If he sided with Macklemore and kraft forbade the tour, his entire management team would have been more than capable of using this enormous amount of publicity to refund tickets, sell new ones for a free Palestine tour for more money, more dates.
He really dropped the ball by simping for a billionaire.
How so? I assume you watched a clip from his last special, out of context, which was intentionally designed to be misunderstood when out of context?
Edit: My comment is on the segment of his last special, where he is very clearly pro Palestine. However, if you remove the leading context, it sounds very much pro Israel. There are also more than a few clips circulating without that context.
chappelle's always been a sellout. he got fired from his show because he wanted a ridiculous amount more money and they said no, so he hid from everyone until enough people forgot about that and tried to do standup again. only he hadn't kept up since the 80s so it was bill cosby style standup.
I think he could have worked with smaller venues and had more dates. Based on the reactions right now, the free publicity looks like it might have been a boon to ticket sales.
You don't seem to have a good grasp on what ppl support through history. 1/3 of America supports a Republican party filled with rapists, child molesters, sex traffickers, theives, con men, habitually liars, narcissists, sadists and everything in between. Obedience through suffering is their entire life strategy. 1/3 of America supports them.
If money is what they pursue, the literally best choice would be just not say anything and let Macklemore to speak up for Palestine. People would continue to attend events, money would continue to pour.
Whole business model ruined because of someone's poor ass being too sissy about political stance of one of the musicians.
I am sad that "Beoga" has cancelled their small venue concert in Boston. I went looking for tickets when I noticed the play date on their YouTube channel.
He probably just did what most ppl do already and listened to the opinions of whoever around him he trusts on these issues. Celebrities are not advocates, politicians, or activists, those who got bad advice are gonna get fucked by the mob.
You're right. If you had $400M and your boss asked you to stand up for genocide or you wouldn't get paid that week would you do it? Cause that's literally what this is . Guy is obscenely wealthy. Him not only not using his power to help others but actively fighting for the oppressor is not 'being neutral'. You want to hoard wealth? While claiming to be an artist? Gotta know there's a good chance at some point someone's gonna call you out
Assuming it was even brought up with anyone else. For all we know he wasn't even the one deciding or in the loop on it. Y'all are so rabid with your hatred because you can they to the thing you hate.
His own statement told us everything we needed to know. To be clear, Sheeran isn't the only one to blame, but unfortunately as the lead act and poster child of the tour, he's going to get the brunt of it.
Not a single other artist had any problem leaving the tour.
Why is everyone hating on Sheeran? Sure his decision is disappointing but I 100% believe him when he says he was pressured by Kraft and management to do this and had to decide and the support acts also don't seem to be bitter about Ed Sheeran, they seem to just make a statement.
I really don't like how Ed Sheeran is getting all the hate. I think Kraft should be the one to get the full shitstorm for this. All of this was 95% his doing, Ed Sheeran just folded.
Because people with absolutely nothing to lose are always the Bravest Boys.
It's very easy to loudly proclaim how incredibly strong and moral your actions are when absolutely nobody on Earth gives a fuck about them, and gives you a tremendous perch atop the moral highground to accuse others of heresy.
Oh! Won't someone think of the rich people? They get only the best help money can afford. Lucky for them they have you to defend them. So noble. You're a paragon on virtue.
51 Comments
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 123 pts · 1d
He could have picked the right side. Still would have ended the tour, but at least he'd have been on the right side.
foggy@lemmy.world · 133 pts · 1d
If he sided with Macklemore and kraft forbade the tour, his entire management team would have been more than capable of using this enormous amount of publicity to refund tickets, sell new ones for a free Palestine tour for more money, more dates.
He really dropped the ball by simping for a billionaire.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 1d
Just like Dave Chappelle. Total sell out.
okamiueru@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 1d
How so? I assume you watched a clip from his last special, out of context, which was intentionally designed to be misunderstood when out of context?
Edit: My comment is on the segment of his last special, where he is very clearly pro Palestine. However, if you remove the leading context, it sounds very much pro Israel. There are also more than a few clips circulating without that context.
postcapitalism@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 1d
He comes across as a total trans-phobe to the point it isn’t even funny and simps for Elon Musk
okamiueru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
I thought we were talking about his stance on Palestine and Israel.
postcapitalism@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 21h
No worries I think we were talking around each other then
I was referencing the comment you replied to about why he is a “sell out”
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
chappelle's always been a sellout. he got fired from his show because he wanted a ridiculous amount more money and they said no, so he hid from everyone until enough people forgot about that and tried to do standup again. only he hadn't kept up since the 80s so it was bill cosby style standup.
DredPyr8Roberts@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 1d
I think he could have worked with smaller venues and had more dates. Based on the reactions right now, the free publicity looks like it might have been a boon to ticket sales.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1d
I wish he picked the right side and I have hope that he'll muster the courage to join it soon.
nil@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 1d
Well, he's on the right...
auzy1@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 1d
Watch him now push into maga territory to try to sell them....
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1d
That would be an interesting pr move.
