Most everyone I know would pronounce them the same. The Pacific northwest hates pronouncing the letter 't', either turning it into a 'd' sound, slurring past it, or at the end of words dropping it entirely
Interesting... I'm from NJ and there's no audible difference between ladder and latter here, nor between madder and matter. However, my parents are both from different parts of NJ than where I was raised, and they do pronounce them differently!
I swear ta god I once read a story about this guy, around the time of Turing and Bletchley Park, who was an expert parachutist. His boss had a 4th floor office. And every time this parachutist left his boss' office, he'd just jump out the 4th floor window because even without a parachute, he knew how to land without hurting himself.
(I'm not intentionally making this up, but unfortunately I can't find any references online to it....)
I believe you. That's why I keep trying to find the story, my memory must have got some detail wrong and I'm wondering what detail it was. Maybe he used a zip line or something.
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EdanGrey@sh.itjust.works · 53 pts · 1y
Is this a pronunciation thing? Those words are not homophones where I am
ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 1y
Most everyone I know would pronounce them the same. The Pacific northwest hates pronouncing the letter 't', either turning it into a 'd' sound, slurring past it, or at the end of words dropping it entirely
gregor@gregtech.eu · 26 pts · 1y
How to sound American tutorial
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Nah, we pronunce them very differently here in the midwest. They sound as different as matter and madder.
droans@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I'm also in the Midwest (Indiana) and have the opposite experience.
They might not be perfect homophones but you're rarely using a full hard T sound. Usually something between a d and t sound.
klemptor@startrek.website · 3 pts · 1y
Interesting... I'm from NJ and there's no audible difference between ladder and latter here, nor between madder and matter. However, my parents are both from different parts of NJ than where I was raised, and they do pronounce them differently!
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
America is big lol
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
A bit, yeah.
GrammarPolice@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
whostosay@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Alright, settle down
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I'm from the PNW. I do pronounce the T sound in latter. I also put more emphasis on the first syllable than I do when pronouncing ladder.
Chronographs@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y
Same in the northeast
klemptor@startrek.website · 4 pts · 1y
I'm from NJ and there's no audible difference between ladder and latter here. Both have a D sound.
odigo2020@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1y
smeg@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y
Americans pronounce Ts as Ds
Mr_Blott@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 1y
FatTony@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Could someone explain? I'm too homophobic for this.
mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
You need to use the FOMO phone. It's in the lader
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 1y
Those don't sound like homophones unless you're from Bwoooaastaaan. 🤣🤣
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y
I've never been to Boston, but been to a few major cities in north America and everywhere I've been would pronounce these the same.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Robert Evans enjoyer detected
klemptor@startrek.website · 1 pts · 1y
I'm from NJ and they sound the exact same here.
ieightpi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Okay so maybe not homophones but if there was a blaring fire behind you, you mind mishear the person below. It's still funny.
Sergio@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 1y
I swear ta god I once read a story about this guy, around the time of Turing and Bletchley Park, who was an expert parachutist. His boss had a 4th floor office. And every time this parachutist left his boss' office, he'd just jump out the 4th floor window because even without a parachute, he knew how to land without hurting himself.
(I'm not intentionally making this up, but unfortunately I can't find any references online to it....)
Eheran@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
You can't just jump from 4th floor and be fine because "you know how to land", it will absolutely fuck you up.
Sergio@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1y
I believe you. That's why I keep trying to find the story, my memory must have got some detail wrong and I'm wondering what detail it was. Maybe he used a zip line or something.
Anticorp@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
When someone asks you from the other room if you want something, do not say "yeah". Say only "yes" or "no". Yeah can be indistinguishable from nah.
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Yeah nah
Anticorp@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Murder most foul!
GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
This ishomophonobia, plain and simple
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Funny, one of the connections categories for today was homophones.
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Did you have to work today or do you do daily puzzles outside of office hours?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Oh deer, this brakes my heart. May his sole rest in piece in the sweet buy and buy.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 1y
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y
spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
That would ruin the joke, since speech bubbles match what is literally said.
If latter and ladder were actually homophones it would word as is.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
I thought the same but reread the comic text carefully. It says not the latter.