I'm not colorblind and it's just not visible. Most of the country is red, and then NY/Philly area is blue. Also southern florida where the NYers live, northern Minnesota for some reason, and sparely throughout new england, all also blue. Majority of country is red but with an unexplained shading that goes from low saturation to high.
if you squint really hard there's a white-ish area overlapping Alabama and Mississippi that looks like it might be greenish white.
A few minutes before the services started, the townspeople were sitting in their pews and talking. Suddenly, Satan appeared at the front of the church. Everyone started screaming and running for the front entrance, trampling each other in a frantic effort to get away from evil incarnate.
Soon everyone had exited the church except for one elderly gentleman who sat calmly in his pew without moving, seeming oblivious to the fact that God's ultimate enemy was in his presence.
So Satan walked up to the old man and said, "Don't you know who I am?" The man replied, "Yep, sure do."
"Aren't you afraid of me?" Satan asked.
"Nope, sure ain't," said the man.
"Don't you realize I can kill you with a word?" asked Satan.
"Don't doubt it for a minute," returned the old man, in an even tone.
"Did you know that I could cause you profound, horrifying, physical AGONY... for all eternity?" persisted Satan.
"Yep," was the calm reply.
"And you're still not afraid?" asked Satan.
"Nope."
More than a little perturbed, Satan asked, "Well, why aren't you afraid of me?"
The man calmly replied, "Been married to your sister for the last 48 years!!..
I’m from the Deep South. You couldn’t tell by my accent. I moved away for college and lived overseas and on both coasts. I didn’t know what a “sun shower” was until I was in my mid/late twenties and said “the devil is beating his wife” in front of my friends. That’s the only term for it I had ever heard up to that point.
damn. i was like 55% certain that this was a shitpost and no one actually said that until i read your comment. we almost got a shitpost on c/shitpost. maybe it's not too late to get a meme on c/meme
Are you me? This is very similar to my story regarding this phrase. I have just heard the phrase associated with the situation. Not that rain falling while the sun is out is CALLED the devil is beating his wife. Rather, it's just the indicator somehow.
It's worth noting that the Times released this tool a decade ago. IIRC, around 2015 there was also a push for better colorblind friendly color palettes, especially on the heat map space (I remember watching a matplotlib demo, maybe, with viridis support). While there's many visualization practices we do better at now, and while this could be due for a redux, I still think it"s one of the best interactives to date. It's an OG for sure.
That's fun, and it's a much better use of heatmap since it's just a binary scale (least-most similar). When we're showing discrete options rather than a continuous "similarity" we don't want to use heatmaps because they cause undesirable blurring.
Really what the OP is trying to do is show which areas use which phrases. A heatmap could have been used where we have multiple visualizations - one for each phrase - using "Popularity" to show smooth distribution. I assume that the source data is not by county level and instead aggregated so the choropleth never would have worked great.
Funny, but we use the same thing about the Devil beating his wife in Romania as well. At least in Transylvania we do. It's surprising to see this being used in the US as well. I wonder where it originated from.
I grew up in the CA bay area and always called them sunshowers. I didn't make that up: I called them sunshowers when I was a kid because the people around me called them sunshowers.
As an aside, I also taught linguistics at the university level for about 10 years. I do question the accuracy of many of Katz's charts because they very often do not match people's expectations, and beyond the level of "you expected this because you didn't know any better". I would take them with a grain of salt. That's not really a dig on Katz, either: difficult to study anything at this scale.
Grew up in Georgia. My mom would refer to it as the devil beating his wife. She got it from her mom who presumably got it from her parents. I have no idea why that expression, never got an answer for that.
I've mostly heard some variation on sunshower in Texas because while they're not common, they're not super rare either. We also rarely get "sun-derstorms" (dunno what else to call it) in Texas.
I hadn't heard the Wolf's wife part, but I'd always heard said that it was a "Fox's wedding". Which is pretty similar. I've heard sunshower and that "The Devil's beating his wife" but the fox one was more fun so it stuck with me.
I'm also from Arizona, been here my whole life, and I have no word for this. I haven't ever heard anyone say sunshower either. Different circles maybe.
It happens very frequently in Florida, I know of it as a sunshower. It not unheard of for your FoV to be filled with blue sky but it's actively raining... that is when people mention sunshower. I've heard the devil is beating his wife but only rarely.
