Haven't seen another post for election updates yet, so creating this. Share your bets on how many times Anthony Green is going to have a screen malfunction.
Haven't seen another post for election updates yet, so creating this. Share your bets on how many times Anthony Green is going to have a screen malfunction.
233 Comments
Kayel@aussie.zone · 32 pts · 1y
Good news, apparently Australia does not like politicians who align themselves with fascists
Bad news, not a minority government
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 1y
Not looking good for the greens at all, I'm really surprised Melbourne has turned on them by the looks of it ?
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 1y
In the lower house. Senate currently looks likely to have a Greens balance of power. https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/results/senate
Beware the propaganda.
imoldgreeeg@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Well to be fair I have felt for a while the greens are a bit lost. It's a very interesting result - some naval gazing needed I think
redwattlebird@lemmings.world · 0 pts · 1y
Do you think it was the Israel/Palestine stance?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
I saved this from 5 months ago: https://aussie.zone/post/15598435/13409792
It's not just the Israel/Palestine stance (which I don't want to get into because I'll get downvoted to heck) but a big part is housing, they were seen (rightly or wrongly) as delaying housing, as someone who voted for MMC to see him doing this killed me
There was other things but a big one that stands out to me was this:
https://greens.org.au/news/media-release/greens-wont-support-rba-reforms-until-labor-tells-bank-cut-rates
That is absolutely fucking insane, it might just be the most insane economics policy I'd ever seen, this is Donald Trump tier idiocy, it's a similar line to wanting to get rid of the Fed Chair in America but even he backed off after realising how badly it would mess things up
The central bank is independent, if the government starts setting the rates then what is the point of the central bank?
There was loads of other things they did
https://www.9news.com.au/national/adam-bandts-australian-flag-stunt-branded-as-virtue-signaling-and-highly-insulting/0f7564a9-9615-47a8-aec9-414380fa16b5
I just hope that the greens take some lessons from this election
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I think it would have been the blocking of legislation last year, if anything.
But i have heard the seats they won last time were a bit of fluke narrow path to victory that would be hard to hold, but the ABC are saying they're marginally increasing overall vote share 12.5% to 12.7%.
So maybe this will be a story about an aberration election, followed by a correction to their tradition of rising broad support across Australia.
If thats the case then they shouldn't look at tonight's outcome as a bad result, they gave the Majors their first genuine scare last election, with their vote share rising, this will make it more likely to happen in more diversified seats across the country. Thats a great future for the Greens, what they don't want is to have a fate like the Nationals where they're geographically cornered with no real avenue for growth as a Party.
werty@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 1y
werty@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 1y
Removed because i dont wote for religious people, is that allowed? Is atheism allowed?
eureka@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
That is not why your post was deleted.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 29 pts · 1y
People of Dickson had an opportunity to do the funniest thing of all term and they took it.
You bloody rippers you <3
No1@aussie.zone · 26 pts · 1y
On Sky, Andrew Bolt just blamed Elon Musk for Peter Dutton not winning on Donald Trump's platform.
I just can't....
LavaPlanet@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
Omg, that's fucking hilarious!
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 24 pts · 1y
"I won't mention pre-poll because people ARE drinking when I say 'pre poll'"
Fucking LOL
werty@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Im so fucking drunk
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 1y
MisterFrog@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
This was my favourite part of tonight hahaha
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 22 pts · 1y
I was wearing a Nazi uniform in a private Facebook post and it’s the media’s fault that the voting public found out about it. - Jacinta Price
No1@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
That was some of the most twisted logic I'd ever heard.
I was wearing the hat as a joke, and four words have no meaning, but you need to take me seriously!
WAT?
TastyWheat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
She makes me sick.
