MAGA advocate calls for ban on pregnant women traveling to US and ‘sterilization of all foreign visitors’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/birthright-citizenship-maga-sean-davis-b3006698.html

Totally normal to suggest a ban on pregnant foreigners, the forced sterilization of all foreign visitors prior to entry, and the dissolution of the United States, when the supreme court doesn't rule in in your favor.

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RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 47d (11 replies)
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jordanlund@lemmy.world MOD · 30 pts · 47d (2 replies)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 47d

Love you dude. Thanks for sticking up for us.

athatet@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 47d

Hell yeah.

Blibly@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 47d (1 reply)

Agreed 100%. Constantly feeding the trolls is why they run everything now. They feed on attention and must be starved.

Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 47d

Slight correction. They’re not not feeding trolls, they’re platforming extremists to shift the Overton window further right. Most news media in the US is right leaning now.

CADmonkey@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 47d

Yes! The only reason these freakshows ever get heard is because of reporters giving them a platform.

Sadly, that is what the media owners want.

deranger@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 47d (1 reply)

I’ve been saying this for a while, but it’s still relevant. You need to view US politics under the lens of professional wrestling.

Of course they print this, and of course you’re going to hate it. That’s the entire point. These absurd people saying hateful things are the heels, you’re supposed to hate them. It also makes you like the faces even though they’re lackluster. Posting articles like these online in some sense of (lazy) advocacy or “staying informed” simply reinforces the worldview they’re pushing. It’s all propaganda.

Asafum@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 47d

It’s all propaganda.

It's why even though I do hate and blame the greedy narcissistic assholes that run the government, the ones I hate THE MOST are the propagandists.

Without pieces of shit like Sean Hannity and to a slightly lesser extent every other corporate media outlet the greedy narcissistic assholes wouldn't be able to thrive in the way that they do and we might actually be able to live in the same "reality" as the rest of the population instead of being fed different versions of reality to fight over.

I'd love to see the propagandists put in front of a firing squad. Air that shit for ratings, corporate fucks.

CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 47d

The media needs to call out the crazy people. Everyone has a platform online, which means that crazy people feel validated. Just because someone has a hundred thousand followers doesn’t make them an authority, and the media needs to be critical in what they promote

But emotional responses make clicks. Angry and scared emotional responses make more clicks. And clicks are the only thing that matters to these people.

KC_Royalz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d

This is how Rupert Murdoch built his empire in Australia and then brought it to America. 30 years later. Everyone is copying him. He ignored traditional news and wrote sensationalist headlines.

Themosthighstrange@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d

I wish we see more from the other side like NY Times posts a story like some socialists call for the guillotine to return

Hello_there@fedia.io · 68 pts · 47d (16 replies)

It is time for us to shift the Overton window back with opposite and equally absurd proposals.

We need to open foreign maternity centers so that we can grow the number of US citizens.

Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 47d

Anyone born on the soil of a US consulate, lel

whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 47d (1 reply)

Become the demagogue they keep spreading FUD over, a gay trans atheist communist socialist Napoleon roaming the countryside corrupting the youths and organizing workers to defenestrate the masters

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d

i'm not trans per se, i'm enby, but i'm doing my best with my bad music

AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 6 pts · 47d (1 reply)

Those Zambians and Peruvians and such sure will be surprised when they get their first US federal income tax bill.

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 46d

Ah...so we market it as "expanding the tax base"

renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 47d (2 replies)

opposite and equally absurd proposals

like respect for human dignity?

Hello_there@fedia.io · 5 pts · 47d (1 reply)

No. Like over respect for human dignity. Like, human dignity is king and nothing can infringe on it.

wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d

Hey hun, wake up, new No Kings protest just dropped

reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 47d

I know people might have over used the Mandalorian mantra for this kind of thing, but I think it fits here, so:

This is the way.

Steve@startrek.website · 1 pts · 47d

Literally a good idea…

scarabic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d

They make that kind of wild shit up about us already. It’s not helping.

newthrowaway20@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d (2 replies)

This just gives them more reason to push further right.

Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 47d

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 47d

They're doing that anyway. To fight the Overton window, you have to go extreme. It doesn't make sense, but Newton's laws of motion apply here. An object opinion in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an equal and opposite force opinion.

rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 47d (1 reply)

It is time for us to shift the Overton window back with opposite and equally absurd proposals.

