The Tesla Cybertruck is estimated to get about 2.4 miles per kWh, or 415 watts per mile. In comparison, a Tesla Model 3 gets about 3.4 miles per kWh, or 290 watts per mile.
That's a lot. Looked up numbers for high-speed rail: for passangers minimum is 29Wh/km/sest in Japan and maximum is 41Wh/km/seat for Eurostar, for freight it's between 315Wh/km/t and 525Wh/km/t. Again, this is for high-speed rail at least 300km/h. For slow speed train(for example 90km/h) this will go much, much lower. Probably something between 30 and 100Wh/km/t.
The way it's been thrown around here, I would disagree with the fact that there's anybody that disagrees with you that is not a fascist. That's the definition these days. Someone that disagrees with you: fascist.
Nope, that is not how it works. Take a look to Elon's Twitter account and if you still think in the same way it is probably because you are a fascist also.
I'm saying that nothing I've seen from him implies that he is a fascist. Claiming he is a fascist is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. If you cannot provide such evidence then I will dismiss it.
Hey now, they could be dumb and a fascist, we just don't have enough data yet. Sure, being a musk fanboy indicates it, but we have yet to hear their opinion on anything else.
The word has lost all meaning. Everything is "fascism" now. If you disagree with what I wrote, explain fascism in your own words and why you think such an individual qualifies. Show us.
Yes, I'm familiar with Eco's explanation. I want the people in this thread to walk us from Mussolini to Musk. Because as far as I can tell, anything in online discourse has shown that fascism just means something I don't like.
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BB69@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 2y
EVs suddenly don’t get good fuel economy?
PugJesus@kbin.social · 28 pts · 2y
I mean, with EVs, you compare the economy to other EVs.
BB69@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 2y
Well… we don’t have info… so…
PugJesus@kbin.social · 30 pts · 2y
BB69@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
That’s an estimate.
Even so, that’s better than the F150 Lightning (1.9 mi/kWh) and the Rivian R1T (1.81 mi/kWh)
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y
So we're saying it does get good fuel economy?
BB69@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
For an electric truck, (that’s not in public hands for testing, so we’re guessing) yes, it’s like 25% more efficient than the competitors.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 2y
Yes it's not bad... the Rivian gets about 2.1 miles/kwhr
Although you could definitely design a smaller, more efficient EV truck.
Hey, like this one!
https://electrek.co/2023/05/19/ayro-vanish-electric-mini-truck-opens-pre-orders/
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
That's what my Chevy bolt gets on the highway in winter.
Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz · 22 pts · 2y
The cybertruck would use, according to at least one estimate, about 350 Wh/km, which puts it as the least efficient EV (including an old source). Compares to about an F-150 Lightning.
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 2y
The Hummer has 419 Wh/km, or worse, so even with that estimate it wouldn't be the worst.
Metanoia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Man I need those numbers converted to mi/kwh
sysadmin420@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Satoshis per yard/h
joel_feila@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
1.78 mi/kwh
Metanoia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Darn that's less than half of what I get
uis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
That's a lot. Looked up numbers for high-speed rail: for passangers minimum is 29Wh/km/sest in Japan and maximum is 41Wh/km/seat for Eurostar, for freight it's between 315Wh/km/t and 525Wh/km/t. Again, this is for high-speed rail at least 300km/h. For slow speed train(for example 90km/h) this will go much, much lower. Probably something between 30 and 100Wh/km/t.
StarkillerX42@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 2y
If it's a new car, then it's less efficient than your old car. This is still true (or possibly even more true) for electric cars.
overat8@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 2y
Does T-14 have a glass window that supposedly bulletproof?
PugJesus@kbin.social · 38 pts · 2y
Yes but please don't let a weedy exec tap it lightly with a hammer
Steeve@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 2y
I think the cybertruck looks cool but I'm also really into N64 graphics
blazeknave@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
FX chip! Starfox!
Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
This meme fucking rocks
PugJesus@kbin.social · 11 pts · 2y
Wish I could claim credit, but I stole it from Old NCD
crackajack@reddthat.com · 13 pts · 2y
T-14 is still pretty cool. I'd like to see it blown up!
PugJesus@kbin.social · 6 pts · 2y
Let's see if it's a better competitor at the Turret Toss Championship!
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
The check should actually get really good mpge, particularly compared to a tank.
uis@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
Doesn't look like captured during WW2 tank, so no on bottom-right.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -91 pts · 2y
Elon Musk is a fascist now? Is there anyone you disagree with that isn't a fascist? Are you 14?
SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world · 97 pts · 2y
Yes. Yes. No.
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 2y
Elegant in its simplicity.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -55 pts · 2y
The way it's been thrown around here, I would disagree with the fact that there's anybody that disagrees with you that is not a fascist. That's the definition these days. Someone that disagrees with you: fascist.
krasny@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 2y
Nope, that is not how it works. Take a look to Elon's Twitter account and if you still think in the same way it is probably because you are a fascist also.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee · 18 pts · 2y
I disagree with you, Elon has made it pretty apparent that he believes in authoritarian rule. Do you remember his coup tweet?
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -14 pts · 2y
No. I don't go on Twitter. It's a garbage pile.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y
So you have no idea about his behaviour and his general support for authoritarian bullshit but you're here defending him anyway.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 2y
I'm saying that nothing I've seen from him implies that he is a fascist. Claiming he is a fascist is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. If you cannot provide such evidence then I will dismiss it.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
You'd have to go on Twitter to get the evidence, so you'll dismiss it.
verity_kindle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
That's fair enough.
h3mlocke@lemm.ee · 0 pts · 2y
Rotten_potato@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y
Ah I see. So you don't think he's a fascist mainly because you're uninformed. Hard to help you there.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 2y
Go ahead. Show me where he's a fascist on Twitter. I'm not the one making an extraordinary claim.
SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y
I disagree. I also don't think you're a fascist, just dumb. So I can disagree with someone without thinking they're a fascist, so you're wrong.
NotBillMurray@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Hey now, they could be dumb and a fascist, we just don't have enough data yet. Sure, being a musk fanboy indicates it, but we have yet to hear their opinion on anything else.
cacheson@kbin.social · 12 pts · 2y
How to identify fascism
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -26 pts · 2y
Just so you know, that's a worthless metric.
cacheson@kbin.social · 20 pts · 2y
Thank you for your very valuable opinion.
Eheran@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 2y
Those points are really not the right tool. I agree with you on that one.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 2y
It's kind of like a political Rorschach test. You see what you want to see.
1847953620@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I'm rubber you're glue
cacheson@kbin.social · 19 pts · 2y
Are you T-14?
Hathaway@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2y
makar94@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 2y
Decent meme, but the fuel economy could be infinite, if you charge it with solar, wind or hydro. It's electric, not gas
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
'Charge economy' doesn't have the same ring.
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
Well someone forgot to account for the heat death of the universe, smh
Eheran@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2y
It would still be economically worse if it takes 2x longer for the same range.
TheFonz@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 2y
The word has lost all meaning. Everything is "fascism" now. If you disagree with what I wrote, explain fascism in your own words and why you think such an individual qualifies. Show us.
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
Hello TheFonz,
thank you so much for your post on the lemmy! :)
This is actually a misunderstanding. Not everything is fascism! The fascists trying to take over the US and Europe at the moment are fascist.
I hope this post helped clear things up for you. Have a great day.
Sincerely
trashgirlfriend
TheFonz@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 2y
That's what I thought. You only have downvotes and you have no idea what the word means. Stay true to your nature, Lemmy.
TheFonz@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y
Explain fascism in your own words
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
It's linked in this thread guy
TheFonz@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
Yes, I'm familiar with Eco's explanation. I want the people in this thread to walk us from Mussolini to Musk. Because as far as I can tell, anything in online discourse has shown that fascism just means something I don't like.
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 2y
Supporting authoritarian right wing politicians using his business ties don't count?