Australis13@fedia.io · 7 pts · 1y
She really has no self-awareness, does she? https://live.australiainstitute.org.au/2025/05/australia-institute-live-election-2025-results/#a87d1a79e7
veroxii@aussie.zone · 21 pts · 1y
Dutton was poison and deeply unpopular already in the Scomo years. Looks like people didn't forget. I'm starting to feel some landslide vibes here early on.
notgold@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 1y
Sink LNP. Bring up some socialists
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 1y
Pretty big swing against him in Dickson right now. He might lose his own seat.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 17 pts · 1y
Did Jacinta just seriously waffle out an implied allegation that the AEC is corrupt? That's fucking insane.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Had me raising my eyebrows too.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Oh shit wtf did she say?
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 2 pts · 1y
https://youtu.be/gdbqVaXHJik
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Hmm, I can definitely see how you'd interpret it as accusing the AEC, but I don't think that's it. At worst, it's accusing the AEC of failing to adequately kerb bad behaviour from Labor. But it was mostly accusing Labor and the media of being abusive. Unhinged, but not, I think, in the way you took it.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 1 pts · 1y
The AEC is responsible for ensuring that staffers/volunteers at polling boths are conducting themselves within the bounds of the law and that voters are not intimidated.
If she is alledging that people are being harrassed in line etc and the AEC is not reporting this/involving the police she is alleging AEC corruption.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 1y
notgold@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Feels pretty accurate
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 1y
A solid concession speech. Can't imagine such a speech coming from any of the Liberal party's leaders over the last decade.
Jeez, remember Malcolm Turnbull having a drunken tantrum on election night and threatening to send the AFP after the Labor party... That was his ACCEPTANCE speech.
notgold@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Agreed. I'm not a fan of Dutton but his concession speech was mainly truth and from the heart. At least he's somewhat graceful in defeat.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 1y
First screen malfunction 20 mins in. Drink!
No1@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
It was the very first reveal of results!
I'd say it's worthy of a double, but I reckon we need some restraint this early on.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Yeah honestly we couldn't ask for a more classic start.
No1@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 1y
I feel sorry for Dutton's kids. They only have a choice of one out of eight properies each...
Very tough going
werty@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 1y
Some senator on abc called himself a reagan republican. The man should be arrested for treason.
boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I implore you, as an American who has witnessed the generational devastation that has resulted from the Reagan presidency, throw anyone who says that into the middle of the fucking Pacific.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Mcgrath said that.
That was actually pretty wild for his side of politics to go that far in these times. His side of politics are fully dominated by MAGA-esque types.
He went further than what you say even, he identified himself with the Neo-libs (Reagan), and the Neo-Cons (Bush), pretty sure he even mentioned Nixon, but i can't remember now.
Basically he identified himself with everyone from his side of Politics except the current ruling international faction, what i'll call the Dickwads International Klan, or D.I.K.
werty@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
Im glad im not the only one who noticed, very dissappointed that the panel ignored it. I thought him identifying himself as an american agent was a big fucking deal and it should have been highlighted and linked to the ass kicking.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 1y
ABC right now: BREAKING: Peter Dutton has lost his seat in parliament
Unreal
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 1y
"Let's wait for the pre-poll" has to be on the bingo card next time.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Can replace "too close to call"
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Going to have to scull my drink to catch-up.
No1@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 1y
Sky News panel all dreading that call from Rupert.
"What the FUCK did you just let happen? Was I not clear after Canada?"
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 11 pts · 1y
No mate, you aligned with trump and people can see that the ideology is poison. It's not the "TRUMP FACTOR" if you're wearing maga hats, talking about woke in school, and doing an Australian doge. That's you having dogshit politics.
No1@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 1y
Antony Green was right.
Look at the TAS vote when it gets to 5%, and you have your winner lol
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 1y
Eat shit, Dutton. What a shit campaign those idiots ran
vividspecter@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y
On the one hand, a bit disappointed that the Greens haven't done amazingly on results so far. But I have a huge sense of relief that Dutton and the Coalition have been soundly rejected.
No1@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Haven't seen senate results yet. Greens may be the 'keep the bastards honest' choice there
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 7 pts · 1y
Yeah it's a shame. Might be better overall for the quality of aus politics in the long run but labour has been extremely shit in some regards.
