Brave responds to Bing and ChatGPT with a new “anonymous and secure” AI chatbot

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/2/23943193/brave-leo-ai-assistant-chatbot-release-date-price

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nobleshift@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 2y (11 replies)
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AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y

They never really had any to begin with.

burliman@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y (9 replies)

Why is that?

Fades@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 2y (7 replies)

Chromium based in addition to Brave pushing things with no way to opt out

Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 2y (6 replies)

Plus pushing Crypto nonsense, shady changes to links, and donating to anti-LGBT causes.

EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Wait fr Damn the crypto was weird But anti-LQBT is hella shit

Now I feel shit for even recommending the browser in the past

noodlejetski@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y (2 replies)

the very reason Brave exists is Brendan Eich, its founder, being fired from Mozilla for donating to anti-LGBT groups.

ZeroCool@feddit.ch · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)
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noodlejetski@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y

bbhh

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y

Ecosia

niisyth@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 2y

Never had any trust on em due to the former reasons but I didn't even know about the last part. Glad I always side eyed them with suspicion.

Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 2y

Adding this to the pile: CEO wants brave to be an ad platform. He doesnt want to challenge power beyond gaining it for himself.

jmd_akbar@aussie.zone · 53 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Yea... That's a "No" from me dawg...

I have a very bad feeling it will start to harvest your local data...

jet@hackertalks.com · 12 pts · 2y

I'm trying to reconcile anonymous and you must use our app.

I know there's nothing explicitly deanonymizing about their browser... And the browser has built-in tor support... It just doesn't feel anonymous when it's restricted to a specific application.. because the application must identify itself somehow.

const_void@lemmy.ml · 35 pts · 2y

Brave is a really shady company. I don't trust them any more than the others.

Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 30 pts · 2y

Yeah, "anonymous" and "secure" aren't words I associate with Brave...

EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Idk brave has alot of trust me bro vibes

And that's kind of off putting And I used to be hard on the brave train

But now I'm with the more recent trend of "Chrome -> Brave -> Firefox" pipeline

kzhe@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y

And the homophobia

Pika@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y (3 replies)

why is chrome first if you don't mind me asking, I am curious, I have always concidered chrome to be a less private brave and Firefox to be at the top of the list in terms of privacy, unless the list was going fron least to greatest

kzhe@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y

No, they first were a Chrome user then turned to Brave before finding firefox

shotgun_crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I think it's like a train, they went from Chrome to Brave to Firefox

Pika@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y

ooo ok!

jet@hackertalks.com · 18 pts · 2y

If the free version is there to encourage you to use the premium version, how can it be anonymous?

bionicjoey@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 2y

BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y (1 reply)

So they're using Claude for the premium tier? How do they know that none of that data is being collected by Anthropic? They have no control over it.

remer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

They said anonymous, not that they would record everything

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 2y

“Anonymous and secure”

Lmao.

mojo@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Just a reminder that services charging a monthly fee do not automatically mean they're private. Anyways, just use venus chub ai instead 🤫

uranibaba@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

It you want images, there is also civitai.

applejacks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y (4 replies)

is it as locked down and censored as Bing and CGPT are?

DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Bing image creator literally flagged "Ronald McDonald" as an unsafe image prompt lmao

applejacks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

I have Photoshop with the generative AI options.

It's almost impossible to get it to work with anything peach to brown shaded, because it (presumably) thinks I'm doing something NSFW.

Engywuck@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y

Hopefully not. Waiting for the update.

ZeroCool@feddit.ch · 6 pts · 2y

Brave

lol pass

autotldr@lemmings.world · 5 pts · 2y

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The core features of Leo aren’t too dissimilar from other AI chatbots like Bing Chat and Google Bard: it can translate, answer questions, summarize webpages, and generate new content.

Brave says the benefits of Leo over those offerings are that it aligns with the company’s focus on privacy — conversations with the chatbot are not recorded or used to train AI models, and no login information is required to use it.

As with other AI chatbots, however, Brave claims Leo’s outputs should be “treated with care for potential inaccuracies or errors.”

For users who prefer to access a different AI language model, Brave is also introducing Leo Premium, a $15 monthly subscription that features Anthropic’s AI assistant, Claude Instant — a faster and cheaper version of Anthropic’s Claude 2 large language model.

“AI can be a powerful tool but it can also present growing concerns for data privacy and there’s a need for a privacy-first solution,” said Brian Bondy, CTO and co-founder of Brave, in a press release.

We have reached out to Brave to clarify when these additional benefits are expected to arrive and will update this story should we hear back.


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Roundcat@kbin.social · 4 pts · 2y

All they need now is to promise VR and self driving cars, and they'll have a hype-tech bingo.

Whayle@kbin.social · 3 pts · 2y

Pushing "machine learning" as "beneficial AI" appears to be a ploy to build profiles of everyone using all the data that can possibly be gathered up about them. The claims will be for better ads and better experiences, but the reality will be something quite different.

not_a_bot_i_swear@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
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ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 2y (3 replies)

What else to use on iPhone/IOS alternatives browser to avoid (block) YouTube ads?

Currently using Brave browser as it is one of the few that block ads and has the highly quality video (1080P-2160P).

But with all the mess that’s going on, I want to get away from it.

kzhe@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Yattee if you're willing to switch to a Piped account (requires some setup), I think there's jailbreaking stuff, Firefox Focus

ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2y

Thanks, I’ll look into it

Eggyhead@artemis.camp · 1 pts · 2y

I’m just using Safari with the Vinegar extension.