The shoestring paradox. It was always a trime traveller, trying to prevent a war that caused the war that caused the war that they are trying to prevent
It wasn't, but now that somebody came back and screwed up the timeline, the utopian future they originally came from got detached from our causality. Can't get there from here anymore. :(
The question we really need to be asking is why were they trying to alter the timeline in the first place? Presumably they come from a timeline in which the second world war didn't happen so what's their beef with Hitler.
imagine you do that, and the guy still does ww2, and that was your only chance.
Now imagine, you do that, and the guy is born much smarter, and he actually wins, and that was your only chance.
Ofc he still does the war, otherwise why would you go back in time to have sex with some Austrian chick?
(But WW2 was happening anyway, that's why we went back in time to kill that tourist in Serbia)
This makes one self consistent timeline where the big reveal is OP kills the archduke starting WW1 giving rise to Hitler in the first place.
What we wouldn't know is the nature of "Jenkins" let's call him, before the very first time travel that first timeline OP went back to kill. Maybe it was in fact the archduke who rises to horrible power, adding another layer of indirection to the story.
Seems to me that, once you time travel you're on a different timeline where the events you originally wanted to change didnt happen so you wouldn't have memory of them, right? Perhaps you'd think it was all about Hitler, but Hitler was the result not the cause.
Edit: Lots of words to effectively reinvent and colorize the bootstrap paradox lol. Should have read the thread first.
53 Comments
echodot@feddit.uk · 73 pts · 1y
The shoestring paradox. It was always a trime traveller, trying to prevent a war that caused the war that caused the war that they are trying to prevent
ch00f@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y
Gee, didn't realize fascism was the default
subignition@fedia.io · 28 pts · 1y
It wasn't, but now that somebody came back and screwed up the timeline, the utopian future they originally came from got detached from our causality. Can't get there from here anymore. :(
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
We missed out on shrimp being the default
Cheems@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I think that the people that want to be in power and have control over others are predispositioned to lean fascist.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 1y
The question we really need to be asking is why were they trying to alter the timeline in the first place? Presumably they come from a timeline in which the second world war didn't happen so what's their beef with Hitler.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Probably a disgruntled art critic.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Mega Hitler
Shardikprime@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
We literally live in the best of all possible worlds
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social · 0 pts · 1y
in that case i have to wonder if you've taken a history class
Rokin@lemm.ee · 47 pts · 1y
I think "1914" in Serbian is "1914"
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 1y
I love how many polyglots here are! I learned to say 1914 in 4 languages this year and I can confirm that in Serbian it's "1914".
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
Big if true
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
he was looking at it in a mirror. thought it was 1941.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y
he accidentally entered 1491 and decided fuck it, I'll find a new route for the Indies. His name ? Christopher Colombus
Rooty@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Hiljadu devetsto četrnaesta - checks out.
dellish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
OP says the calendar is in Serbian, not the number.
Worx@lemmynsfw.com · 23 pts · 1y
Any guy in a car in the past must be Hitler, right?
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y
I... he... he had... a uniform and a funny mustache...
toynbee@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
You killed Worf?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 1y
When Worf and Hitler kiss, their beards fit perfectly into each other
toynbee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
This is also what I had in mind!
edit: Also, Wolverine from the front looks like two Batmen kissing.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y
You know, if you can't tell those two guys apart, that's on you. And the education system.
sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 1y
Red Alert modding community, where are you?
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 20 pts · 1y
We fled to the ONLY place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism. . . .
SPAICE!
negativenull@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
Shardikprime@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
The spaice must flow
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
There is one good thing you can say about Hitler. He killed Hitler.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Yeah, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler. So it's kind of a wash
Olmai@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Well, yes, but consider he is the one who killed the guy who killed the guy who killed hitler !
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
That dude just killed everyone. Damn!
kromem@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Always check the mustache first.
anzo@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1y
Hitler copied it from Chaplin (or so it claimed Charles)
joyjoy@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 1y
"Oh no, I missed. Oh well, I guess I'll get a sandwich."
(Later, outside the sandwich shop): history
sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 1y
"Oopsy-doodle! Well, what's one archduke anyway, right?"
kambusha@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
I know I won't be leaving here. With you.
Sweetshark@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 1y
I mean: ultimately ended three monarchies, but at what cost.
Maven@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 1y
About 82-132 million people
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
That motion of events is a bit like going back in time to have sex with Adolfys mom 9 months before he is born.
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1y
imagine you do that, and the guy still does ww2, and that was your only chance. Now imagine, you do that, and the guy is born much smarter, and he actually wins, and that was your only chance.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
Ofc he still does the war, otherwise why would you go back in time to have sex with some Austrian chick?
(But WW2 was happening anyway, that's why we went back in time to kill that tourist in Serbia)
Dang, then I'm prob not the father of this one :/
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
She's hot?
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah, her signature Chaplin mustache was ahead of her time and misunderstood.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Whilst it was done in the name of Siberians, it happened in Bosnia.
verstra@programming.dev · 8 pts · 1y
Siberians, lol
They would not like being called that
HK65@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Neither do they like that Bosnia is an independent country, but such is life
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
good
egrets@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Charlie Chaplin didn't die of a stroke. They covered it all up.
blazeknave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Any other humans thinking about DC Legends of Tomorrow reading this???
Manalith@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Those first few seasons were solid.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
But now that artillery gunner at the Somme aimed their next shot just a tick over to meet its mark...
And now Jenkins survives...
weeeeum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
This couldn't happen, because hitler would have only become leader if ww1 happened.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
Exactly, that's why this works isn't it?
This makes one self consistent timeline where the big reveal is OP kills the archduke starting WW1 giving rise to Hitler in the first place.
What we wouldn't know is the nature of "Jenkins" let's call him, before the very first time travel that first timeline OP went back to kill. Maybe it was in fact the archduke who rises to horrible power, adding another layer of indirection to the story.
Seems to me that, once you time travel you're on a different timeline where the events you originally wanted to change didnt happen so you wouldn't have memory of them, right? Perhaps you'd think it was all about Hitler, but Hitler was the result not the cause.
Edit: Lots of words to effectively reinvent and colorize the bootstrap paradox lol. Should have read the thread first.