Hoping that the Senate will force some progress and the improved confidence of labor will lead to more bold policy but we shall see.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 1y
Omg. The lamb and bee in the background. Lambie!
veroxii@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 1y
notgold@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Missed that. Gold! 🪙
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 1y
🤯
No1@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 1y
Dutton behind in early count!
Oh no! Anyways...
No1@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 1y
ABC, you are wasting your time asking policy questions...
The LNP doesn't know. And it's an inappropriate time to say anyways
No1@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
If Antony's computer is down for the rest of the night, does that count as one drink, or do we need to drink each time they cross to him?
Asking for a friend. My poor liver.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
I think every crossing.
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
I'm gonna have to switch to Sky in about 3 more crosses 🤣
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1y
Fuck yeah. Looks like Dickson has fallen.
46% of the vote counted and Labor candidate in the lead on 57%
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
That is crazy
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I was not expecting that much of a swing to Labor. Absolutely crazy.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 9 pts · 1y
Man by the way they go on you'd think the greens had been in government.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Just jealous because you're total babes.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 11 pts · 1y
All the running from the cops after vandalising signage keeps us fit and trim
No1@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
Call it, Antony!
Go out with a bang!
notgold@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
He just said LNP can't win
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 9 pts · 1y
Never thought thinking about Dickson would make me feel a certain something.
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
I wonder how Gina is handling the news tonight
veroxii@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 1y
TastyWheat@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
I'm so relieved.
No1@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
cLiMaTe 2o0 & TeAlS StOp uS fRoM WiNnInG!
Not your climate policies?
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 5 pts · 1y
They're wedged, wedged. They are competing against everyone, unlike uh everyone else who famously get on.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I wonder how many independents will get up? Maybe 15 or so?
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 4 pts · 1y
(´｡• ω •｡`)
No1@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
With the size of this win, ALP could have another 9 years if they govern for the people
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 1y
I think the planets kind of aligned for Labor in a way they're unlikely to again.
I'll take the win this time and hope for the best in three years.
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
There's plenty of time for Rupert and the drop-kicks at the IPA to come up with a new strategy. Dunno if they will ever come up with anything as successful as they did in 2013, though
imoldgreeeg@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Well that's the challenge right?
veroxii@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Fucking sky news just called it!
veroxii@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Old barnyard already beetroot red... Also playing the drinking game
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
But then they could still form minority government.,
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
The panel are all saying looks like Coalition lost. Even Barnaby.
No1@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Oh no! Anyways... 🤣
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
James McGrath being an absolute shining example of why people’s opinions of politicians is lower than dirt.
notgold@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Women problem. Drink.
TastyWheat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Price got a much colder reception than on Sky, lol.
No1@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
On Sky, Andrew Bolt just said if Dutton loses, LNP has no candidate worthy of leader 🤣
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I think, or more hope, Sky propagandists are as usual wrong.
I think there might be some strong Liberals that could come right into the foreground.
Now that the 2010's crowd are finally getting shoved to the side, the Liberals might have enough clear air, or a clean enough slate, to reinvent and renew themselves to be more representative of the direction and attitudes of the country today.
Problem they've had since Abbott, has been this idea they've loosely held of a natural line of succession. That Turnbull had to have his turn, Dutton the same, Friedenberg was also expected to have a turn as Party leader along the same vein. Morrison was definitely the wild card in that though.
A Member i'll be watching is Andrew Hastie, he seems a good operator, shit opinions on the world, but competence is important, especially in a time for rebuilding a Party, which the Libs obviously need to do.
No1@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Former Labor minister Graham Richardson, who hasn’t lost his talent for the one-liner, said the Liberals have got to ask themselves where do we go now?
“We’ve tried Dutton - what else have we got? Well not much because if Angus Taylor is the answer, it’s a stupid question.”
Source
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Hahaha, i've heard nothing but dunks on Taylor, its been pretty funny. There'll be a collective national groan if they select him i think.
No1@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
LNP narrative already kicking in.
"Not like Trump"
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
"Trump Factor"
Might hear that a bit tonight.
notgold@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Almost. American factor. So close...
notgold@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Finally heard Trump factor. Drink.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Cheers! 🍻
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Oh good! Antony had his computer working again
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y
Duttons concession was shit.
