No. It dawned on people that if wfh worked great, which it did, then a bunch of office shit and managers would not be needed. Therefore, clearly wfh can't be working as well as it demonstrably did, if those people catch some consequences. Therefore, fuck off back to the office to stroke the narcissistic asshole manager's ego.
The reality is that it has nothing to do with worker productivity at all. The real issue is that so much of our economy is tied up in office building real estate values, to a point where if those office spaces go bust from being unnecessary then it could crash the economy. Especially considering that office space has historically been one of the safest investments, at least prior to mass WFH, and is therefore something that banks themselves are deeply invested in (using everyone else’s money, primarily).
As much as the office space is not needed like it used to be, everyone will be forced to work in them for at least as long as it will take for banks to diversify away from having our entire economy be anchored by investments in them
I know it's horses for courses and all that, but I rather like that setup.
I get on a bus/train whatever or in the car, and get into a work headspace for half an hour with some tunes. I do my work in a specific location, I use that commute back to switch off and read a bit of a book; and return home to a space where work is literally at the bottom of my priority list.
There are absolutely some benefits to remote and hybrid, but in my personal circs, it's nice having that big fat twelve mile geographic gab between "paid to give a fuck" and "not give a fuck".
I know exactly what you mean. I couldn’t ever work from home. My house is strictly do-not-give-a-fuck territory. I have to keep it that way so that when I arrive at work I can continue to not give a fuck.
Each person’s circumstances are different, and Im glad it works for you.
My experience was 45 minutes drive each way (or 80 min bus) the drive was stressful, because commuter traffic was slow and full of assholes (like me). I wasn’t compensated for that time or stress, I just carried it. Plus the cost of a 2nd car for no reason outside of getting to work.
Work from home gave all of that time and energy back to actually get to live my life during the week, rather than enter a coma like state of barely functioning until it was time to go to work again.
The extra cost of working at the office wasn’t worth it. It wasn’t accounted for in my salary fairly in my mind.
The whole work headspace thing is easy. Get up , get ready, work. At the end of the day, go for a run, get out of the headspace, shower and then its home relaxing time.
WFH was/is an amazing opportunity for people who work doesn’t demand on hand productivity in a warehouse, factory etc.
In terms of climate change, the effects of wide spread WFH and reduced commuter travel was real, and for that alone countries should have run with it, providing incentives to convert unused office space into affordable housing and transformed the landscapes of cities into more walkable spaces. granted the time to achieve that and the businesses that relied on daily office workers business would likely not have survived.
9 Comments
amio@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 8d
No. It dawned on people that if wfh worked great, which it did, then a bunch of office shit and managers would not be needed. Therefore, clearly wfh can't be working as well as it demonstrably did, if those people catch some consequences. Therefore, fuck off back to the office to stroke the narcissistic asshole manager's ego.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 11 pts · 8d
The reality is that it has nothing to do with worker productivity at all. The real issue is that so much of our economy is tied up in office building real estate values, to a point where if those office spaces go bust from being unnecessary then it could crash the economy. Especially considering that office space has historically been one of the safest investments, at least prior to mass WFH, and is therefore something that banks themselves are deeply invested in (using everyone else’s money, primarily).
As much as the office space is not needed like it used to be, everyone will be forced to work in them for at least as long as it will take for banks to diversify away from having our entire economy be anchored by investments in them
brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 8d
Did work get done on time? I don't see the issue.
SailorFuzz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 8d
Sometimes I take little personal planning meetings.... in bed... I'm not napping, I'm attacking the issue mentally from a different angle.
Thorry@feddit.org · 6 pts · 8d
Putting yourself in the optimal mindspace to tackle modern challenges in a high paced work environment!
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 8d
I still got one of them old timey jobs where you’re actually expected to show up and do work.
PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 8d
I know it's horses for courses and all that, but I rather like that setup.
I get on a bus/train whatever or in the car, and get into a work headspace for half an hour with some tunes. I do my work in a specific location, I use that commute back to switch off and read a bit of a book; and return home to a space where work is literally at the bottom of my priority list.
There are absolutely some benefits to remote and hybrid, but in my personal circs, it's nice having that big fat twelve mile geographic gab between "paid to give a fuck" and "not give a fuck".
As always, it's whatever works for you 😊
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 8d
I know exactly what you mean. I couldn’t ever work from home. My house is strictly do-not-give-a-fuck territory. I have to keep it that way so that when I arrive at work I can continue to not give a fuck.
running_ragged@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8d
Each person’s circumstances are different, and Im glad it works for you.
My experience was 45 minutes drive each way (or 80 min bus) the drive was stressful, because commuter traffic was slow and full of assholes (like me). I wasn’t compensated for that time or stress, I just carried it. Plus the cost of a 2nd car for no reason outside of getting to work.
Work from home gave all of that time and energy back to actually get to live my life during the week, rather than enter a coma like state of barely functioning until it was time to go to work again.
The extra cost of working at the office wasn’t worth it. It wasn’t accounted for in my salary fairly in my mind.
The whole work headspace thing is easy. Get up , get ready, work. At the end of the day, go for a run, get out of the headspace, shower and then its home relaxing time.
WFH was/is an amazing opportunity for people who work doesn’t demand on hand productivity in a warehouse, factory etc.
In terms of climate change, the effects of wide spread WFH and reduced commuter travel was real, and for that alone countries should have run with it, providing incentives to convert unused office space into affordable housing and transformed the landscapes of cities into more walkable spaces. granted the time to achieve that and the businesses that relied on daily office workers business would likely not have survived.