and was nearly identical to its predecessor which was signed by clinton with strong bipartisan support from congress. nafta's origins date back to reagan's campaign and his call for a north american free trade zone ~ 1979
Yeah but they have to time it right to pull off what they’re shooing for, like the “slingshot” maneuver for you space movie fans, or the “Shake and Bake” from Talladega Nights, for those of you more at my speed. (NPI)
NAFTA may have helped Canada grow economically but only if we stayed under the thumb of the US and jumped every hoop when asked. Trump just took it up a notch with USMCA and now wants Canada to be completely subservient. It may hurt in the short term but it is time for the US to become 'just another country' and for Canada to continue to pivot away from them in every way.
During his first term, Trump negotiated and heavily praised the USMCA as a superior alternative to the "disastrous" North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which he said had offshored US jobs, among other problems.
It was a slightly tweaked NAFTA with a new name, but he wanted votes from people who were opposed to NAFTA, so we got a lot of political theater.
Don't think so. Not in the foreseeable future. But we can start trading with more friction and therefore do more to protect important sectors. The increased friction would increase the need for doing more ourselves, as well as trade with non-US countries.
Yeah but a new administration can just sign it again. Having this long cool down forces it to pass through multiple administrations so it has to be agreed upon long term to end it.
Kind of like corporate DEI, I think NAFTA was generally bad (well I don't think DEI was bad but it was generally half-assed), but now it's been forced on Mexican & Canadian economies removing it will be worse.
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Nautalax@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 52d
This is so tiresome
DisgruntledPelican@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 52d
Yup demential pedo fascist president will surely negotiate a fair deal with Canada and Mexico. I am sure it will go well.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 52d
The funny thing is that the USMCA was negotiated by Trump to replace NAFTA during his first term.
adarza@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 51d
and was nearly identical to its predecessor which was signed by clinton with strong bipartisan support from congress. nafta's origins date back to reagan's campaign and his call for a north american free trade zone ~ 1979
shweddy@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 52d
If this mother fucker ends up giving away 300B again I swear to god
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 52d
Good point, as a Canadian I look forward to ending up with a better deal for us in the end.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
Hope you like planes from the middle east. I hear he's trying to unload one
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
We'll take it
nightwatch_admin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
God: “It’s ok buddy, I won’t hold this against you. I just wish I had someone to swear to myself for once.”
Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 52d
All you got to do is pull a 1814 again
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 51d
They are deliberately crashing the economy to allow the fascists to buy up the rest of society and privatize everything
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 51d
Have been for years
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 51d
Yeah but they have to time it right to pull off what they’re shooing for, like the “slingshot” maneuver for you space movie fans, or the “Shake and Bake” from Talladega Nights, for those of you more at my speed. (NPI)
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 51d
Get fucked US. We are moving on.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 52d
NAFTA may have helped Canada grow economically but only if we stayed under the thumb of the US and jumped every hoop when asked. Trump just took it up a notch with USMCA and now wants Canada to be completely subservient. It may hurt in the short term but it is time for the US to become 'just another country' and for Canada to continue to pivot away from them in every way.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 51d
We're going to need to improve our deep water ports and the rail lines. Especially the rail. Ive heard that Churchill may seen some major expansion.
tal@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 52d
It was a slightly tweaked NAFTA with a new name, but he wanted votes from people who were opposed to NAFTA, so we got a lot of political theater.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 51d
similarly to whats happening in Iran, except that's amuck worse deal then the one he denigrated.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 16 pts · 52d
THE SHART OF THE DEAL
decended_being@midwest.social · 16 pts · 51d
What? The agreement he made after blowing up NAFTA?
Wtf dude
cornshark@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 51d
Yeah turns out that agreement was signed by an imbecile
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 52d
Bad deal, terrible, who wrote this shit, the worst!
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 51d
This is not bad for us. Happy Canada D'eh!
Killer57@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 51d
Is it possible that we just stop trading with the US, can we make that happen?
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 51d
Don't think so. Not in the foreseeable future. But we can start trading with more friction and therefore do more to protect important sectors. The increased friction would increase the need for doing more ourselves, as well as trade with non-US countries.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 51d
I for one am more than willing to get into a MexiCan trade pact. Fuck the orange pedophile all the way to hell.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 51d
The problem with that is that there's something in the way.
PhAzE@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 51d
Don't worry, it has a 16 year cool down so this admin will be long gone before it stops being in effect.
lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 51d
Setting the path in place to blame whoever happens to be in power at that time.
If the fascists are still in power, they'll just push it further back.
PhAzE@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 51d
Yeah but a new administration can just sign it again. Having this long cool down forces it to pass through multiple administrations so it has to be agreed upon long term to end it.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 52d
🤣🤣 🤣🤣
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 51d
Nothing to say except poop jokes.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
Ooo what's you second favorite
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
My number 2?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
yeah
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
You really wanna hear it? It's shit.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 51d
Time for another round of grifting. Better warm up those crypto accounts because Daddy Trump needs some new shoes.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 51d
"look at me! Look at me!" says lil' donnie for the 17 millionth time.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 51d
Tell USA to fuck off, fuck off, fuck off. Plonkers!
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 52d
Welp, this will be fun to watch.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 52d
Kind of like corporate DEI, I think NAFTA was generally bad (well I don't think DEI was bad but it was generally half-assed), but now it's been forced on Mexican & Canadian economies removing it will be worse.