"Labor lied about us so the voters got it wrong"
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I only heard a small snippet of Dutton's concession that the ABC played while I was driving home near midnight. It was focused on Dickson rather than the prime ministership. But that part of it, at least, was really good IMO. Explicitly saying your opponent will be good, the really heartfelt personal touch about her son. I was impressed. Honestly if the person who delivered that speech was the same person who ran the campaign (and has been a powerful player in politics for more than the last decade), he may have won.
But of course, that man would have had an entirely different political trajectory, so who's to say. Considerate people don't exactly excel in the LNP.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
C'mon DICKSON!
imoldgreeeg@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
"nice try James" go get him Sabrah
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Sarah is a champ!
No1@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Some of the ABC commentators sound like they can't finish their sentences because they are full on having an orgasm lol
TassieTosser@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Wow Labor almost got a clean sweep in tas.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Is that a reaction to State level politics?
Or do they just hate the Federal Libs?
TassieTosser@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
A little from column A, little from column B. Our state libs have been closer to the Teals in politics. Dutto going full retard probably turned off quite a few people.
Then there's also the stadium and fish farms. Protest votes to indies and greens probably flowed to Labor before Liberal.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Yeah the fish farms, i wish they'd worked better than they have. Years ago they were touted as such a sustainable way of business. Its sad to see the reality never lived up to the hype.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
That big dick Dickson swing baby!
imoldgreeeg@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Love to see it
veroxii@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Those nasty nasty greens. Lol
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 7 pts · 1y
Preferences on nation
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Old mate is goin in on them!
veroxii@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
The final horcrux has been destroyed.
notgold@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Did Anything Green just call Futton, Peter Dickhead?
rosahaj@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Peat a dick -- Peter Dutton
werty@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Yes, i saw it and it will never be denied
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I heard it too.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Greens not looking too hot.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 14 pts · 1y
What do you mean, we're all total babes.
No1@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
I knew sfa about their seats in QLD, but potentially losing 3 to Labor surprised me
veroxii@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Antony is back!! Turned it off and on again!
No1@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Clive Palmer on the 7 panel claiming victory tells you everything you need to know about Channel 7
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 12 pts · 1y
Clive Palmer on the 7 panel
claiming victorytells you everything you need to know about Channel 7GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Every former prime minister had a lot of great things to say about Antony Green except Morrison who used a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
He said Antony was a professional 3 times. I knew a guy who was a church minister and he talked a lot, but never really said much because he said everything 3 times. I think they teach them that at church... Tell them what you will say, tell it to them and then tell them what you just said.
MisterFrog@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 1y
Scotty from marketing, a whole lotta words, not much substance.
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Haha, yeah! It's actually a little depressing to be reminded of his severe lack of leadership qualities.
Regardless of what I think of their policies, every other prime minister has had the leadership skills expected of the role they filled... Except Scotty who was nothing more than an incurious robot masquerading as a daggy dad.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
YouTube ABC News link for those not watching on TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTiJkg1voo
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
No-one booed.
When Dutton blamed himself for the loss no-one booed. Every other concession speech I can remember in my way too many years. The losing party faithful boo when the leader blames themselves.
No1@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
No graphics! Drink!
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
"Bad news everywhere [for the LNP]" - Antony Green
Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Over already. There goes my plans for the evening!
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Ooh. Computer problem! DRIIIINK!
No1@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Hey, also, thanks for the post!
veroxii@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
No problemo
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Pre-poll votes have become LNP copium.
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
It’s just pure brain worms on Sky News. I couldn’t watch for more than 5 minutes
No1@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Schadenfreude is delicious
But it is very rich, and can be sickening
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Proof I'm not just fake online drinking. 😀
notgold@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Cheers
veroxii@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y
Nice baby jail. I see most parents eventually realise you can't contain your child, but you can cordon off the electronics! Luckily we're past that stage now.
notgold@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I was past that then we had an extra for the country.... if I'm losing early retirement he can lose some of the lounge room.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
We were some of the last people to still get the previous baby bonus. Watching election on my big flat screen right now.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Cheers to that!
notgold@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
"Solid"
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
SOLID???????????????????????????????
