Sometimes, as a scientist, a system I'm building needs to be tested by humans. If so my proposed test/experiment is reviewed by an Institutional Review Board to make sure it isn't unethical.
Every once in a while I complain to myself because doing IRB review is kind of a hassle, but then I remember that there are fucking monsters like this guy around, so it's a good idea.
And done, can't read past that.. I am not only disgusted by this fucking psychopath but every one around him who enabled this shit. How many goddamned people thought themselves as normal, upstanding people and helped this fucking guy?
These experiments showed Harlow what total and partial isolation did to developing monkeys, but he felt he had not captured the essence of depression, which he believed was characterized by feelings of loneliness, helplessness, and a sense of being trapped, or being "sunk in a well of despair", he said.
This was horrifying by ‘70s standards, a time when animal welfare wasn’t a major issue. But other than suggestions to tone down his naming no one tried to stop him.
I read an article on this experiment earlier today but it didn't mention the rape racks. I wonder how much that contributed to the female isolates hating their children compared to just the lack of social adaptation.
I should have guessed with a title like "Pit of Despair" but still I was unprepared for that rough read. God damn, humans find some extraordinary ways to suck.
Horrifying, yet, I remember learning about how ethical standards developed because of researchers like this. In a way, if no one ever went that far, would we ever know how evil humans could be, and how to protect against it?
People that had clear psychological issues, and authority!
18 Comments
Sergio@piefed.social · 38 pts · 24d
Sometimes, as a scientist, a system I'm building needs to be tested by humans. If so my proposed test/experiment is reviewed by an Institutional Review Board to make sure it isn't unethical.
Every once in a while I complain to myself because doing IRB review is kind of a hassle, but then I remember that there are fucking monsters like this guy around, so it's a good idea.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 23d
Right? And lets be honest plenty of unethical stuff still gets past IRB’s.
SGforce@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 24d
And done, can't read past that.. I am not only disgusted by this fucking psychopath but every one around him who enabled this shit. How many goddamned people thought themselves as normal, upstanding people and helped this fucking guy?
200ok@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 24d
Oh damn, I didn't even get that far. What horrible people
antbricks@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 23d
"Animal husbandry" sure does sound less scary. The power of naming, I guess.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 23d
You made a good decision. I had hoped there would be some closure if I continued. There wasn’t.
jollyrogue@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 23d
Jesus Christ, take up painting or start a band.
TomMasz@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 24d
This was horrifying by ‘70s standards, a time when animal welfare wasn’t a major issue. But other than suggestions to tone down his naming no one tried to stop him.
mbp@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 24d
Absolutely horrifying stuff. Harlow was a monster, not just the guy who made fake monkey mommas.
artifex@piefed.social · 11 pts · 24d
Jesus Christ. I came for the Princess Bride references and left with yet another example of how horrific human beings can act when it's "for reasons".
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 24d
bless@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 21d
What are you reading to the boy Grandpa Max?!
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 24d
Jesus fucking christ. That dude needed a little less grant money and a lot more therapy.
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 24d
I read an article on this experiment earlier today but it didn't mention the rape racks. I wonder how much that contributed to the female isolates hating their children compared to just the lack of social adaptation.
HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 23d
why are humans such shit, how can you do this shit
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 24d
I should have guessed with a title like "Pit of Despair" but still I was unprepared for that rough read. God damn, humans find some extraordinary ways to suck.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 24d
That whole article is horrifying
yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 24d
Horrifying, yet, I remember learning about how ethical standards developed because of researchers like this. In a way, if no one ever went that far, would we ever know how evil humans could be, and how to protect against it?
People that had clear psychological issues, and authority!
Sound familiar? Putin? Trump? The Taliban?
How do we protect against it?