And thus increasing the political divide.

Signtist@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 46d

Being passive and worrying about pushing away the people who were already running away from us of their own accord is what got us in this situation in the first place. This is a tug of war game and we've been letting them pull the rope away from us for decades, all for the sake of showing them how friendly we are as they laugh at our naivete. A con man isn't conning you because you did something to upset them, they're doing it because they're a con man.

clifmo@programming.dev · 59 pts · 47d (3 replies)

Yea yea, insane sterilization comment. But y'all he wants to literally break up the United States.

  1. Dissolution of the Union

Over the 14th amendment. You know, the one we passed as a direct outcome of a failed Civil War insurrection.

tacoplease@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 46d (1 reply)

Let the red states try to support themselves and we'll see what happens.

Chivera@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d

They're going straight to slavery to survive again.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d

why don't we "let" HIM do it. we've got plenty of sovcits pretending they've done it, he can just join them for realsies

trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 55 pts · 47d (6 replies)

"Sterilization" full on Reich shit

some_random_nick@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 47d (4 replies)

It even precedes it by a few decades. This is the first link I found https://ukdhm.org/forced-sterilization-policies-in-the-us-targeted-minorities-and-those-with-disabilities/

The United States was an international leader in eugenics. Its sterilization laws actually informed Nazi Germany. The Third Reich’s 1933 “Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases” was modeled on laws in Indiana and California.

trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 12 pts · 46d (2 replies)

You are correct, unfortunately

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 46d (1 reply)

(squint) is that by...Dr. Seuss?! Huh! :O

trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf · 11 pts · 46d

Yep

recursivepickle@piefed.social · 2 pts · 46d

Full circle.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 45d

You should know that the US Supreme Court ruled in Buck v. Bell that the government has the authority to sterilize citizens. A case that has never been overturned.

We've seen how these people feel about non-citizens, so they wouldn't think twice before extending that to them as well.

boelder@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 47d (1 reply)

These people are extremely comfortable saying horrific things out loud. This is the behavior of psychopaths.

sos242@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 47d

Oh I have been thinking of these kinds of people as just stupid,but I see your point it seems to be both, stupid and a psychopath.

inari@piefed.zip · 43 pts · 47d (3 replies)

Imagine getting chemically castrated for having a layover in Atlanta

EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 46d

Who said anything about chemically?

BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d

As someone who has spent far too much time in the Atlanta Layover Airport, I would say it's worth looking into.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 45d

"You have a 6 hour layover. That's plenty of time to hack off your balls. This way please..."

GaMEChld@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 47d (1 reply)

I call for this man's abortion.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 47d

One 136th trimester shmashmortion coming up.

BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 47d

Greyghoster@aussie.zone · 29 pts · 47d (3 replies)

There is an odd thought in all of this, that most foreigners want their kids to be US citizens. Are they all deranged?

Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 46d (2 replies)

Of all the counties in the world I would not want to be a citizen of, the USA is definitely up there.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 46d (1 reply)

Yeah, US tax obligations follow you around the globe if you're a citizen

mPony@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d

unless you're rich

Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 46d

This new grifter rage bait outrage economy bullshit needs to end. We need to go back to the days when talking like this made you an unemployed pariah

Professorozone@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 47d

I wish someone had banned his mother from getting pregnant.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 46d (7 replies)

And these people want to not be called nazis...

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 46d (3 replies)

If my history is correct i believe nazis took murican ideas on this topic. So it may be a pride thing.

zqps@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 45d (2 replies)

Yep, Nazi leadership was impressed by and took cues from US racial segregation.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 45d (1 reply)

And Henry Ford's antisemitic and eugenicist rantings.

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 42d

More reason to hate the "you can have any color as long as its black" guy

Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 46d (1 reply)

They are trying to manifest their own destiny again.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 45d

I hope their destiny meets the same fate as their inspirations.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 45d

That was my first thought, too. They get pissed when they get compared to Nazis, but then they spew stuff like this.