I was expecting 'could have gone better' but SOLID??????
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Okay I'm gonna watch some Black Mirror soon. This potato is cooked.
Thanks everyone! Short and sweet.
Nolvamia@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Mmmm. Roasted potato.
Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Yoo, nice result. Shout outs from Canada.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
9 news just officially called it for Labor
No1@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
If the ex-ABC presenter in Franklin wins the seat off the ALP candidate, will the LNP become pro ABC?
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
ABC no longer the hate media, you heard it here first.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Christopher Pyne saying this might be worst result since party creation with less than a third of all seats.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
James is mad.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 1y
To be fair, I wouldn't enjoy being him over the next hour.
There's really nothing that he can possibly say at this time other than "Lets wait for more votes to come in."
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Jim is starting to look smug. I would too.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 4 pts · 1y
Furious too
veroxii@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Dutton is hiding! What a coward!
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 6 pts · 1y
This long after sundown too, usually he's hungry.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Expecto Patronum!
No1@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
I feel a bit sorry for the LNP guy on the ABC panel.
I think they should allow a tag team, and switch in somebody fresh
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 5 pts · 1y
Huff the copium my boy. Huff
veroxii@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Yeah he's sweating
boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Congrats on taking care of your garbage.
No1@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
All these candidates in black like they're attending a funeral....
imoldgreeeg@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Glorious mullet just behind Bandt tho
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Tasmania went all liberal last time due to pokies or something right? Seems like things are swinging back now in a big way.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Screen still down! Drink!
vividspecter@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
PollBludger calling Dickson for Labor.
No1@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I like that they are showing appropriate respect talking about Peter Dutton picking up a seat.
He may not even hold his own.
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Sky officially called it as well.
No1@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Sky has crossed to Tony Abbott
The beams have crossed and Albo lost
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
"Lets just wait for the numbers to come in"
Yeah fuck off James. No one likes a sore loser.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
I'm abso-fucking-lutely stoked at this result...
... but how have they called it already with only 2 seats declared ?
veroxii@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
Maths and statistics
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
Sure but wouldn't those same maths and statistics allow electorates to be called?
I think maybe the ABC's website coverage is stuck.
No1@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Fake maths and statistics and science and facts!
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 1y
The libs were already not in government and combined with a huge swing against them and no real gains means pretty clear it's over quickly
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Screen still down. Lol
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Pen and paper like the good old times.
ziltoid101@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
As a Perthlet, I'm pretty happy overall. Only real disappointment is Canning; would have thought it's within Labor's grasp but currently looks like a 5% swing against Labor, even after sitting MP Andrew Hastie said we should give our mineral stockpiles to Trump to stop the tarriffs. Any Mandurah locals have some insight into the sentiment - is it the Keep The Sheep campaign maybe?
ziltoid101@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Actually, now that I dig deeper, I see that Canning has an 8% swing to One Nation, dayum...
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Its definitely gona be Keep the Sheep for part of it. I'm surprised it wasn't more of an issue in the end.
A friend, (not a farmer), at the start of the WA election campaign was getting hot under the collar about Labor's live export ban. I said to him, "this is a minority issue, its hardly going to touch the sides in terms of political issues."
I stand by that comment, but man, they're a noisy bloody minority! They certainly made me feel i's gona have to eat my words.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Here in Albany those fucking keep the sheep signs are everywhere, a noisy minority indeed.
Personally I'm not sympathetic. Farmers just have a lot of tax concessions. It's been plain to see for years that live export was going to stop sooner or later. If you were exposed to that risk, well, you should have taken action to manage it.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah, they've been insane all over my area as well. I struggle to remember any campaign that has been so active.
I haven't read an argument for it that doesn't rely in the greater part on emotion. I've seen very little sober argument for the negative effects of the ban.
