This is bigger than US Presidents or UK royal family. This is international finance, the people that get US Presidents elected, the people that Putin takes a call from.
and why did Biden sit on it for four years? Why didn't he use it to bring Trump down before the election?
Same reason they didn't prosecute Nixon. Liberals in congress don't have spines, they are doing similar things to a lesser degree, they believe in the false idea of political decorum, and they don't want to set a precedent. Ultimately they fear taking away power from the executive branch, because if you limit the conservatives then you also limit liberals.
I'm guessing he knew that anything incriminating against Trump would be written off as a witch hunt. So him releasing it would have been a waste. Now that Trump has refused to release them, if there is anything incriminating, I believe it would be taken much more seriously.
I'm guessing also he wasn't conscious for the entirety of his presidency, so who knows.
No its worse. Canada, Europe and a lot of shitty people are involved. You are led to believe this is localized to a few countries. Shit the entire G7 wouldve known about this. Theyre all rich child rapist protection agencies. Steve Harper definitely knew about this shitshow. Thats the real reason why. It would make a lot of countries look like pieces of shits protecting the Epstein class.
Yes, the files weren't just Trump and Prince Andrew and other celebrities, but a lot of very wealthy people who aren't public figures, international puppeteers.
It's a lot of filthy rich people, probably the biggest scandal of our lifetime (and its still ongoing coverup)
How do I know? ... who else could keep this secret for over TWENTY YEARS? This is over Presidential level, this is as big as it gets on Earth.
So? They'll always say "witch hunt", fuck them. The files would speak for themselves.
Not a waste at all... in fact, the only waste is not releasing the files. Which he accomplished. Because he was worthless and/or perhaps nodded out and/or deranged.
I don't disagree with part 2 at all. Biden is responsible for Trump 2.0 in its entirety. He should have never run. He should have been more aggressive about pointing out who Trump was.
Actually yeah this might be right. You reminded me of the prime minister that Virginia Giuffre was too scared to name. The most violent rapist she had to endure. Do we have any idea who that was?
And larger than that, I think the real reason the cover up is ongoing is that the ring didn't stop after Epstein's death. I believe it's still very much active. Why else would they be continuing to murder the people involved?
This was brought up way back when. The issue with leaks is there's no way to verify them, and we don't want fake leaks. That would discredit any real release.
If you have a bunch of leaks mentioning people who couldn't possibly have been involved, it brings into question the validity of any other names mentioned.
Unfortunately, the problem now is that so much time has passed, that the originals have all been tampered with.
This was brought up way back when. The issue with leaks is there’s no way to verify them, and we don’t want fake leaks. That would discredit any real release.
Yes, it was brought up way back when. They gave a stupid bullshit reason way back then, as is their wont, today they continue to give stupid bullshit reasons; in the future, they will provide, you guessed it, more stupid bullshit reasons.
You know a good way to verify them?
Leak it. Then, you can check the leak vs. the files when they are eventually leaked. VIOLA
In fact, it's the ONLY way to verify them; the verification is provided by the public's investigation, NOT by the FBIs interpretation while sitting on the files. We've proven the government lies, always, countless times.
And recall, the files were old when Biden had them, no need to sit on them longer.
I'm just here for the loud exclamation of Viola (the string instrument), not voilà (global conspiracies eating away at us every day). Thank you for the laugh 😄
Why? Because those first things were the same political fanfare as always - explicitly done to drive public attention away from the real shit, like the Epstein Files.
The rich have very little shame, and will do almost anything to make their ends meet - but none of them want to be publically labelled as paedophiles, as that's essentially the end of their career. Even if their cronies would be fine with it behind closed doors, nobody wants that on their hands publically.
So comes the political issue of the day, like smoke and mirrors.
The trumpstein files. It is because a lot of rich people are on that list and being outted as a disgusting pedophile rapist PoS might be a negative. Might. Their trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal.
If we had a functioning government, they could say the longer you wait on releasing the names, the worse the punishment. I'm talking melting those pedos feet first. Alas no one listens to me...
Might get us off the internet and into a space to actually do something. I hear touching grass does great things for political movements. I wouldn't know though
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Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 2d
... and why did Biden sit on it for four years? Why didn't he use it to bring Trump down before the election?
Curious.
(yes, I know it was sealed. Release it anyway, come on, don't be silly, US government leaks every single day in spite of court orders)
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 2d
Democrats involved as well as Republicans, would be my guess. Maybe pressure from the UK not to Release more about Prince Andrew?
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2d
This is bigger than US Presidents or UK royal family. This is international finance, the people that get US Presidents elected, the people that Putin takes a call from.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 2d
Same reason they didn't prosecute Nixon. Liberals in congress don't have spines, they are doing similar things to a lesser degree, they believe in the false idea of political decorum, and they don't want to set a precedent. Ultimately they fear taking away power from the executive branch, because if you limit the conservatives then you also limit liberals.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2d
They aren't paid to, and justice isn't profitable
danc4498@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
I'm guessing he knew that anything incriminating against Trump would be written off as a witch hunt. So him releasing it would have been a waste. Now that Trump has refused to release them, if there is anything incriminating, I believe it would be taken much more seriously.