If you don't want to be considered a Nazi, stop saying and doing Nazi shit. It's as simple as that.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 47d

This guy's computer, right here.

jtrek@startrek.website · 17 pts · 47d

I don't think we should let this guy just walk around. He's clearly a danger to himself and others.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 47d (1 reply)

Visit America! All it will cost is your balls

Disclaimer: must like having them to enter

Hupf@feddit.org · 5 pts · 46d
  • women must have uterus to enter
  • uterus must be empty to enter
  • uterus also can't be emptied
modernangel@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 47d

"MAGA spews hateful shit" is lazy ragebait headlining. Bees sting, sharks bite, MAGAts shit... it's the circle of life.

blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 47d (1 reply)

The only white people on this continent were at one point foreign visitors... should they have been sterilized?

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 45d

Yes.

nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 46d (2 replies)

Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 45d

Critical Thinking Skills are the most important thing a student can learn, and it should be the primary objective of every student's education. Critical Thinking Skills are the best defense against propaganda, which is why the MAGA party is against it.

Even though it is how humans are supposed to think properly, the Right has actually claimed that it is bad for students, because it encourages them to question authority figures. To normal people, that's a good thing, but for MAGA, it's terrible. They demand undying loyalty and obedience. There is no room for Critical Thinking Skills.

Archimedes@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 45d

Dot forget fat!

lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 47d

Yet another angry white fringer wanting to see again thousands of Kluxers march on DC.

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 47d (3 replies)

this is what happens when people in power feed into the delsusions of the dangerously mentally ill.

otacon239@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 47d

The Venn Diagram is one circle inside the other.

Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -3 pts · 47d (1 reply)

I don’t think it’s a great idea to equate racism and nationalism with mental illness, considering it’s clearly not disabling in any way and sort of dodges accountability for those perpetrating it.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 47d

It's not the racism or nationals that is the mental illness, it's the belief in a Death Cult that worships torture, death, cannibalism, human sacrifice, zombies, and more. Their logo is their imaginary hero being tortured to death. They're so worried about children finding out that men and woman have different genitalia, yet they force kids to stare at, and even pray to, an image of a man being brutally tortured to death.

There is also OCD that manifests as uncontrolled financial hoarding. Instead of cleaning up their hoard, they are encouraged to hoard even more, and the government even gives them more.

Those two mental illnesses are causing massive damage to global society, but especially in the United States, where high level people suffering from both those illnesses are in control of this country.

rangber@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 47d

Bald ass bitch

Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 47d

So, you need to be sterilisied to go on a holiday to New York? What about business trips? Wouldn't that completely kill any form of international trade? Unless that's the point.

Meanwhile China is allowing Europeans to visit visa-free without any hassle...

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 47d (1 reply)

Why would anybody visit that shithole?

blattrules@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 47d

Free sterilization

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 45d

You'll hear it repeated by some Reform knobhead within a week.

Greyghoster@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 47d

Some people say the most ridiculous shit out loud. A good reason not to listen to shock jocks on the radio or Fox, it’s just too cringe worthy.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 47d
cloudless@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 47d

I guess that’s the next natural step on their path to the outright fascism.

Jiral@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 45d (1 reply)

Not even the Nazis were crazy enough to demand "forced sterilization of all foreign visitors prior to entry". The Nazis!

Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 45d

Even North Korea doesn't need to be that extreme, and they are currently the most mono-ethnic country on Earth. These guys just want to be cruel, the rest is just an excuse.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d

They really care so much about other peoples' genitals, huh?

Loce@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d

Ah yes, the American dream

Dryad@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 47d

What absolute monsters.

islandcoda42@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 45d (3 replies)

Pure, unadulterated fascism. If you support this, look in the mirror to see what a bonafide Nazi looks like in 2026.

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 43d (2 replies)

They somehow manage to top the Nazis

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luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 43d

The Nazis also didn't sterilise all foreigners. I guess it is stereotypical for the US to do everything bigger and louder than everyone else...

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 45d

America is getting dumber and meaner by the minute.

reksas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 45d

yet still people want to visit usa. personally i would rather visit north korea if forced to choose.

someguy3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d

Worth the read.

anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d

On the one hand I feel like let's not give these people media attention, on the other holy fuck.

whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 47d

Right up there with fox fascists considering gassing vs bombing US cities

rayyy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 47d

Should be reciprocal

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 47d

Add this guy to The List.

bhamlin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 44d

Y'all got any more of those sterilizations?

suodrazah@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 45d
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ViscloReader@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 45d

Combine gov. type shit

anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d

Guy makes a living being like this so of course he’ll be like this.