The key argument i've read is it delivers the industry into an abbotoir monopoly, this is undoubtedly a problem, which is in old Economic parlance a market failure. I'm slowly going to the Mariana Mazzucato view of Economics, so i see the live export closure as an opportunity for market shaping, by the stakeholders, gov, busines individuals, farmers, involved in it.
An idea the WA Government should consider is a government owned abbotoir which can set a steady floor on the prices farmers get for the sheep. Sorry if i get a little gross hereafter. But the meat from this abbotoir doesn't necessarily have to find a profitable buyer, but can be used to deliver high protein food to disadvantaged communities here, and internationally. Abbotoir meat purchases could constitute a part of the Australian international food aid budget, or sent out to aboriginal communities, food shelters in the city, or island communities or nations in the pacific.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Ah, sorry... the "negative effects of the ban" are the deleterious effects on graziers. There are many farmers who had a flock worth $500k which is now worth $100k. Some large graziers are not breeding more sheep because they can't sell the ones they have.
A lot of these operations are big businesses and in some cases the existing format just isn't viable any more.
As I said I'm not very sympathetic because that's just how things go if you want to run a business, but it's definitely a big deal for some people.
For example, a farmer might be in their late 60s and saying "I've been working with sheep for 50 years and it's all I know" and for their farm to continue they need to transition to cropping or some such.
One silly argument against live export that I heard some people parroting is that if Australia doesn't do it some other country will and the standards of care for the sheep will be much lower than ours. That's just bullshit IMO.
The requirement for live export is, as in all things, a money thing. It's cheaper to ship them live because you don't need refrigeration, and you don't need Australian-Standards-Compliant abattoirs paying Australian wages.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Yeah, there's definitely a risk premium that can come into proceedings where decisions and their implementations are rolling through quickly, can't think of a specific international example.............. oh wait, yes i can :)..., but the policy for the live export ban is super slow, predictable and with plenty of finacial supports.
Even if that did happen, big if, thats happening all over the world in all kinds of areas. We can only control what we do, and attempt to set a better example where we can. It is such a bullshit, and cynical argument. As soon as i hear that, i generally start thinking the other person is debating in bad faith.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
I actually just had a read of some of the submissions from farmers.
I'll be honest in that they do raise some compelling points. Notably, as a major exporter Australia presently sets the standard of care for all nations, so I think there is some truth to the idea that animals will suffer more after we withdraw.
However, I hadn't realised that a phase out is in place. 3 years doesn't seem an unreasonable period in which to transition.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
That is an interesting perspective. A kind of standard setter position can be hard to quantify. Is it better to be in the tent or outside.
But thats really been the heart of the issue for over a decade, its a key decision that i wish the emotional barbs would give more space to, because its omportant to get right.
I'll say the industry was put on notice during the Gillard Government over live sheep export that thjbgs needed to change, and a lot of changes seemed to be made from Austraoia's end.
But the underlying issues after hand over i can't see have changed much. So isuppose you could take that as a point against that case that Australias influence lifts the standards of all in this area. But thats a circumstantial point at best.
ziltoid101@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Durack has a 7% swing away from Labor (against the trend of the whole state), I think it's safe to say that Keep The Sheep was successful in regional areas. However it doesn't seem to have had much effect in the metro, aside from Canning if you include that.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
dockedatthewrongworf@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
So happy with the result this election. Hopefully a sign of elections to come!
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 4 pts · 1y
Lol snip
veroxii@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
And there the ABC call is.
No1@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Did this new ABC guy white ant Antony Green?
I'm so pissed off for Antony!
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Briggs? I tuned in late, what happened?
Edit: Read a couple more comments, computer said no, was it?
gedhrel@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
As someone watching from the other side of the world - is this another election victory that can be chalked up to Trump?
RomulusAugustus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
With this kind of a swing, and the opposition leader losing his seat, it does seem that way, at least in part. But many people don't like Dutton either I think.
gedhrel@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Just wish the Labour party in the UK would learn from this rather than triangulating with Farage's fucking racist bullshit.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
If Labour take anything from this election its that Starmer should walk into his cabinet room tomorrow/this morning and put all his chips on electoral reform.
