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This can easily backfire, though. The fascist will rarely start the debate by glorifying the Third Reich. Instead, he will start off by lamenting the state of the working class, or complain about foreign policy, and only progressively reveal his true agenda. Showing contempt for him at this stage could be interpreted as contempt for these issues.

What the fascist attempts to do in these debates is to acquire legitimacy, since their political position sits outside the overton window. Using logical fallacies against him is to basically hand him that legitimacy for free by making him appear "reasonable". The easiest solution to all this is not to debate them at all.

Usually, if you want enrich yourself or your friends, you'd want to create a climate favorable to economic growth and skim little off the top of that using the usual corruption methods. You don't want to start a multitude of trade or literal wars that threaten the global economy.

If it wasn't for Trump being the cause of this, you'd almost think this collapse is intentional...

Quick guilty verdict? That’s not a presumption of innocence.

Just a quick verdict. Usually most of the time of the prosecutor is spent building the case, but here the abundance of evidence means he won't have to.

Should some court in Europe have jurisdiction over the world? It’s it even a legal system when it’s motivated by politics?

The ICC (it's this one that does the prosecution) bases its rulings on the basis of the UDHR. Since no UN member ever made opposition to it, and practically all nations are UN members, it has worldwide jurisdiction to remind the UN members of their obligations.

Also Netanyahu isn’t going to be arrested. The ICJ doesn’t have an army to enforce their decrees on parts of the world that don’t recognise their legitimacy.

Probably correct, but we never know. Nations that enforce international law, like Canada, could possibly make an arrest on behalf of the ICC. It may also just be the case the Israel itself may hand him over if he is ever impeached there.

Issuing these kinds of orders only hurt is legitimacy (don’t issue orders that won’t be followed!)

That's an appeal to force type of argument. These orders should be issued based on whether they are legal or illegal, not whether they will be followed or enforced.

on Capitaleftism · c/whitepeopletwitter · 1 pts · 58d

But you can still have money without capitalism.

All major organized society from the 20th century onwards used some form of currency, be it fascist, liberal or socialist. This isn't really debated.

on Capitaleftism · c/whitepeopletwitter · 3 pts · 58d

You can be pro-capitalism in some form and still be on the left wing of politics.

Pro capitalist and socially progressive is just called liberal.

The problem here is that part of the left deny that liberals are on the left.

on Capitaleftism · c/whitepeopletwitter · 1 pts · 58d

It's more of a problem of having no base definitions on which everyone agrees upon. So anything goes and no one ends up knowing what they're talking about.