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c/electricvehicles · by schizoidman@lemmy.zip · 1y

‘The Most Humbling Thing I’ve Ever Seen’: Ford CEO On China’s Car Industry

https://insideevs.com/news/764318/ford-ceo-china-evs-humbled/

Ford CEO Jim Farley said Chinese cars have "far superior" technology, lower costs and great quality.

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homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 1y (5 replies)

“Huawei and Xiaomi are in every car,” Farley said, referring to two of China’s tech giants. “You get in, you don’t have to pair your phone. Automatically, your whole digital life is mirrored in the car. You have an AI companion that you can talk to … All the automatic payment is already there. You can buy movie tickets. It has facial recognition so it knows who’s in which seat and which media you like.”

It’s hard to express just how much I don’t want that.

grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 1y

Same. It's impossible to communicate without screaming, and maybe lighting my clothes on fire.

axx@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 1y

And how inconfortable it makes that other people think this is desirable, especially people in positions of power.

TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

Help. I'm convulsing.

Empricorn@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 1y

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y

VW Tavascan has zero connected services here in Australia.

acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 44 pts · 1y (2 replies)

“You get in, you don’t have to pair your phone. Automatically, your whole digital life is mirrored in the car. You have an AI companion that you can talk to … All the automatic payment is already there. You can buy movie tickets. It has facial recognition so it knows who’s in which seat and which media you like.”

If that's not a cyberpunk privacy nightmare, I don't know what is.

Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I'm so glad the Slate truck is so simply made it can't even support a SIM card. It's the one modern car that's just a car.

acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 1y

Oh man. I didn't know it existed, and now I know it still doesn't. 🙁

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 1y

And that’s why they will never be available in North America.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 23 pts · 1y (7 replies)
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Poach@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Don't worry they're too big to fail, they'll just get more handouts from the government. Like banning Chinese EVa

axx@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1y

And remember kids, protectionism is bad (except for when we do it).

NoPanko@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 1y (4 replies)

I mean its not like Chinese car companies got there without significant help from their government either.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 11 pts · 1y (3 replies)
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NoPanko@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 1y

Oh 100% i agree. And we know where the money went. Just look at how many more billionaires there are these days

pg_jglr@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Don't forget about cheap labor over there, economies of scale with the large Chinese market, and with a very different regulatory environment. The American auto industry has an uphill battle ahead of them.

Not to excuse the lack of innovation here, I personally blame the trend of wealth extraction for executive pay and shareholder returns at the expense of long term thinking and reduced R&D spending.

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y

Don't forget about cheap labor over there

Thays not really true, it's the automation.

For example

https://www.theenergymix.com/automation-not-cheap-labour-drives-chinas-solar-and-battery-edge-ritchie/

magnetosphere@fedia.io · 21 pts · 1y (3 replies)

So basically Ford is admitting “We really have to compete again, and make GOOD products that people actually WANT. Nobody here remembers how to do that, so we’re reverse-engineering products from China.”

Great job!

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · -1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

You should read the article.

Fjdybank@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1y

That's literally what the article says

Farley said he brings his whole leadership team on his trips to the country, where they drive as many of the latest cars that they can.
“Then we pick the four or five that we love and then we put them on a plane and fly them to Detroit. And then we drive the crap out of them, and then we take them apart and we put them back together,” he said.

magnetosphere@fedia.io · 5 pts · 1y

I did