"We built this consumer focused device and included a function that allows them to run Linux. Supporting it doesn't add to our revenue, but maybe someone will like it! "
I'm not defending them removing the functionality and I agree it was sold with a feature, that should have been supported. I just think we didn't see the Other OS option continue through the generations because the hardware's price point was taken advantage of.
Sony could have imposed a fee to unlock Other OS, but I don't think anyone would have felt better shelling out an additional $400 to use it. Situation becomes then home customer gets no value from it, businesses are no longer incentivized to buy playstations, and Sony has to continue supporting this thing that few people are paying to access.
Okay well you go try convince the general public to pay $1000 ($1700 today) for a toy. Your primary competitor is using games to subsidize their hardware too at $300 but completely locked and unable to perform general computing. Good luck.
Selling products as loss leaders is not some absurd esoteric strategy, and it was quite normal for consoles to be subsidized with that exact goal. They needed systems affordable enough to get into homes, otherwise there's no user base. No user base means no opportunity for game sales. No game sales, and it ends up as the Dreamcast.
So it starts to sound like their big mistake was ever allowing Linux and general computing to begin with? Sony were the only ones doing that even while the competition was an actual x86 machine running some form of Windows. Users still had to buy a PC to use office.
Companies (and governments) saw an opportunity for cheap computers that outperformed traditional servers and took advantage of it. Now no one gets Linux.
Are you arguing the PS3 should have released at $1000 when everyone thought $600 was already laughably astronomically high? Or would you have preferred an underspec system?
Evil is a bit strong, but they're selling the console with the expectation they'll make up more in games sales, yes it kind of jams up the business plan.
Blame the organizations that built out PS3 server farms just for crunching numbers.
Edit- Aight y'all throughly convinced me it was actually Sony that screwed up linux capability for everyone by trying to subsidize their hardware. And actually those unrelated businesses were very smart to take advantage of sony's pricing. If the PS3 released at $1000+, it definitely would have sold much better and we'd have a linux-desktop only PS6. No more need for additional replies thanks.
Check out Robot Rumble 2! It's admittedly rougher to onboard and lacks tutorials, but it's modern and has a pretty solid bot builder. Once it clicks, it really opens up. And it's free.
My cats also loves ice cubes. It's a bit of a tradition at this point, any time I get a beverage I have to give one in their bowl.
They don't do much with it but an occasional lick and watch it melt but they'll purr and stay put until it's gone. I like it, I think it lets them feel included.
Horrible... Rip.
Chicken wings is like 6pc for $10 and I didn't smash enough of them when they were a quarter each, sadge
Couldn't be, there's protein on the plate
I use burn my windows and desktop cube with Gnome extensions. Kwin still supports many of these effects too. It's fun to see people's reaction.
Heard loud and clear, the next console will cost $1,350 and won't include a controller, but you'll be able to load linux on it. Now everyone's happy!
"We built this consumer focused device and included a function that allows them to run Linux. Supporting it doesn't add to our revenue, but maybe someone will like it! "
The US Government buys 1,700 Playstations and builds a supercomputer for 5-10% of the cost of an equivalent system
"Wtf wait why are we supporting linux we're losing so much money"
Annddd this is partly why we can't have nice things. Geohot hacking through the hypervisor is the other part.
I'm not defending them removing the functionality and I agree it was sold with a feature, that should have been supported. I just think we didn't see the Other OS option continue through the generations because the hardware's price point was taken advantage of.
Sony could have imposed a fee to unlock Other OS, but I don't think anyone would have felt better shelling out an additional $400 to use it. Situation becomes then home customer gets no value from it, businesses are no longer incentivized to buy playstations, and Sony has to continue supporting this thing that few people are paying to access.
Okay well you go try convince the general public to pay $1000 ($1700 today) for a toy. Your primary competitor is using games to subsidize their hardware too at $300 but completely locked and unable to perform general computing. Good luck.
Selling products as loss leaders is not some absurd esoteric strategy, and it was quite normal for consoles to be subsidized with that exact goal. They needed systems affordable enough to get into homes, otherwise there's no user base. No user base means no opportunity for game sales. No game sales, and it ends up as the Dreamcast.
So it starts to sound like their big mistake was ever allowing Linux and general computing to begin with? Sony were the only ones doing that even while the competition was an actual x86 machine running some form of Windows. Users still had to buy a PC to use office.
Companies (and governments) saw an opportunity for cheap computers that outperformed traditional servers and took advantage of it. Now no one gets Linux.
Are you arguing the PS3 should have released at $1000 when everyone thought $600 was already laughably astronomically high? Or would you have preferred an underspec system?
Evil is a bit strong, but they're selling the console with the expectation they'll make up more in games sales, yes it kind of jams up the business plan.
Blame the organizations that built out PS3 server farms just for crunching numbers.
Edit- Aight y'all throughly convinced me it was actually Sony that screwed up linux capability for everyone by trying to subsidize their hardware. And actually those unrelated businesses were very smart to take advantage of sony's pricing. If the PS3 released at $1000+, it definitely would have sold much better and we'd have a linux-desktop only PS6. No more need for additional replies thanks.
Check out Robot Rumble 2! It's admittedly rougher to onboard and lacks tutorials, but it's modern and has a pretty solid bot builder. Once it clicks, it really opens up. And it's free.
You got it. Has to be.
My cats also loves ice cubes. It's a bit of a tradition at this point, any time I get a beverage I have to give one in their bowl.
They don't do much with it but an occasional lick and watch it melt but they'll purr and stay put until it's gone. I like it, I think it lets them feel included.
Using CIA's own tactics against western interests to secure a better future for oppressed people? Believe it or not - straight to jail.
This is the most sloppified of sloppy design. I rate it 0/10 not real.
The frame with a small handle is a beautiful touch. It grounds itself as a timeless design
There was no shooting at ships or tolls until king dipshit and his israeli friends started bombing schools