Hunger stone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_stone

A hunger stone (German: Hungerstein) is a type of hydrological landmark common in Central Europe.

These stones were carved during droughts to mark the water level as a warning to future generations that they will have to endure famine-related hardships if the water sinks to this level again. One famous example in the Elbe river in Děčín, Czech Republic, has "Wenn du mich siehst, dann weine" ("If you see me, then weep") carved into it as a warning.[1]

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Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 41 pts · 3d

Little did they know that a few hundred years later the meaning has changed to:
"If you see me each year, you screwed up."

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 34 pts · 3d (5 replies)

A slightly less dreadful Hungerstein story:

I looked up the nearest Hungerstein to my hometown, a few km down the river (in Traben-Trarbach at the river Moselle).

It had no inscriptions, but the inhabitants of the town made a kind of event out of its infrequent appearance starting from the mid 19th century:

They entombed a bottle of wine in it during each draught, to be ceremoniously retrieved the next time the Hungerstein showed up again and exchanged for a new one.

This fits somehow, as the people of my home region have a talent to find obscure reasons to throw parties...

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2d (4 replies)

Okay, but who gets to drink the wine? No way the whole town is gonna get to share that one bottle

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2d (3 replies)

The historic database I consulted didn't tell.

Apart from the 1942 incident, when the bath supervisor of the town (accidentally?) discovered the tiny chamber in the rock (during a high water period), found the bottle of wine put there during the 1920 draught and tasted it.

But given that Traben-Trarbach around 1900 was one of the largest wine trading centers in Europe (second only to Bordeaux), I guess that each inhabitant got its share of wine during the celebration... :-)

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2d (2 replies)

Damn, they couldn't even keep accurate records for 22 years to ensure such mishaps don't occur? So much for that famed German bureaucracy...

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2d (1 reply)

Well... your read the part about the 2nd largest wine exchange in Europe? In a town with a few thousand inhabitants? ;-)

wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 2d

Bureaucracy is better with wine

naught101@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 3d

Damn, that's cool history, thanks for sharing!

I found this in a similar vein not too long ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsunami_stone

A tsunami stone is a type of stone monument found in Japan that warns people to move upwards after a large earthquake to avoid a potential tsunami. Some simply provide this warning, while others list death tolls, are placed near mass graves or say where homes should be built. They have a flat face and some are as high as 3.0 metres (10 ft) tall. Some are over 600 years old and some have aged so much that the characters written on them have disappeared. Most were placed in about 1896 after an earthquake and two tsunamis that year caused about 22,000 deaths. The tsunami stone in Aneyoshi says: "High dwellings are the peace and harmony of our descendants. ... Remember the calamity of the great tsunamis. Do not build any homes below this point."

snoons@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 3d

"2026 WE'RE SO FUCKED"

AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 7 pts · 3d (1 reply)

2015 was a big year for them, it seems

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 3d

Well, the numbers for 2026 are not in yet...

And given the fact that basically all the rivers here have reached record breaking lows, often by huge margins, the new observation count might be interesting...

tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 3d

These stones were carved during droughts to mark the water level as a warning to future generations that they will have to endure famine-related hardships if the water sinks to this level again.

Pumped irrigation from aquifers at a sustainable rate!

https://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EGU26/EGU26-1948.html?pdf

We present the technical design, operational testing, and hydrogeochemical assessment of a stormwater-based MAR pilot site implemented in November 2024 in Hüll (Hallertau region, Bavaria, Germany), an area characterized by intensive agriculture, recurrent local flooding, and strong groundwater demand for irrigation. The MAR system combines a stormwater retention basin for buffering flash-flood dynamics, treatment units, and recharge via an infiltration well targeting a highly heterogeneous Tertiary aquifer.

Initial results demonstrate robust system performance under variable stormwater conditions. The treatment units effectively reduce suspended solids and pesticide concentrations, enabling controlled recharge while minimizing risks to groundwater quality. Beyond quantitative water resource augmentation, the scheme shows potential qualitative benefits for agricultural groundwater systems.

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d

Looks like Wikipedia is getting a bunch of new photos for the article.

majster@lemmy.zip · -15 pts · 2d (13 replies)

Unprecedented weather...my ass. We are just unable to zoom out due to lack of data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_humid_period

P.S. before someone attacks me. I do support green transition, but I also hate hysteria about it.

drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 19 pts · 2d (2 replies)

https://xkcd.com/1732/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

"There is scientific consensus that the Earth has been consistently warming since the start of the Industrial Revolution, that the rate of recent warming is largely unprecedented,[1]: 8 [2]: 11  and that this warming is mainly the result of a rapid increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) caused by human activities."

EDIT: A new study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences has found that billions of people will be affected by heat unbearable for the human body if global temperature were to rise 2° C above pre-industrial levels.

majster@lemmy.zip · -11 pts · 2d (1 reply)

Not sure why you wrote this?

drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 2d

I didn't write a single thing. I copy and pasted links and excerpts.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 2d (6 replies)

That took place over 10000 years, not 100.

Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 2d

Exactly the point.
We are currently 100x speed running a similar change in a densely populated area that has an order of magnitude more people living in it than have ever lived combined in the Sahara region since the start of time.
And while Europe for now seems to be the most directly effected continent, the rest of the world is following only a few steps behind.
This totally is unprecedented.

majster@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 2d (4 replies)

From the link:

The AHP led to the widespread settlement of the Sahara and the Arabian Desert and had a profound effect on African cultures, including the birth of the Ancient Egyptian civilization.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d (3 replies)

Do you have trouble understanding time scale?

majster@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 2d (2 replies)

Do you? Ancient Egypt was 5000 years ago not 10000.

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2d

I said over the span of 10000 years, not 10000 years ago.

T00l_shed@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2d

You think ancient Egypt popped up over night or something?

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 2d

hysteria

Where??? What hysteria??

Literally what the fuck are you even referring to? It's the opposite of hysteria out here.

Nobody. Gives. A. Fuck.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2d (1 reply)

Wow, 2026 and we still have climate change deniers

majster@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2d

Where?