Any time someone uses the terms “alpha”, “beta”, or “sigma” unironically when referring to a person, I immediately write them off as a braindead waste of oxygen.
I’m not even religious, and I’m praying tiktok finally gets banned.
Feel the same way but why did you mention religious in particular? Do they have something against tiktok or something? I hate it for a bunch of reasons but I don't see anything that could be particularly religious.
There are no human alphas. Without each other we're all weak ass bitches. Just look at the series "Alone". Even the most rugged outdoorsmen absolutely get fucked hard when they are alone.
We're a social species. Our strength is our cooperation. Anyone who thinks he's above the rest kicking ass all alone is just a moron.
To be absolutely clear to anyone who hasn't read about this; it was debunked by the same guy who came up with it in the first place!
The dude studied wolves in captivity, drew conclusions about their behaviour, then applied those studies to wolves in the wild and discovered that he'd got it all wrong. The behaviours that he observed in captive wolves were all stress responses.
No no you've got it backwards. Those are just stress responses. Human alphas do exist but you have to put them in the wild with a hungry pack of wolves.
True. Though I’ll add, none of these people actually are leaders in their friend group or community. They think that being an aggressive ahole makes them a leader when real leadership tends to be about gently convincing people that they want to do what you want done or that they should do it anyways
Every time I see people call themselves an alpha I immediately think they’re a/b/o role playing on main. Mind you that kink also involves misunderstanding wolves, but kink is rarely based on reality
Just asked ChatGPT what the social structure of a Wolf pack is and it trotted out all the alpha, beta crap, because that’s now what most people believe.
The only thing I know about wolf socialization is from a documentary I saw where 2 wolves were fucking and the girl wolf's dad came back with the rest of her pack and caught them and when the boy wolf tried to run away he dragged her down like 3/4 of the giant hill they were on by his dick before it popped out. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a mockery of misogyny (or the more general toxic masculity). The Sigma male term was supposedly describing a social outcast who doesn't play the social game but still somehow wins the social game, and thus gets respect and women. Obviously the internet ran with it because it hits the sweetspot of stupidity where it becomes funny
Of course some people actually believe it and use it unironically, but it's mostly about mocking the supposed Greek lettered male classification. Then again memes change in time and maybe it is returning to its original toxic meaning.
The wolf thing is a myth, these actually refer to the stages of software deveopment. Alpha is buggy, unstable, missing key features and unsutable for the public. Beta is mostly complete, but may still have bugs or occasional crashes. (So basicly teenagers)
Some recent papers sugest it might also refer to alpha particles, high mass but very low penetration power and depth. These particles are typicaly emitted by high mass atom.
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BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 161 pts · 2y
Any time someone uses the terms “alpha”, “beta”, or “sigma” unironically when referring to a person, I immediately write them off as a braindead waste of oxygen.
I’m not even religious, and I’m praying tiktok finally gets banned.
RogueBanana@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 2y
Feel the same way but why did you mention religious in particular? Do they have something against tiktok or something? I hate it for a bunch of reasons but I don't see anything that could be particularly religious.
enkille@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 2y
Probably the "praying" part
RogueBanana@lemmy.zip · 37 pts · 2y
Ah ofc I would miss the super obvious one...
Ashen@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
Hahah, you're not alone! I made the same mistake.
jaykay@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 2y
Excuse me, I’m a delta
Nikki@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
i am the omega female
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · 113 pts · 2y
If you have to tell people you're an alpha, you're not.
madcaesar@lemmy.world · 136 pts · 2y
There are no human alphas. Without each other we're all weak ass bitches. Just look at the series "Alone". Even the most rugged outdoorsmen absolutely get fucked hard when they are alone.
We're a social species. Our strength is our cooperation. Anyone who thinks he's above the rest kicking ass all alone is just a moron.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 121 pts · 2y
There's no wolf alphas in nature neither. It's an old and debunked theory based on studying captive wolves.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-alpha-wolf-idea-a-myth/
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 101 pts · 2y
To be absolutely clear to anyone who hasn't read about this; it was debunked by the same guy who came up with it in the first place!
The dude studied wolves in captivity, drew conclusions about their behaviour, then applied those studies to wolves in the wild and discovered that he'd got it all wrong. The behaviours that he observed in captive wolves were all stress responses.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 2y
Because he’s a good scientist. He followed the evidence, ran a different experiment to test his findings, and followed the evidence again.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 2y
Absolutely. He had the courage to question his own assumptions when they were challenged by new evidence. Everyone could stand to learn from him.
Agrivar@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y
So, what I'm hearing is that there are human alpha males... but only in prisons. That checks out.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 2y
No no you've got it backwards. Those are just stress responses. Human alphas do exist but you have to put them in the wild with a hungry pack of wolves.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 2y
To be fair, the alpha male thing in humanity is also a stress response.
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y
Well then I'm alpha as fuck.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Didn't he also put a bunch of adolescent wolves together for that? It was basically a lupine Lord of the Flies in there.
tooclose104@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 2y
I found this too be quite interesting:
Toxoplasmosis and Wolves
To me, this makes all the "I'm an alpha, like a wolf" bumble even funnier. Nah, you're just a cat person with poop on the brain.
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 2y
That is an interesting article, thanks for sharing!
prole@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
GBU_28@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 2y
Not joining the whole alpha thing but where does alpha get described as lone?