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 1d
He could do a cover of that AI “we are Charlie Kirk” song as his encore !
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 32 pts · 1d
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social · 5 pts · 1d
It’s beautiful.
huquad@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 21h
That feel when you get a crick in your neck
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 1d
Ed Sheeran country?
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Damn, I thought country music had already reached the bottom.
4am@lemmy.zip · 52 pts · 1d
$65 is how much concert tickets should cost anyway
reader@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 1d
no. it should be much cheaper.
Amuro_eat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1d
You have to use the Fugazi formula for the most accurate price
Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 1d
No one respects genocide supporters.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 1d
You don't seem to have a good grasp on what ppl support through history. 1/3 of America supports a Republican party filled with rapists, child molesters, sex traffickers, theives, con men, habitually liars, narcissists, sadists and everything in between. Obedience through suffering is their entire life strategy. 1/3 of America supports them.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
First-past-the-post gives one third of the population the chance to reach full legislative control.
Most americans supported Israel until more recently. Propaganda is one hell of a drug.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1d
He's such a piece of shit tickets to see him are now reasonably priced.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 1d
I feel bad for those who bought tickets before this shitshow. Even if you intended to sell them off as a "fuck you" to Ed, you'd be stuck with them.
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 1d
I can't imagine how one can screw up this bad.
If money is what they pursue, the literally best choice would be just not say anything and let Macklemore to speak up for Palestine. People would continue to attend events, money would continue to pour.
Whole business model ruined because of someone's poor ass being too sissy about political stance of one of the musicians.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 22h
Kraft wouldn't let them play venues. He's not poor, he's super rich and loves Israel.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it · 3 pts · 19h
I understand that the logistics of Ed Sheeran's tour cannot be scaled down quickly, but I doubt they wouldn't have found other venues.
A single gig with a barebone stage and nothing else would have been enough to tell Kraft to fuck off.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
Good, hope they lose a ton of $$. Fuck Ed.
I am sad that "Beoga" has cancelled their small venue concert in Boston. I went looking for tickets when I noticed the play date on their YouTube channel.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
I thought he ended up canceling the rest of the tour?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
Fucking lol
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -15 pts · 1d
How many entertainment careers have been ruined mixing politics with music?
Zink@programming.dev · 12 pts · 23h
Probably less than the number of entertainment careers that have been created by mixing politics with music.
mbp@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 19h
Are we actually lamenting the idea of Ed Sheeran getting fucked? The guy has never made a decent song in his decade long career.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -18 pts · 1d
He probably just did what most ppl do already and listened to the opinions of whoever around him he trusts on these issues. Celebrities are not advocates, politicians, or activists, those who got bad advice are gonna get fucked by the mob.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1d
If your boss at work told you to pledge allegiance to the Nazi party, and you do it, who's to blame?
Ed had every ability to take the right side of this and HE chose not to.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 1d
That's a false equivalent.
itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 22h
You're right. If you had $400M and your boss asked you to stand up for genocide or you wouldn't get paid that week would you do it? Cause that's literally what this is . Guy is obscenely wealthy. Him not only not using his power to help others but actively fighting for the oppressor is not 'being neutral'. You want to hoard wealth? While claiming to be an artist? Gotta know there's a good chance at some point someone's gonna call you out
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 19h
Not fighting against isn't fighting for. With us or against us is a false equivalent.
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 1d
I guess not a single person he trusts on these issues had a problem with genocide then.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 1d
Assuming it was even brought up with anyone else. For all we know he wasn't even the one deciding or in the loop on it. Y'all are so rabid with your hatred because you can they to the thing you hate.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1d
His own statement told us everything we needed to know. To be clear, Sheeran isn't the only one to blame, but unfortunately as the lead act and poster child of the tour, he's going to get the brunt of it.
Not a single other artist had any problem leaving the tour.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world · -33 pts · 1d
Why is everyone hating on Sheeran? Sure his decision is disappointing but I 100% believe him when he says he was pressured by Kraft and management to do this and had to decide and the support acts also don't seem to be bitter about Ed Sheeran, they seem to just make a statement.
I really don't like how Ed Sheeran is getting all the hate. I think Kraft should be the one to get the full shitstorm for this. All of this was 95% his doing, Ed Sheeran just folded.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1d
The end of your post answers the beginning:
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
https://www.crmvet.org/docs/mlk-viet.htm
Perhaps you should read more then to understand.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 23h
The tour's got his name on it, and he did not have the back of one of the touring acts
Yes exactly. That's why he's getting shit.
timochka@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 23h
Because people with absolutely nothing to lose are always the Bravest Boys.
It's very easy to loudly proclaim how incredibly strong and moral your actions are when absolutely nobody on Earth gives a fuck about them, and gives you a tremendous perch atop the moral highground to accuse others of heresy.
Krumm@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21h
Tis the price of fame and money.
Oh! Won't someone think of the rich people? They get only the best help money can afford. Lucky for them they have you to defend them. So noble. You're a paragon on virtue.
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1d
If he had backbone, he would have pushed back and don't let Kraft decide for him.