Damn, thanks for linking that report. I have appreciated devault's work for almost a decade, this is a good reminder that just because someone's public actions align with my values does not automatically mean they are infallible nor should they be canonized.
Ok my deleted message was:
"Saying gay as a synonym for bad or weird is homophobic."
But I'm not really sure if it is in the context you were saying in, this could be taken as a stance in terms of making fun of people who say gay as a synonym for bad or weird. In which case it is totally ok to be mean to homophobes.
I think they were just making a joke because git.gay.
As in, not as bad or weird but more making fun of the homophobic "it's gay" argument that used to be used.
I do the same thing with my spousy occasionally. We're gay as hell, so it's funny as shit when I stroll by their room and just say, "Gaaaaaaaay~". Lol.
I just hope people wake up to the fact that at this point GitHub became a social network that just has a code repository attached to it. Anything you care about should be replicated and self host where you can.
I always interpreted that to be in an open source sharing code kinda social projects for the betterment of everyone. What it became was people spamming PRs to get minor fixes or merged to pad their resume. Showing contribution heat maps like its a an extension of your resume or getting achievements like it's a video game.
I just migrated my personal projects to Codeberg (and sent a donation their way too!). As soon as I update the origins on my servers I'll be deleting my GitHub account.
The one FOSS project I contribute to was already being hosted on GitLab to begin with. And my work just announced we'll be migrating to GitLab as well.
Got banned for telling some one "fuck you you neonazi apologizer". Apparently it was permanent banning offense, even after appealing. Lol.
They didn't ban the other dude. I guess he technically didn't say anything that was violated the rules of reddit. All he did was justify the actions of white supremacist in the past for all the non-white people colonization, murdering and plundering, describing it as a product of time, but at the same timez he was also not okay with white people colonization.
Reddit has become so sterile, all the comments look the same and reposted, i dont think ppl post there anymore 😂. And bunch of dead subs. Really different place that it used to be. Lemmy is much better place
Sometimes I was just being ironic or just joking. A few advertisements were being made over the grounded F-35 in India. I joked that its departure would be like the moon landings all over again and broadcasted similarly all over India.
They hated it. Thought I was being serious. Despite an edit to make it clearer, I still got the Reddit ban hammer.
I deleted my account the same day. A 15 year or more account.
It doesn’t (yet, Trump has sort of said they could buy it). The OP was talking about a British F-35B that had a technical issue and got stranded due to a missing part to fix it.
What's even more hilarious is that my comment was reported and myself banned for 'hate speech'. That's when I knew Reddit is fucked and I'm never going back.
I knew that part and assumed they were training on repos, but I didn't know they linked them so directly internally. Like this is the most important asset. Train on every push kinda thing.
I was expecting that as well but somehow Microsoft botched it. Training on failed commits should be the most invaluable asset. Yet their internally developed models (Phi) are lagging back of the competitors.
Blender developers moved from Phabricator to their own Gitea instance, about two years ago now. They worked to bring some features to Main that were missing apparently (can't tell you which), and as far as I can tell it seems to be functionally identical.
Codeberg (and Forgejo in general) is the nicest code forge I have ever used.
GitLab has horrible UI/UX. Is slow as hell and so heavy that self-hosting is a strain on compute resources. The layout of the sidebar makes finding what you care about slow.
Forgejo is slick as hell, very light on resources, and does virtually everything GitLab or GitHub does. Looks pretty much identical to GitHub with a clean coat of paint, but the UI runs so much faster in the browser.
The only downside to Codeberg and Forgejo is having to roll your own CI actions.
Forgejo makes migrating projects such a breeze too. You can transfer everything you have on GitHub in under 10 minutes. Forgejo is also working on implementing the ForgeFed spec, which will enable federated projects where people on other instances can create issues and otherwise interact with your project.
Seriously try out Forgejo with a couple projects, there is nothing you will miss about GitHub.
Never tried SourceHut, but it definitely seems lightweight from browsing repos hosted on a SourceHut instance. UI is different from other code forges to say the least.
