Lemmy Zip management banned all of their 1380 users from fun content because of the reason "denialism".

https://lemmy.zip/c/funhole@lemmy.sdf.org

https://lemmy.zip/u/qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org

https://lemmy.zip/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=25927

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13 points · 51 comments · view on lemmy.world

51 Comments

Demigodrick@piefed.zip · 17 pts · 29d (22 replies)

Hi there

You got banned from lemmy.zip (over a year ago btw) for denying the genocide in Palestine.

This has the effect of removing the communities you moderate too, otherwise they wouldn't be moderated from our side.

Quite happy standing by that decision.

socsa@piefed.social · 5 pts · 29d (16 replies)

Is there a link to the denial?

Demigodrick@piefed.zip · 16 pts · 29d (15 replies)

image

It's hard to traverse when someone has been banned & their content removed - thats just the first thing that jumps out in the modlog.

socsa@piefed.social · 13 pts · 29d (14 replies)

Ouch. Thank you for posting revelatory content...

pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 29d (13 replies)

it's a title of an article that was shared in c/news

The block boss doesn't understand that.

ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 29d (10 replies)

But the body of the article also claims that it isn't a genocide, and tries to conflate antizionism with antisemitism by saying that people who call it a genocide are one of those things (or both), and that it's just a way to hate on Jewish people (instead of it clearly being a charge against the Israeli government). Per the text:

So why does the argument over the word “genocide” matter? Two reasons.

First, while some pundits and scholars may sincerely believe the genocide charge, it is also used by anti-Zionists and antisemites to equate modern Israel with Nazi Germany. The effect is to license a new wave of Jew hatred, stirring enmity not only for the Israeli government but also for any Jew who supports Israel as a genocide supporter. It’s a tactic Israel haters have pursued for years with inflated or bogus charges of Israeli massacres or war crimes that, on close inspection, weren’t. The genocide charge is more of the same but with deadlier effects.

What is qrstuv's stance on the body of the text?

pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 29d (9 replies)
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 29d

I wish that was more helpful in understanding their views, but unfortunately I've seen pro-israeli people who try to couch things by mentioning that the killing of Palestinians is bad, but (insert qualifier for why Israel has a right to defend itself, etc). To be clear I'm not saying that qrstuv is doing that as well there, just that it doesn't really clear things up as much as hoped.

I also want to mention I am not a fan of purity testing, I think it can result in witch hunts and potentially mob sentiment, but there is a point where it's useful for someone to make their views clear so as not to be misunderstood. qrstuv has been posting what I would personally consider pro-israeli propaganda nytimes articles for quite some time now, without ever adding any of their own additional context that would clearly show they are posting it to point out how ridiculous it is, to mock, etc.

Some Examples (most of which now appear to be deleted from sdf itself? but are still are visible on my instance):

I'm a big fan of Funhole, and I get that this is a very jokey sorta group where serious responses aren't the norm, but I do think in this instance it'd probably be appropriate for them to be less ambiguous on their stance just to clear the air here.

That's just my 2 cents.

marduk@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Can't prove OP isn't the NYT

pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 29d

Touché!

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org MOD · -10 pts · 29d (4 replies)

Quite happy standing by that decision.

rule 1 victim blaming

Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 29d (3 replies)

Not that there aren't sometimes genuine instances of mod abuse, but how is a mod supposed to defend themselves and their reputation without being able to reply to reports on here with their reasoning?

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org · -6 pts · 29d (2 replies)

By not including the victim blaming at the very end of their otherwise perfectly fine post.

ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 29d (1 reply)

How is them stating they are willing to stand by a decision they made victim blaming?

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org · -6 pts · 29d

This is a safe space. If anyone is pleased at the abuse that has been levied towards a thread creator, then it's victim abuse, regardless of their involvement.

Linearity@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 29d (2 replies)

wtf? I thought .zip was one of the more flexible instances; they even federate with hexbear. What could have possibly happened?

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 29d

Maybe "hexbear" is where you should start your search? It's the worst lemmy out there.

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -9 pts · 29d

Thank you for your support.

pieguy@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 30d (1 reply)

Well that's denialism for y'a: They're denying their userbase access to your content

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -7 pts · 29d

Thank you for your support.

Krusty@quokk.au · 7 pts · 29d (1 reply)

I have that entire instance blocked.

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -7 pts · 29d

Thank you for your support.

wesker@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 29d (1 reply)

I'm so sorry this happened to you again, and again.

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -6 pts · 29d

Thank you for your support.

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com · 6 pts · 30d (6 replies)

gotta be better instances out there that dont make those decisions for users

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 29d

OP was instance banned for being a zionist, so meh. TDI.

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -5 pts · 29d (4 replies)

Thank you for your support.

Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 29d (3 replies)

Shut up.

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org MOD · 0 pts · 29d (2 replies)

rule 1 victim blaming

CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d (1 reply)

You win the Victim Olympics here is your golden haemorrhoid pillow, coward.

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 28d

I'm just mod.

pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 30d (1 reply)

I'm so sorry you've done this to us!

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -7 pts · 29d

Thank you for your support.

pieguy@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 29d (1 reply)

wait wtf there's no search query for me to giggle at!

qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · -4 pts · 29d

Thank you for your support.

prettybunnys@piefed.social · 3 pts · 29d

Thank you for abusing the mods

mrdown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Fuck you zionazi

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org MOD · 0 pts · 28d

rule 1 victim blaming

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d (1 reply)

You got banned for being a zionist? If anything, for having to interact with your content, mods were the victims here. You're breaking rule 1.

notwesker@lemmy.sdf.org MOD · 0 pts · 28d

rule 1 victim blaming

Krusty@quokk.au · 2 pts · 29d

Uhm. You're banned there.

Try your current account server: https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/funhole (manually copy and paste this into a new tab if needed)

And not https://lemmy.zip/ ...

decolo@piefed.social · 2 pts · 29d

directional clicking intensifies

ParadoxConstant@thelemmy.club · -4 pts · 29d

I’m so sorry this happened to you.