves from doing that.
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 32d
Can we cool it with the homophobic language. Blowjobs aren't inherently a bad thing and we shouldn't push the idea that giving them means you're subservient. There's other ways to abuse these pieces of shit
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 32d
Interpreting the mere mention of fellatio in a criticism as inherently homophobic is a YOU problem.
It's not homophobic to accuse someone whose gender you don't know of providing sexual pleasure to awful people as an insult.
For the record, I'm very much pro-blowjob between consenting adults of any gender identity and sexual preference, but equally against fascists receiving pleasure of any kind.
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 32d
You are using blowjobs to denigrate a person and contributing to a long history of homophobia in regard to hierarchical roles of people who give oral or receive anal as subservient lesser people.
It is 100% homophobic to use sucking dick as an insult, there is no positive connotation behind your comment. You were not using male oral sex as a positive statement, the goal was to shame someone for it.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 32d
Only in the sense of giving pleasure to someone who deserves none AKA caping for a dictator.
I already explained this, so please put away your preconceived notions that expressions can only be interpreted in the way you say they should.
Only in the case of people like yourself who can't divorce meaning from metaphor.
Nope. Stop repeating your false preconception and READ my explanation from before ffs!
Again, giving pleasure or advantage to those who don't deserve it is a negative thing. Context matters.
No, the goal was clearly to shame someone for glorifying the war crimes of a fascist dictator.
I already explained that I don't consider oral sex between consenting adults in any way shameful regardless of whether you're receiving or giving.
Read the original comment and my clarification again. The intention and context is 100% free from homophobia, just like I wouldn't be shaming sartorial choices if I had chosen the milder "caping for Putin".
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 32d
It's about feeling the need to give pleasure to the asshole. I don't care if you're gay. That's fine. I care if the people you want to please are murderous authoritarian dictators. If you think that's homophobic, then that's implying you think being gay makes you love dictators, which would be an odd belief to hold.
If you want to suck a morally upstanding person's cock, that's a good thing.
If you want to suck an evil person's cock, that's a bad thing.
It isn't the cocksucking that's at issue.
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 32d
It is 100 percent the cocksucking that is the issue. Which is exactly why I am bringing this up.
Insult people without using one of the most common homophobic insults. This is not up for discussion.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 32d
I like that you think you can just dictate something and say it's not up for discussion while it is literally being discussed, and there are valid responses. No, you don't get to decide this. You are not the arbiter of language, and you don't get to decide what other people perceive. It's fine to ask nicely, but not in the manner you're doing. You can say "I think [x], so please stop" but that's not what you're doing. You're trying to tell us what is meant.
While we're at it, aren't asshole, pussy, dick, and just about every other insult not allowed too? Are we just not allowed to speak, because language has old connotations built into it? Are you going to start telling people that gendered romantic languages are wrong? What about something like gentlemen, which originally meant someone from a good family?
No, trying to fix language like this is pretty ridiculous. They didn't say anything homophobic. Just because you read something into it doesn't mean everyone else has to change. I think most people wouldn't think the comment above is saying the person is bad because they're subservient. It's clear that it's bad because of the person they're trying to please.
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com MOD · -2 pts · 32d
I’m not going to spend my time arguing with a lib about this. I suggest you go interact with more queer communities and get their view on this.
I’ve explained that such language is not welcome here and if I see it again I will remove it.
LostCarcosan@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 32d
I interact almost exclusively with queer community. Not a single person I've interacted with has ever had a problem with using cocksucking as an insult and many of them have used such a phrase themselves
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 32d
Dude, view my comment history. Cut your bullshit. (Is this not an allowed phrase, because a cow's shit isn't bad, so it must be misandrist?) You don't get to decide whatever you want, like me being a "lib" because I don't agree with your authoritarian view on language, and force everyone else to agree. You could try explaining why you don't like something, and try to convince others, instead of just telling people it is whatever you think.
I am not the one who used this language though. I purely explained that it doesn't mean what you want just because you said so. If you want to remove it, you should put it in the rules. Again, so much language needs to be removed if you start going this route. I don't think you want to spend all your time on this.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 31d
rick would kick your ass for being a shitheel.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 31d
This always confused me. What makes you think Ukraine are nazis or any more Nazi than Russia? Is Russia some massively progressive nation? They cool to black people, gays and Jews? Not really lol