The problem here is that the kids are equating "coding" to "github".
Which is a fault of most educational programs being ran by corporations (and everyone else following the corporate) which is a fault of capitalism
Oh, we get you 5 dolla dolla grant. But you must sign up for GitHub, Slack, EasyEDA, Figma, OnShape. And then verify your ID, preferably with persona. Also, we store everything on Airtable.
Example (shameless self plug) ("code club" no different) (some org founded yesterday in a garage to be gone in 2 years would be not too different)
Nah. It just means that kids will have to use client side source control, or re-derive the old ways of source control.1.1.final.reallyfinalthistime.2b.beta.9
The criteria for being an age-restricted social media platform are as follows:
The sole purpose, or a significant purpose, of the service is to enable online social interaction between two or more end-users.
The service allows end-users to link to, or interact with, some or all of the other end-users.
The service allows end-users to post material on the service.
The service has a 'recommender feature' and/or a 'logged in feature', as defined in the Rules.
Material on the service is accessible to, or delivered to, end-users in Australia.
Or maybe microsoft should focus less on gamifying coding and turning it into an activity done for social credits, and make github more of a platform for... idk, version control and programming?
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diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 31 pts · 14d
The problem here is that the kids are equating "coding" to "github".
Which is a fault of most educational programs being ran by corporations (and everyone else following the corporate)
which is a fault of capitalismExample (shameless self plug) ("code club" no different) (some org founded yesterday in a garage to be gone in 2 years would be not too different)
Sxan@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 13d
Use any of a half dozen oþer public VCS hosters which don't have creepy social media addiction hooks? Sourcehut, Gitlab, one of þe Forges?
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 13d
Yup.
palordrolap@fedia.io · 28 pts · 14d
Nah. It just means that kids will have to use client side source control, or re-derive the old ways of source control.1.1.final.reallyfinalthistime.2b.beta.9
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 14d
are you implying they weren't already using source control.1.1.final.reallyfinalthistime.2b.beta.9?
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14d
Hell yeah that's my system. Feels so nostalgic, it's like pictures on the wall.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 14d
good.
nobody should be using github.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 4 pts · 14d
Yeah I was gonna say you don't need github to learn to code, and it's probably for the best if you don't use it.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 14d
codeberg and gitlab don't lack the same social features.
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 14d
Git cloning over SSH to some laptop you found in the garbage lacks them.
danekrae@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 14d
It sure is a slippery slope.. fallacy.
shweddy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14d
Surely the government wouldn't ban programming
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 1 pts · 14d
Github is already illegal for kids in Australia.
danekrae@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 13d
I can only find articles with titles like "Is GitHub going to get banned in Australia?"
Do you know where I can find it?
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 13d
Github isn't social media, so no it's not restricted.
https://www.esafety.gov.au/about-us/industry-regulation/social-media-age-restrictions/which-platforms-are-age-restricted
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 2 pts · 13d
Yeah here:
https://www.esafety.gov.au/about-us/industry-regulation/social-media-age-restrictions
The criteria for being an age-restricted social media platform are as follows:
The sole purpose, or a significant purpose, of the service is to enable online social interaction between two or more end-users.
The service allows end-users to link to, or interact with, some or all of the other end-users.
The service allows end-users to post material on the service.
The service has a 'recommender feature' and/or a 'logged in feature', as defined in the Rules.
Material on the service is accessible to, or delivered to, end-users in Australia.
danekrae@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13d
So you mean "no"?
https://www.esafety.gov.au/about-us/industry-regulation/social-media-age-restrictions/which-platforms-are-age-restricted
Services eSafety considered were not age-restricted social media platforms
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 0 pts · 13d
The fact that the cyber cops choose not to enforce it doesn't mean it's legal. The law and the cyber cops have two different interpretations.
GaumBeist@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 13d
Or maybe microsoft should focus less on gamifying coding and turning it into an activity done for social credits, and make github more of a platform for... idk, version control and programming?
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 14d
You don't need a github account to access public code repos on github though??
Alberat@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 14d
they changed it a week or so ago
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 14d
What are you talking about? This is not true.
Alberat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 14d
did I dream it?
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 14d
Meh, I don't blame you, nobody knows what they will think of next.
ladicius@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14d
You need any GitHub repo I as a not even registered non user could download for you in my non VPN browser?
0ops@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 14d
I just tried it in an incognito tab... still works
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13d
You get rate limited when not logged in. Stuff like looking at commit history can trigger it.
But this is to block abusive scrapers, I think. Pretty much all the internet has had to do something similar.
…And you can download releases or browse individual files just fine.
cally@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 14d
you dont need github to code
Speiser0@feddit.org · 7 pts · 14d
The github TOS already have an age limit for accounts:
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 14d
leadore@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13d
This makes absolutely no sense.
RQG@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 14d
If anything disallowing anything just makes kids and teens want to do it even more.