The Nazis were an expansionist regime propped up by a corrupt authoritarian reactionary government that tried to acquire Ukraine by sending tanks and soldiers.
The Ukrainians literally just did whole dog and pony show in reburying, celebrating, and memorializing a literal ultra-nationalist, nazi-aligned, anti-Semitic, 20th century politician - at the behest of Zelenskyy himself.
You made the most surface level comparison between the Nazis and Russia, then threw a massive tantrum when someone pointed out that Ukraine keeps putting the spotlight on their Nazi collaborators. Poland is currently withholding fighter jets because Ukraine named a military unit in honor to the UPA, which collaborated with the Nazis in a massacre of over 100,000 Poles. Ukraine is literally pushing their allies away in order to honor Nazis
You do realize the article is about the Russian justification for war, and it's complete horseshit?
Fuck off, I'm not interested in your Russia apologetics. Ukraine doing something fucked up is no justification for an imperial invasion. That's the discussion being had.
Would you agree with the statement that "There is some concern about the Ukrainians' propensity to elevate or otherwise celebrate historical figures with direct ties or loose alignment to the Nazis or other ultra right wing factions"
By stating that Ukraine sympathize with nazis, you're lending credence to Russia's bullshit casus belli. If this conversation with OP was happening in a vacuum where context didn't matter, you'd have a strong argument that you didn't say they were right to invade because of it. But this is the real world, and propping up a paper-thin casus belli in a thread about Russia defending the same can really only be read as supporting Russia, here.
Comrade, this is exhausting. You're not winning hearts and minds by being a two-faced piece of shit. You do know that, right? Maybe examine why you're ashamed to support Russia if you really think they're worthy of support rather than pretending you're not saying the shit you are. Christ on bikes, man.
when the facts change, I change my mind. Recent events have brought Trump’s governing style into sharper focus. Fascist best describes it, and reluctance to use the term has now become perverse
and Italy elected Mussolini's granddaughter, Russian should invade there next ?
Russia uses fascist or nazi as a slur like commie is used in the west, with zero self reflection or understanding.
My point is that your point has nothing to do with why Russia's reasons for invading Ukraine.
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Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1d
The Nazis were an expansionist regime propped up by a corrupt authoritarian reactionary government that tried to acquire Ukraine by sending tanks and soldiers.
Now who does that resemble?
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 1d
The Ukrainians literally just did whole dog and pony show in reburying, celebrating, and memorializing a literal ultra-nationalist, nazi-aligned, anti-Semitic, 20th century politician - at the behest of Zelenskyy himself.
https://kyivindependent.com/remains-of-20th-century-leader-yevhen-konovalets-brought-back-to-ukraine-for-reburial-with-state-military-honors/
Interesting hairstyle to say the least
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1d
I see. So that gives Russia carte blanche to invade, killing and raping their way across a foreign country.
The excuses y'all use need some work.
Wait till you hear about the shit Putin does on the reg.
WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social · -2 pts · 1d
You made the most surface level comparison between the Nazis and Russia, then threw a massive tantrum when someone pointed out that Ukraine keeps putting the spotlight on their Nazi collaborators. Poland is currently withholding fighter jets because Ukraine named a military unit in honor to the UPA, which collaborated with the Nazis in a massacre of over 100,000 Poles. Ukraine is literally pushing their allies away in order to honor Nazis
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
You do realize the article is about the Russian justification for war, and it's complete horseshit?
Fuck off, I'm not interested in your Russia apologetics. Ukraine doing something fucked up is no justification for an imperial invasion. That's the discussion being had.
Get lost.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 1d
Lol try harder. Do show me where I said that.
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
Then I guess you replied to the wrong comment. Now get lost.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 1d
Would you agree with the statement that "There is some concern about the Ukrainians' propensity to elevate or otherwise celebrate historical figures with direct ties or loose alignment to the Nazis or other ultra right wing factions"
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1d
I'd agree with the statement "fuck off," but that's because I have no interest interacting with a sea lion.
Now run along little guy.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 1d
Lol, that was me giving you the opportunity to say "Nazis are bad". About what I expected for when a liberal has to face the facts.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1d
By stating that Ukraine sympathize with nazis, you're lending credence to Russia's bullshit casus belli. If this conversation with OP was happening in a vacuum where context didn't matter, you'd have a strong argument that you didn't say they were right to invade because of it. But this is the real world, and propping up a paper-thin casus belli in a thread about Russia defending the same can really only be read as supporting Russia, here.
Comrade, this is exhausting. You're not winning hearts and minds by being a two-faced piece of shit. You do know that, right? Maybe examine why you're ashamed to support Russia if you really think they're worthy of support rather than pretending you're not saying the shit you are. Christ on bikes, man.
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
Now that is a proper constructive criticism!
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 1d
what has that got to do with Russia invading ? nothing.
the US is a fascist state, Russia having a go there ?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/america-fascism-trump-maga-ice/685751/
and Italy elected Mussolini's granddaughter, Russian should invade there next ?
Russia uses fascist or nazi as a slur like commie is used in the west, with zero self reflection or understanding.
My point is that your point has nothing to do with why Russia's reasons for invading Ukraine.
spacegoat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Reminder that we can block these fools
mrdown@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
How about helping palestinians against the israeli nazis?
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
I mean help Palestine and Ukraine, both are victims of unwarranted aggression
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 1d
There are some Poles who might disagree.
Well, they aren’t alive anymore. But if they were alive, they might disagree.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
And your sons are going to be fighting soil microbes and helping the plants of Ukraine grow tall and strong