Top of the list, 'soft mandatory' voting. He's surely got the numbers in Parliament, he's already quite unpopular, and he's probably someone you could trust to deliver electoral reform that represents what the people in a given election want, not skew ot to what a Party wants.
The Conservatives would never do electoral reform, and if they did, theres no-one there that could be technocratic enough to be reliable. So it could be the UK's best chance in a long time.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Absolutely not. Mandatory voting is great, but the number one two and three thing is voting system reform. They had an IRV referendum a few years back and it failed. Maybe they could take MMP to the people in the future and get more support, and leapfrog is into having an even better system.
But with the rise of Reform over there, I'm not sure they'd want to risk giving smaller parties a path to electoral success.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Na, you need to get the people to the booths, otherwise your always pumping for turnout each election cycle.
Without mandatory voting a dissafected electorate will be more likely to not vote as their message to the politicians in a given election, than send a message by voting. In those circumstances, which the UK is finding itself in a lot! (Brexit included here.) You need to demand the populace make their voices heard.
There is a practical reason, MMP, IRV, whatever you choose are far more complicated to explain than, 'you must vote, or i'll hit you over the head with some parsley.' Mandatory voting is simple to understand, and demands voters become more engaged, which would help with further reform.
Smaller parties have to have a path to success, a party of Government needs to be theoretically possible for them all. Genuine electoral reform would need to account for that, otherwise they'd fail to live up to the demands of democratic governance. But this is why I say as an unpopular technocrat, Starmer could be in a rare position here.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Under FPTP? No, they don't. Not a realistic one, anyway.
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Yeah, agreed. I's not defending their current system. I's arguing for political bias to be taken out of a theoretical election reform process as much as possible.
gedhrel@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Choice-ranking systems aren't hard to explain: "put these people in the order you prefer them".
The anti-AV campaign had Cameron reading out an algorithm for the vote counting process in a dull voice and trying to establish: "yes well I went to Eton and although I am very clever I find this difficult". The AV referendum failed in large part because it was a LibDem thing and people wanted to give Clegg a shoeing for going back on his election pledges. (That Clegg got outplayed by Cameron tells you everything you need to know about what a useless chancer he is.)
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Well, put it this way, whats harder?
Everybody of voting age has to vote.
Or (for example),
Number the candidates in order of most preferred. (Ranked Choice)
I think the first one is simpler to communicate than the second, and in an electoral reform decision like this simplicity of communication is very important.
But thats my point, not that IRV or MMP, et al, are uniquely hard or complicated to understand.
RomulusAugustus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Maybe with their second term. Plenty of time for the Trump effect to happen.
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y
I think Trump was a contribution. The conservative opposition were leading the polls but lost their mojo in the last couple of months
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Our progressive party probably would have creaked through to a minority victory but this is a historic victory and we have brutalised the conservatives, and that's due to Trump.
eureka@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 1y
Looking at the Wikipedia page of election polling over time, just like Canada, there is a strong clear drop after the US inauguration.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 3 pts · 1y
Yeah Jim, look for some corn while you're up there!
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
I'll be interested to see who pops up to position themselves as the leader of whoever loses...
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Godam, don't you clowns jinx Antony's last call!
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 3 pts · 1y
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Jeebus, calm down ABC. It's 5% counted.
No1@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Sky are just cutting down Dutton like he's a zombie lol
One of the dumb, slow moving ones.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1y
Well, it's the biggest thumping we've seen in a long while and it's on him.
NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org · 3 pts · 1y
Did she say chemical Ali?
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Release the Kraken (the pre-poll votes)
GiovanniBruzzolini@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Oh wow! Tony Abbot on sky news showing us all that he belongs in the bin. Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjdWZFa8_jM
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
They're really terrible at losing.
It kinda sounds like he's saying that voters have made the wrong choice, and that more of the same from LNP next time round will win government for them.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
CUT OFF
veroxii@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Okay results starting to flow now.
PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Some big swings early as well
veroxii@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah things are looking pretty good actually. Goodbye boomers.