I have a theory that this has a special name less frequently the further you get from the equator because it's a phenomenon that's less rare when the sun spends less time overhead
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JJROKCZ@lemmy.world · 92 pts · 3y
I just call it raining. There doesn’t need to be a certain term for everything ever, we’re not German lol
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 58 pts · 3y
Am german. We do not have a word for this either. It’s just raining.
Of course you can always make one up due to how our language works, but that’s just to dumbfound Americans online.
AwwTopsy@lemm.ee · 19 pts · 3y
Doch, dh ja Sonnenregen!
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 3y
Nachtregen, Abendschauer, geht alles!
Sooperstition@lemmy.one · 10 pts · 3y
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
pooberbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 3y
☠️
PineapplePartisan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Eichhörnchenimbisszeitregen
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 3y
-- Mark Twain
wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 3y
Ah, a glimpse into the German agenda!
snor10@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
It's funny how german always caught this flack online when the nordic languages are the exact same, we concatenate words on the fly all the time.
Solskensregn in this case, sunshine rain.
hglman@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 3y
I call it, its raining and the sun is out
Halosheep@lemm.ee · 57 pts · 3y
This would be a lot funnier if there were enough pixels to differentiate the colors in the legend...
bob_wiley@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3y
SCB@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3y
Like 5-8 towns each from Louisiana through alabama
Even when not colorblind it's not very easy to see
bob_wiley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 3y
I'm not colorblind and it's just not visible. Most of the country is red, and then NY/Philly area is blue. Also southern florida where the NYers live, northern Minnesota for some reason, and sparely throughout new england, all also blue. Majority of country is red but with an unexplained shading that goes from low saturation to high.
if you squint really hard there's a white-ish area overlapping Alabama and Mississippi that looks like it might be greenish white.
eldoom@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 3y
I call it the devil beating his wife if that helps.
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3y
Sorry, it's moldy
bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 3y
The devil one is green, I think the Bible Belt is just barely tinged green.
teft@startrek.website · 41 pts · 3y
The devil is married?
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 3y
To a women no less
jkmooney@kbin.social · 12 pts · 3y
"His wife" could be a....let's say, "euphemism" for something else. In which case, that ain't rainwater falling.....
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
He beat pee pee?
MyDogLovesMe@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3y
A few minutes before the services started, the townspeople were sitting in their pews and talking. Suddenly, Satan appeared at the front of the church. Everyone started screaming and running for the front entrance, trampling each other in a frantic effort to get away from evil incarnate.
Soon everyone had exited the church except for one elderly gentleman who sat calmly in his pew without moving, seeming oblivious to the fact that God's ultimate enemy was in his presence.
So Satan walked up to the old man and said, "Don't you know who I am?" The man replied, "Yep, sure do."
"Aren't you afraid of me?" Satan asked.
"Nope, sure ain't," said the man.
"Don't you realize I can kill you with a word?" asked Satan.
"Don't doubt it for a minute," returned the old man, in an even tone.
"Did you know that I could cause you profound, horrifying, physical AGONY... for all eternity?" persisted Satan.
"Yep," was the calm reply.
"And you're still not afraid?" asked Satan.
"Nope."
More than a little perturbed, Satan asked, "Well, why aren't you afraid of me?"
The man calmly replied, "Been married to your sister for the last 48 years!!..
contextual_somebody@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 3y
I’m from the Deep South. You couldn’t tell by my accent. I moved away for college and lived overseas and on both coasts. I didn’t know what a “sun shower” was until I was in my mid/late twenties and said “the devil is beating his wife” in front of my friends. That’s the only term for it I had ever heard up to that point.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
damn. i was like 55% certain that this was a shitpost and no one actually said that until i read your comment. we almost got a shitpost on c/shitpost. maybe it's not too late to get a meme on c/meme
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
Are you me? This is very similar to my story regarding this phrase. I have just heard the phrase associated with the situation. Not that rain falling while the sun is out is CALLED the devil is beating his wife. Rather, it's just the indicator somehow.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Yes, that is why it happens
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 3y
Devil beating his wife sounds deep south as fuck...
