Sure but I still don't get why they did that. Germans aren't going around insisting that their country be called Deutchland in english as well. Or Spain => España. Or Sweden => Sverige. Or Finland => Suomi. There's so many examples I could plug here. Languages have different names for countries, no need to throw a fit about it.
A fair few doesn't have a good pronunciation in other languages that those native speakers can reliably understand. That's why we have localizations in the first place. Here in Sweden, Turkey (Turkiet) doesn't sound like the bird (kalkon). It makes more sense to show the localized name and their internal name next to each other, and this is already common in many maps.
That's not so hard to remember! In France, turkey is called "dinde," derived from "d'Inde" ("of India"), which is much farther east than Türkiye. So just remember that in France, Türkiye = India.
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HailHydra@infosec.pub · 79 pts · 21h
0/10 map, no key
How am I meant to know which colour means Türkiye and which means not Türkiye
GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 19h
I think the blue part must be the ocean, since water is blue. Perhaps the white is Türkiye!
idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 20h
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 21h
If they never changed the name from Turkey we wouldn’t have this conundrum
protist@retrofed.com · 4 pts · 17h
In Türkiye, Turkey was always called Türkiye. They just asked the rest of the world to use the Turkish word.
Deme@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 8h
Sure but I still don't get why they did that. Germans aren't going around insisting that their country be called Deutchland in english as well. Or Spain => España. Or Sweden => Sverige. Or Finland => Suomi. There's so many examples I could plug here. Languages have different names for countries, no need to throw a fit about it.
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 7h
Names evolve over time for a variety of reasons. The examples you provide aren’t also used as an insult the way turkey (the bird) is.
Recently there’s also Czechia, Eswantini, North Macedonia.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 4h
A fair few doesn't have a good pronunciation in other languages that those native speakers can reliably understand. That's why we have localizations in the first place. Here in Sweden, Turkey (Turkiet) doesn't sound like the bird (kalkon). It makes more sense to show the localized name and their internal name next to each other, and this is already common in many maps.
protist@retrofed.com · 0 pts · 8h
I mean, they just asked the UN to use that name. No one is required to use it, and I don't recall it really being a fit
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 17h
Woosh
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 21h
here you go 🗝️
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6h
Türkiye's flag is red and white so I'm pretty sure it's either the red or the white
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 43 pts · 22h
i regularly forget that france is not turkiye so having this map really clears things up for me
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 20h
It'll definitely come in handy for driving. Every time I try to drive to Turkey I end up in Bratislava
abrake@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 15h
That's not so hard to remember! In France, turkey is called "dinde," derived from "d'Inde" ("of India"), which is much farther east than Türkiye. So just remember that in France, Türkiye = India.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 21h
Oh shit, it's straight up on the front page for the MFA.
https://www.mfa.gov.tr/default.en.mfa
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 16 pts · 21h
of course its on the front page, its a really useful map! !
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 20h
But it still doesn't tell us if Northern Cyprus is part of Turkey or not
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 15 pts · 19h
it’s clearly marked as not türkiye
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 13h
Woah, I'm impressed
Ougie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22m
You mean the occupied part of Cyprus
hansolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 21h
checking map
"Huh. So Japan ISN'T Turkiye? TIL, I guess."
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 20h
If someone hacks them, they need to replace that image with a picture of a turkey
remon@ani.social · 14 pts · 21h
Can confirm, am not in Turkey.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 20h
Are all those green lines also Turkiye?
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 20h
Not many people know that, but Türkiye controls all borders across the world.
otter@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 20h
To be fair, wikipedia does this too and I find it helpful. The problem is the color scheme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 13h
This map should include the Turkish diaspora. Would be helpful for finding the nearest kebab shop
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 12h
That would be the part in red.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 16h
Greece will be pleased with
CypressCyprusassaultpotato@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 16h
The Republic of Cyprus has been independent from Greece for some time now.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 10h
TY for gracefully avoiding my egregious mistake.
goes and reads Wikipedia
Oh, since 1960. In that case I'll re phrase it:
The Republic of Cyprus will be pleased.
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 7m
What's fucked up is I knew it was independent but I didn't realize it was never Greek. They got independence from Britain, like... what???
depletedDefenses@fedinsfw.app · 4 pts · 13h
Why don't they include the Northern Cyprus occupied territories? Are they stuck in the 1973??
Anchorxiety@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 20h
What country is the big white bit?
MBech@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 17h
It's both Turkey, while also not Turkey.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 15h
Also Turkey, but less flavourful.