What's stopping you from registering for a socialist/dem-socialist political party?

For me it's the thought that it's somewhat probable that a future presidency is going to use that as a harassment / culling list

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HubertManne@piefed.social · 35 pts · 21h (1 reply)

I don't register for any party. I vote.

rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 20h

There are dozens of us.

kibblebits@quokk.au · 16 pts · 21h (1 reply)

You can vote whichever way you want regardless of party. Parties are for people who want to push an agenda.

DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1h

Unless you live in a state with closed primaries. Then its forced! And you only get to see the party you registered with and independent counts as its own

TabbsTheBat@pawb.social · 11 pts · 21h

Because registering to vote is not a thing here. Unless you mean register a party as in starting one? In which case a soc-dem party already exists in my country and it is hot garbage :p

Nemo@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 21h

I live somewhere with open primaries. I've never registered with any party.

neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 20h

Because I don't need to to vote for them. Besides, no party have proven deserving of my membership fee.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 19h

Germans have a very nice term for this:

Vorauseilender Gehorsam

(Anticipatory obedience)

It's not a good thing.

That said, just go vote.

CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 10h

In the US, you're probably not wrong. That ship has sailed, at least in the near term.

Reason number 1 for people in general is that it either costs more than zero or requires more than zero effort. Or, people who lean that way, anyway.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 11h

Better to take over the Democrats tbh. If they wanted to keep their party they shouldn't have gone full Reagan.

Jolteon@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 14h

In the US at least, the only thing that registering for a political party lets you do is vote in their primaries (in some states. In the rest of the states, it doesn't matter at all).

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 15h

Where i live you can only vote in the primary if you're a registered dem or rep

defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 14h

Political parties keep us divided and are one of the major issues in this country.

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 21h (21 replies)

I don't believe in politics.

gastroglizzy@piefed.social · 26 pts · 21h (13 replies)

Best start believing. Politics directly affects literally every single aspect of your day-to-day life whether you believe in it or not.

DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 20h (11 replies)

He has a right to an opinion. Modern day politics is just catering services to the Epstein class or sociopathic class.

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 19h (10 replies)

We'd do the same for anyone claiming they don't believe the earth is round, or that vaccines kill.

Sure, they can have their opinion, but we aren't going to reinforce the delusion.

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 15h (2 replies)

Maybe I should have been clearer. I don't believe my own political efforts have any power to change anything.

How much mental energy do you spend in political thought and how has the payoff for this expenditure been, under your own terms?

Cause to keep investing huge amounts of emotional energy in something you have no meaningful effect over with nothing to show... kinda sounds deluded to me

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 14h (1 reply)

I vote. That's about it, and that's all I ask.

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 14h

I go to vote, but I don't vote for any candidates.

DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 17h (6 replies)

Take a look around you and reflect. Politics and policies are mostly for the rich. Look at crimes and their “punishments” there are so many crimes literally just for poor people. You live in a broken world made for the upper class. You are nothing more than sheep for the sociopathic class.

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17h (5 replies)

The system works but only when people participate. When it feels like it isn't working, it's because there aren't enough people working it. All the uninterested and hopeless carry enough weight to tip the scales, and until they start getting involved, they are all sitting on the side of letting the people who fucked it up keep on fucking it up more.

DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16h (4 replies)

No that's bullshit. Capitalism creates a power dynamic that capitalists can take advantage of turning everyone into sheep end of discussion. You know why a child rapist can be elected president twice? Because of that exact power dynamic.

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 16h

And just think what would have happened if only 10% of the people who decided that they didn't have time to vote against fascist pedophiles had actually shown up.

He would have been one and done. He only won by about 1% more votes. About a third of registered voters didn't vote.

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 21h

You can think of it that way if you want. Whatever floats your boat, friend.

Witchfire@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 16h (6 replies)

Ah so you're part of the reason so many of us have been struggling to get basic human rights

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 16h (5 replies)

I'm sorry you feel this way and I'm sorry things are rough for you and others.

I do an honest painstaking attempt to fulfill my civic duties, as I understand them. The most important one of these is to attempt to deactivate the dehumanization and polarization that, the way I see it, is the root cause of the collapse of our civilization.

Psychos and dick bags will always have an advantage regarding securing power, whatever color they paint themselves in. What people that have moral concerns and care and want to see a better life for us all, as I'm sure you do, can do to this effect is to stop feeding the monsters. Not fall in their divisive hate speech, to not look at our fellow humans as if they have no soul because they were inoculated by a different mind virus than our own.

You see right wing vs left wing or maybe rich vs poor. I see healthy people and sick people. The sick spread their disease of hate, fear and dehumanization so others follow in their suit and they can get what their sick hearts desire... and many do, but the problem was never the people, it's the disease.

I'm a human too, btw, and I'm pretty sure I've seen some of your posts somewhere and iirc you seemed witty and well intended. I'm tempted to look at your post history now, but I'll do it after I finish my reply now lol.

Anyway, please don't drink the poison. There's love and care, wonder and beautiful things in your heart you may offer all, if you wanted to.

And the most miserable of men, those who have taken and harmed their way through this world in hopes of getting rid of the seething pain of a utilitarian, loveless existence where people are all instruments, maybe they will some day see people like us just being happy and kind to each other with basically nothing in our hands, and they might never admit it, but in the bottom of their minds they'll know they've been missing out and have wasted their entire lives.

I hope you can see what I'm getting at, and if you think I'm deluded I can't blame you at all. I probably am, too, but gotta believe in something, you know?

danciestlobster@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 11h (2 replies)

Friendly reminder that many small local positions on the ballot, as well as ballot measures, are both not as vehemently partisan and extremely important for influencing policy for your immediate community. Even if you don't like or want to participate in federal level politics, this is not a great reason to not vote for anything at any level.

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9h (1 reply)

You seem to be under the impression that my country's form of government and electoral system works like the USAs

danciestlobster@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1h

Fair. How does yours work?

Witchfire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 9h (1 reply)

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”

- MLK

Pudutr0n@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h

I mean I get what you're saying. You want a revolution? Go nuts. Just don't come whining to me when it gets cooped by the same people or the same degree of scumbags that caused it.

The problem was never about what we or others have or don't have in the external word.... I would expect a firewitch to understand this