Limeey@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 3y
This is a terrific example of where a choropleth (Ideally by county) would have been much more effective than a heat map.
lolgcat@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 3y
It's worth noting that the Times released this tool a decade ago. IIRC, around 2015 there was also a push for better colorblind friendly color palettes, especially on the heat map space (I remember watching a matplotlib demo, maybe, with viridis support). While there's many visualization practices we do better at now, and while this could be due for a redux, I still think it"s one of the best interactives to date. It's an OG for sure.
Limeey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
That's fun, and it's a much better use of heatmap since it's just a binary scale (least-most similar). When we're showing discrete options rather than a continuous "similarity" we don't want to use heatmaps because they cause undesirable blurring.
Really what the OP is trying to do is show which areas use which phrases. A heatmap could have been used where we have multiple visualizations - one for each phrase - using "Popularity" to show smooth distribution. I assume that the source data is not by county level and instead aggregated so the choropleth never would have worked great.
Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 3y
Fuck yeah let's convert some sunlight to .. oh you said.. nevermind
febra@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 3y
Funny, but we use the same thing about the Devil beating his wife in Romania as well. At least in Transylvania we do. It's surprising to see this being used in the US as well. I wonder where it originated from.
Apparently the first time this was used was in France 1703. More info here: https://www.theidioms.com/the-devil-is-beating-his-wife/
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 3y
That's interesting... because those green areas are all old French settlements.
Hazdaz@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 3y
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
You keep that devilry to yourself
Hazdaz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Gladly!
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org · 20 pts · 3y
I grew up in the CA bay area and always called them sunshowers. I didn't make that up: I called them sunshowers when I was a kid because the people around me called them sunshowers.
As an aside, I also taught linguistics at the university level for about 10 years. I do question the accuracy of many of Katz's charts because they very often do not match people's expectations, and beyond the level of "you expected this because you didn't know any better". I would take them with a grain of salt. That's not really a dig on Katz, either: difficult to study anything at this scale.
Psythik@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 3y
Same for AZ. This map sucks.
ivanafterall@kbin.social · 15 pts · 3y
I believe it's a Golden Shower
bauhaus@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 3y
no, that’s just a golf resort in South Florida and one hotel room in Moscow.
janAkali@lemmy.one · 14 pts · 3y
In russian we have a phrase "грибной дождь" (mushroom rain) for light warm rain in the sunshine.
It's the best weather for mushroom growth and is therefore a sign to go harvest them in the woods soon.
radix@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
I like this a lot. It's cute-sounding and has a history.
RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 3y
GhostsAreShitty@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Right? I'm in the great lakes region and that's what I've always called it.
bob_wiley@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
danwardvs@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
dragoness@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 3y
Backwoods Virginian and that's what we called it.
Bobert@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Southeast here and have heard it said the devil's beating his wife commonly
Sabre363@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 3y
What is this "rain" you speak of.
robocall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
Hello southwest
VonReposti@feddit.dk · 6 pts · 3y
What is this "sun" you speak of.
bauhaus@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 3y
hello Northwest
TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3y
bauhaus@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 3y
Brooklyn, baby!
I was responding to the weather thing, not calling out my location, lol ツ
fwiw, it’s been unusually rainy here lately
TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3y
bauhaus@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 3y
sorry for the unintentional misdirect!
son_named_bort@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y
Grew up in Georgia. My mom would refer to it as the devil beating his wife. She got it from her mom who presumably got it from her parents. I have no idea why that expression, never got an answer for that.
Freitag@feddit.de · 0 pts · 3y
Here is the answer https://www.theidioms.com/the-devil-is-beating-his-wife/
linuxgator@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 3y
I'm Florida we call it 4pm.
ItsMyFirstDay@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3y
Monkey's wedding.
anarchyrabbit@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 3y
I thought this was the only one. TIL....
Genrawir@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3y
Apparently I'm from an area that uses sunshower, but I've always heard it called the devil beating his wife
MooseLad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
We've always called them sunshowers, but according to the map we're in an area that has no name for it.
MossyFeathers@pawb.social · 8 pts · 3y
I've mostly heard some variation on sunshower in Texas because while they're not common, they're not super rare either. We also rarely get "sun-derstorms" (dunno what else to call it) in Texas.
glibg10b@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 3y
Fox marries Wolf's wife
Rheios@ttrpg.network · 1 pts · 3y
I hadn't heard the Wolf's wife part, but I'd always heard said that it was a "Fox's wedding". Which is pretty similar. I've heard sunshower and that "The Devil's beating his wife" but the fox one was more fun so it stuck with me.