I'm guessing also he wasn't conscious for the entirety of his presidency, so who knows.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 2d
No its worse. Canada, Europe and a lot of shitty people are involved. You are led to believe this is localized to a few countries. Shit the entire G7 wouldve known about this. Theyre all rich child rapist protection agencies. Steve Harper definitely knew about this shitshow. Thats the real reason why. It would make a lot of countries look like pieces of shits protecting the Epstein class.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2d
Yes, the files weren't just Trump and Prince Andrew and other celebrities, but a lot of very wealthy people who aren't public figures, international puppeteers.
It's a lot of filthy rich people, probably the biggest scandal of our lifetime (and its still ongoing coverup)
How do I know? ... who else could keep this secret for over TWENTY YEARS? This is over Presidential level, this is as big as it gets on Earth.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
So? Let 'em burn. Anyone covering it up now is just as guilty and will burn when it finally comes out. wtf are they thinking?
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2d
So? They'll always say "witch hunt", fuck them. The files would speak for themselves.
Not a waste at all... in fact, the only waste is not releasing the files. Which he accomplished. Because he was worthless and/or perhaps nodded out and/or deranged.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
I don't disagree with part 2 at all. Biden is responsible for Trump 2.0 in its entirety. He should have never run. He should have been more aggressive about pointing out who Trump was.
Malica@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 2d
Israeli prime ministers in those files, can't embarrass those guys
searabbit@piefed.social · 3 pts · 2d
Actually yeah this might be right. You reminded me of the prime minister that Virginia Giuffre was too scared to name. The most violent rapist she had to endure. Do we have any idea who that was?
And larger than that, I think the real reason the cover up is ongoing is that the ring didn't stop after Epstein's death. I believe it's still very much active. Why else would they be continuing to murder the people involved?
coolie4@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
This was brought up way back when. The issue with leaks is there's no way to verify them, and we don't want fake leaks. That would discredit any real release.
If you have a bunch of leaks mentioning people who couldn't possibly have been involved, it brings into question the validity of any other names mentioned.
Unfortunately, the problem now is that so much time has passed, that the originals have all been tampered with.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2d
Yes, it was brought up way back when. They gave a stupid bullshit reason way back then, as is their wont, today they continue to give stupid bullshit reasons; in the future, they will provide, you guessed it, more stupid bullshit reasons.
You know a good way to verify them?
Leak it. Then, you can check the leak vs. the files when they are eventually leaked. VIOLA
In fact, it's the ONLY way to verify them; the verification is provided by the public's investigation, NOT by the FBIs interpretation while sitting on the files. We've proven the government lies, always, countless times.
And recall, the files were old when Biden had them, no need to sit on them longer.
dimeslime@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2d
I'm just here for the loud exclamation of Viola (the string instrument), not voilà (global conspiracies eating away at us every day). Thank you for the laugh 😄
shittydwarf@piefed.ca · 30 pts · 2d
Cause the POTUS raped those kids
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 2d
Anyone who pays attention already knows the answer. Republicans are above the law. Accountability is for the little people.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · -1 pts · 2d
It's not like the public saw any of it from the Biden administration. It's a ruler class thing.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2d
Oh that's easy. They implicate Israeli intelligence.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2d
*Trump Files
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 2d
Sorry, can't release 'em. If we did that, we'd lose our
attack dogmilitary allies.Th4tGuyII@fedia.io · 3 pts · 2d
Why? Because those first things were the same political fanfare as always - explicitly done to drive public attention away from the real shit, like the Epstein Files.
The rich have very little shame, and will do almost anything to make their ends meet - but none of them want to be publically labelled as paedophiles, as that's essentially the end of their career. Even if their cronies would be fine with it behind closed doors, nobody wants that on their hands publically.
So comes the political issue of the day, like smoke and mirrors.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
The trumpstein files. It is because a lot of rich people are on that list and being outted as a disgusting pedophile rapist PoS might be a negative. Might. Their trying to make it seem like it's not a big deal.
If we had a functioning government, they could say the longer you wait on releasing the names, the worse the punishment. I'm talking melting those pedos feet first. Alas no one listens to me...
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
I'm still waiting on Obama's birth certificate.
I KNOW some pedo stuff is up with that!
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2d
Trump is waiting for an offer to sell the complete files for cash money or gold tchotchkes. We just need an Ivanka clone to do the deal.
B1tch_Pudding@lemmy.zip · -14 pts · 2d
I'm certain begging and pleading to Epstein's associates with shitty reddit piss-text memes will cause something to happen.
yakko@feddit.uk · 19 pts · 2d
What's shutting up gonna do?
B1tch_Pudding@lemmy.zip · -9 pts · 2d
Might get us off the internet and into a space to actually do something. I hear touching grass does great things for political movements. I wouldn't know though
the_q@piefed.social · 6 pts · 2d
Apt username.
B1tch_Pudding@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 2d
ooOoh, catty
the_q@piefed.social · 1 pts · 2d
Strawberry Shortcake.