Why the Flock Backlash Has Gotten So Intense. The sudden anger about these cameras seems to reflect more than just wariness about the surveillance system.
https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/2026/09/behind-sudden-anger-flock-cameras/688491/
https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/2026/09/behind-sudden-anger-flock-cameras/688491/
41 Comments
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 130 pts · 17h
It reflects overall anger at a system that uses faceless, soulless tools of mass surveillance and oppression, EXPLICITLY to our detriment.
In practice, all this surveillance and tracking bullshit will NEVER be used to assist you. And they stole our fucking money to build the system while suppressing our wages
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 17h
They stole our content too.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 59 pts · 17h
Are you guys seeing this? In my locale I see no protests, bumper stickers, local news coverage, nothing. Just more and more cameras coming up. I used to drive by four, now drive by six on way to work.
18107@aussie.zone · 84 pts · 17h
"The revolution will not be televised." The people responsible for putting the cameras in will do everything they can to make you feel powerless and isolated, especially suppressing information about rebellions.
Rupet Murdock controls most TV stations, radio stations, newspapers, magazines, news websites, and "news" YouTube channels.
You will not see anything on the news about people organising or fighting back against the system he's worked so hard to create.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 16h
I'd pee myself with excitement if I saw one of these heavily vandalized. It's a good point you make though.
deranger@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 14h
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
A cheap harbor freight reciprocating saw with a good blade is all you need.
Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 14h
And know how to use one. I've seen a few videos now of people comparing cutting tools and using a reciprocating saw wrong. This is how to use one properly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fpKaYRjAvU
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 13h
This Halloween, deflock america. Masked up and out with power tools.
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 11h
I'd pee myself with excrement if I could mash it into some sort of putty to vandalize one of these.
CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 16h
The Flock cameras at my local Home Depot (which I like to call "Flock Depot") were cut right off of the poles a few weeks ago.
I live in the Puget Sound area though, where people are more willing to take some sort of action
h0tbeef@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 15h
Start chopping them down, or destroying them by some means
If you don’t already have the requisite equipment, be sure to leave the local area to purchase it, pay cash, and obscure your face (also make sure that they can’t track you to the store specifically, use a flock map, a bike might be more prudent than a car depending on the scenario.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 11 pts · 15h
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Halloween night is coming up: the one night of the year where it isn't suspicious at all to walk around with a full face mask. Put on a generic, common costume with a full face mask. Leave your phone at home (these things track nearby phones). Take down a camera or two yourself. Tell NOBODY what you did. It only takes a few people doing that in each town to bring down a massive number of cameras.
Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 16h
I’ve seen posters taped up under the cameras, but I also see more cameras.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4h
Have to ever been to a meeting of your local council? Have to gone door to door to talk to your neighbors about it? It took years of effort to remove them here.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 13h
I'm thankful there doesn't seem to be any in Canada yet so not really
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 13h
I've seen yard signs related to data center push back near me. It's anecdotal, but I've heard others speak about the cameras around here in negative ways (it was at a haircut!). It seems subdued, but I suspect there's much more on people's minds, they just aren't letting it be known.
JiveTurkey@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 15h
We're tired of all the bullshit in a system that seeks to bleed us dry at every turn.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 11h
I wish we’d seen the same outcry from the patriot act, flock is just a money grab, FT Meade already knows EVERYTHING about you
Nobody@anarchist.nexus · 23 pts · 15h
It’s the abundant precious metals that can be found in Flock cameras. Gold, copper, I’ve heard there might be diamonds in them. Only one way to find out.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4h
They've for as much platinum in them as a catalytic converter.
taiyang@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 12h
I thought it was interesting that even in the most rural parts of Cali, I saw anti-flock billboards up along the 99 this weekend. It's quite a unifying factor here.
tourist@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 7h
Here in South Africa, they're rolling out similar surveillance infrastructure.
Not as advanced as flock, but invasive enough. Protected by "but, crime". Backlash isn't widespread enough yet.
It's called Vumacam. Their CEO is literally called Richard Croock. Dick Crook is meant to help stop crime in South Africa. Fucking kak movie.
The country is going through a brutal energy crisis, but no, it's okay we can leave the cameras and the data processing centres on because they solve a negligible amount of crime, sometimes.
I can ramble on about this, but I just want to say, if it means anything, that I am proud of you Americans standing up to this bullshit. Sometimes using those things as literal target practice. Gives me hope in humanity.
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 5h
People can sense the system is rigged against them. They may blame different parties, policies, races, etc. But there is a lot of anger in the air. The US is quickly becoming a polarized powder keg more so than I can remember at any time in my life.
Flock cameras and AI are seen as tools of those whom they blame (rightfully so). It’s a rare physical manifestation of this rigged system that is pointed directly at you as you go about your life.
If we as a society were really against surveillance there would be a huge movement against Ring doorbells, microphones in TVs, our phones recording us, etc. But those devices are mundane and we interact with them. Which puts people at ease and placates the majority of people.
Flock has none of that, it’s a symbol of oppression from a system that wants to control us.
vinsombra@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 12h
I just feel like posting this completely unrelated story on every automated traffic camera thread, I can't understand why I feel this compulsion.
https://cybernews.com/editorial/israel-hacked-iran-traffic-cameras-us-war/
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4h
Leave up the cameras in DC!
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 7h
Awareness, the "I have nothing to hide" types slowly awakened (I used to be one of them), false arrests, etc.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h
They are not awake near me. They continue to beleive there's a tangible benefit to safety.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 13h
They are mostly coming down in my wider area, though some towns looking to replace with something else.
Nearby bigger more toursty town just put them up and everyone is super pissed.
Also have found some in the middle of nowhere, like next to farm fields on relatively busy country roads that have minimal incidents. What justification they can come up with other than just tracking people, who knows, but at best its lazy law enforcement for traffic, so still not popular. And very obviously new.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4h
Fun fact you should share with everyone, there's as much platinum in a flock camera as there is in a catalytic converter.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 2h
And they also have RAM which is now hella expensive because of the race for AI.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h
The RAM is soldered to the board. If you've got the tools and skills to get it off the device and onto another device, you're making enough money that you don't need to worry about the price of RAM.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2h
No no, it's just PC ram sticks, easily removable and easy to resell. Tell everyone. The first one may not be that way so you may have to cut down and bust open several to find it.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h
Better to mention that each device has a Bitcoin in it. Which is about 80k right now.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2h
One does have a bitcoin in it, Flock won't say which one or where they put it though.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 3 pts · 11h
the new meaning of the abbr. WTF
🙂
Amoxtli@thelemmy.club · -41 pts · 16h
The criminals don't want to be surveilled in public places. They want to get away with murder.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 15h
Fuck off
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 14h
How do them boots taste, peon?
FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 15h
To be this fearful of false narratives is to be anti-American imo.
Sibshops@feddit.cl · 5 pts · 12h
If it really is just about catching criminals they should make the streams public. They won't because it becomes obvious why it's an issue.
1984@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 11h
Get out of here man, lol.