Squander@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3y
Professor: And Josh what is your thesis about?
Josh: Urrmmmm ahh umm What do you call it when rain falls while the sun is shining?
Professor: Josh youre studying statistics.
Josh: Yeah, naw Im going to graph it.
Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 3y
Verizon coverage map links up with this data. Coincidence??
Crapattf2@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 3y
In the UK , well the part of the UK I live in we say "it's a monkey's birthday"
Well more actually most of the time we don't say anything about it all
Roundcat@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 3y
Meanwhile, me and my siblings: "It's raining sunshine!"
Psythik@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 3y
This map is inaccurate. I'm from Arizona and "sunshower" is commonly used here.
QuinceDaPence@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y
Yup. SE Texas and it's "Devil is beating his wife" here.
andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun · 1 pts · 3y
I'm also from Arizona, been here my whole life, and I have no word for this. I haven't ever heard anyone say sunshower either. Different circles maybe.
Ackerthegod@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
Donjuanme@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
I guess Hawaiian sunshine is just a thing my family uses...
SharpMaxwell@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 3y
green, I dont live anywhere near that area tho, i just remember someone talking about it online when i was young and it stuck with me
Lexica@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Theodd1sout maybe?
skunk@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 3y
I’ve always called it liquid sunshine
ivanafterall@kbin.social · 3 pts · 3y
That sounds like a euphemism for pee.
MrQuallzin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
That's what I say as well up here in the Pacific Northwest
ox0r@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 3y
Where I'm from we say it is 'carnival in hell'
klemptor@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 3y
It's a sunshower (also, hoagie and pork roll).
Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 3y
Pennsylvanian spotted.
Anyway it's a grinder
klemptor@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3y
Ha, close! I'm originally from NJ.
meanmon13@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 3y
It happens very frequently in Florida, I know of it as a sunshower. It not unheard of for your FoV to be filled with blue sky but it's actively raining... that is when people mention sunshower. I've heard the devil is beating his wife but only rarely.
OkToBeTakei@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 3y
rockSlayer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
I've never heard any word or phrase for this, but sunshower just seems intuitive to me
NeighborOfTheBeast@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y
I'm going with "rainshine" but maybe thats just me
db2@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 3y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshower
ngwoo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
I have a theory that this has a special name less frequently the further you get from the equator because it's a phenomenon that's less rare when the sun spends less time overhead
Skoobie@lemmy.film · 3 pts · 3y
So it's from the French who took it from a poem about Greek gods. So the Christians stole from the pagans yet again lol.
jsheradin@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y
Crazy that nearly every culture on earth has a name for it that's somehow related to animals getting married.
Wonder if they all stem from the same ancient folk tail or if it's just somehow convergence.
columns_columns@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 3y
We always said it was the devil’s daughter was getting married.
Aremel@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 3y
I felt like I was taking crazy pills until I came across this comment. I've always heard this one instead of the "beating his wife" one.
I've also heard some variations of this one like "a witch is marrying the devil" or "a witch is getting married".
I personally call them sunshowers.
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3y
Heard it called fox-rain.
bauhaus@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3y
so, it’s New Yorkers that say this, and places New Yorkers go when we retire or can’t afford to live in NYC anymore.
lol
JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com · 3 pts · 3y
The devil what?!?
ZagnutInSpace@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 3y
I've decided I hate the domestic violence one. One I heard a while back is "a monkey's wedding" and that has a much better mental image.
emmeram@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 3y
It’s always been, “The devil is getting married,” for me.
Lammy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
bilb@lem.monster · 2 pts · 3y
From Northeastern PA, and yeah I immediately thought "oh, a sunshower?"
But yeah, the devil doesn't have a wife wtf
son_named_bort@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Well then who the hell is he beating?
callyral@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y
it is the birth of rainbows
PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Rainbow weather.
ThatsTheSpirit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 3y
Sun shower here in PA
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 3y
GrumpyFortuneCat@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 3y
Wait. The Devil is above us doing an R Kelly? Does that mean god is in hell?
ChapolinColoradoNZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
"Sol e chuva = casamento de viúva"
Brisolo32@lemmy.eco.br · 2 pts · 3y
tuga?
ChapolinColoradoNZ@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
haha, não!