Meme Alphas are purported to be top dog but they still run with a pack
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
True. Though I’ll add, none of these people actually are leaders in their friend group or community. They think that being an aggressive ahole makes them a leader when real leadership tends to be about gently convincing people that they want to do what you want done or that they should do it anyways
Kalysta@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
What? Someone making sense about the social evolution of humans? Not on my internet!
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 2y
Stop your honking, Nancy. I know. I was calling people who claim to be alpha, "weak ass bitches."
Phegan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
How beta.
xkforce@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 2y
Alpha software: broken and incomplete software
Alpha radiation: very little penetration power
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
Alpha Centauri: less than a tenth of the mass of Beta Centauri.
maccentric@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y
Did you just call me fat?
rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y
Sounds like me...
xor@infosec.pub · 46 pts · 2y
technohacker@programming.dev · 19 pts · 2y
Missed opportunity for her to delta outta there instead
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 2y
I tried that once but my flight got delayed twice so I flew frontier instead.
ivanafterall@kbin.social · 12 pts · 2y
Perfect opportunity to howl as she walks away from the table. AR-AR-AROOOOO!!!!
a_random_fox@discuss.tchncs.de · 45 pts · 2y
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 2y
Every time I see people call themselves an alpha I immediately think they’re a/b/o role playing on main. Mind you that kink also involves misunderstanding wolves, but kink is rarely based on reality
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 2y
Please god please don't bring a/b/o here, Lemmy was my safe space 😭
Tomassci@kbin.social · 2 pts · 2y
out of context this looks like you're afraid of blood groups, in context I agree
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 2y
It's alpha as in alpha-stage software. Unfit for production.
loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 2y
What's a/b/o role playing?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
So here’s an entertaining video that will give the basics. But it’s a kink based around the alpha wolf idea
loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 2y
If this is an hour long video explaining wolf porn then we might have a different view on 'entertaining'
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
It’s a video explaining a lawsuit over wolf porn copyrights. It’s entertaining by batshit value
force@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
if i had to take a guess, alpha beta omega?
loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 2y
And what is that supposed to mean?
force@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
no idea
The_Lopen@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y
Definitely don't go looking up anything like "Omegaverse".
loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
Why does this exist???????
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 2y
wtf is a TL
jkibble@lemmy.ca · 47 pts · 2y
Pretty sure that's time line
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 2y
Thank you! I legitimately had no idea what that could stand for.
skvlp@lemm.ee · 33 pts · 2y
https://img.ifunny.co/images/203d5a0b1c218f4c01ab7dc4d6ff89754d585464c9019e3f2f16e817aafef5bc_1.jpg
zurohki@aussie.zone · 101 pts · 2y
Embedding the image:
skvlp@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y
Tnx :)
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 2y
Just asked ChatGPT what the social structure of a Wolf pack is and it trotted out all the alpha, beta crap, because that’s now what most people believe.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 2y
Sigma? How about ligma?
Mazoku@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Who’s Joe
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Joe deez nuts
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2y
Jody's Nuts? Are we on 196 rn?
button_masher@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Ligma Joe?
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2y
Mind goblin?
OwlPaste@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 2y
Actually it turns out its a myth that there are alpha wolves at all. Makes this even better. https://www.sciencenorway.no/ulv/wolf-packs-dont-actually-have-alpha-males-and-alpha-females-the-idea-is-based-on-a-misunderstanding/1850514
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 95 pts · 2y
I think that's exactly what the meme is about
cybersandwich@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 2y
That is an oddly specific amount of gryffindor points.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 2y
Astute observation! Minus 12 points to Slytherin!
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 13 pts · 2y
The only thing I know about wolf socialization is from a documentary I saw where 2 wolves were fucking and the girl wolf's dad came back with the rest of her pack and caught them and when the boy wolf tried to run away he dragged her down like 3/4 of the giant hill they were on by his dick before it popped out. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
JammaJammaPJ@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 2y
Isn't this the plot of one of those twilight movies
orphiebaby@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 2y
FoXeS aRe JuSt CaT sOfTwArE rUnNiNg On DoG hArDwArE.
Also rabbits eat carrots, mice eat cheese, and turtles eat pizza
nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 2y
sigma balls
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 2y
I think Sigma is more often used to describe misogyny than anything positive, so I'm definitely not that either.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 2y
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a mockery of misogyny (or the more general toxic masculity). The Sigma male term was supposedly describing a social outcast who doesn't play the social game but still somehow wins the social game, and thus gets respect and women. Obviously the internet ran with it because it hits the sweetspot of stupidity where it becomes funny
Of course some people actually believe it and use it unironically, but it's mostly about mocking the supposed Greek lettered male classification. Then again memes change in time and maybe it is returning to its original toxic meaning.
baseless_discourse@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 2y
Yes, Xitter is also my platform of choice to consume non-dumb-ass content...
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 2y
I'm the omega man
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 3 pts · 2y
I bet you encounter a lot of resistance...
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
In my whole life, a lot of zombies out there
fossilesque@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 2y
nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
The wolf thing is a myth, these actually refer to the stages of software deveopment. Alpha is buggy, unstable, missing key features and unsutable for the public. Beta is mostly complete, but may still have bugs or occasional crashes. (So basicly teenagers)
Some recent papers sugest it might also refer to alpha particles, high mass but very low penetration power and depth. These particles are typicaly emitted by high mass atom.
Reddfugee42@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Are we all supposed to sigma now?
Daft_ish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
morrowind@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 2y
Join me on !sigma_memes