GitLab: a lot of cool features, well-integrated, polished. Downsides: resource hog, open-core model (some features locked behind a paid license when self-hosting)
Forgejo (the thing that powers codeberg): it's federated & lighter on resources usage. Downsides: some features still missing/in development
No experience with Codeberg, personally. My team switched to GitLab at work a few months back and it’s been excellent. They are plenty of features to love, but the better CI/CD support and private package repositories were the deciding factor for us.
I also have good experiences with GitLab. It was very flexible and capable, yet focused. Codeberg seems to be a nice place, but I had trouble finding out its features as clearly as sourcehut had stated theirs. Sourcehut seems really good!
It is isn't it? I hope to see the these kinds of alternatives being the main way we interact with each other, Instead of billionaires controlling the very system the majority of earth's population relies on. I wonder how the Martians are doing (not a reference, just wanted to say that lol)
I still use GitHub due to the convenience, but a lot of folks on Lemmy like Codeberg. I also setup a Gitea mirror of my GitHub the other day and it’s pretty cool. Easy to self host
I think Forgejo with federation will take over in another 10 years. Microsoft and others will be forced to copy it similar to meta and bluesky corporate options adding federation.
Forgejo/Codeberg is also a non-profit cooperative so there should sustainability of mission there.
i selfhost gitlab for my own use. its similar to github, but is a bit of a resource hog and the project tracking is a bit wonky to use. i have heard gitea is really low resource usage, but has fewer features.
We run self-hosted versions of both Gitlab (ce and enterprise versions) and Gitea.
They're very different things, but broadly what you say is correct. Gitea is lighter, it comes as a single binary and is really fast in operation. For most people, most of Gitlab's featureset will never be used.
Keeping them up to date:
Gitlab has repos for most distros, so updating is really just letting it update alongside the OS. But it does that every two weeks and is very noisy about reminding all users the second that a new release has dropped. (So I get a bunch of emails about this critical new release) Features seem to change quite often.
Gitea has no repos, and doesn't self-update. However, I've written a script that checks and if it's a new version, then it'll download the new version and replace the single binary.
Both are pretty reliable at not introducing breaking changes when updating, I've not had many issues.
My last ban was for "Fostering and promoting race based hate and violence".
My comment resulting in the ban, I believe was "Fuck ICE and anyone who aids that white supremacist gestopo. Fight them via any and all means necessary".
While it has already been owned by micrsoft for a few years, the github ceo has now stepped down, leading to fears that it's going to enshittify even more.
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galoisghost@aussie.zone · 90 pts · 361d
Codeberg
GammaGames@beehaw.org · 17 pts · 361d
They want everything to be public with an open source license fwiw
paequ2@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 361d
Currently, I'm doing:
Although, I'm planning to get off sr.ht long term because...
Jayjader@jlai.lu · 6 pts · 361d
Damn, thanks for linking that report. I have appreciated devault's work for almost a decade, this is a good reminder that just because someone's public actions align with my values does not automatically mean they are infallible nor should they be canonized.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 361d
Well shit. I will still self-host sourcehut because it's so cool from a technical standpoint, but now with disgust for its author
anomie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 361d
git.gay is also a cool git host
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 21 pts · 361d
Idk sounds kinda gay
pineapple@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 361d
Ok my deleted message was: "Saying gay as a synonym for bad or weird is homophobic."
But I'm not really sure if it is in the context you were saying in, this could be taken as a stance in terms of making fun of people who say gay as a synonym for bad or weird. In which case it is totally ok to be mean to homophobes.
I'm kinda confused is this homophobic or not?
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 18 pts · 360d
To be gay is absolutely completely 100% fine. But it's also, like, really gay. Does that help?
Kertyna@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 360d
Stop already, you're gonna break their brain.
EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 361d
I think they were just making a joke because git.gay.
As in, not as bad or weird but more making fun of the homophobic "it's gay" argument that used to be used.
I do the same thing with my spousy occasionally. We're gay as hell, so it's funny as shit when I stroll by their room and just say, "Gaaaaaaaay~". Lol.
pineapple@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 361d
I just had a pretty intense argument with my friends about this and we ultimately came to the same conclusion as you pretty much.
pineapple@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 361d
DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org · 40 pts · 361d
Forgejo, Codeberg, Gitlab, or self-host.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 35 pts · 361d
should be pointed out that codeberg is just a hosted and branded instance of forgejo (nothing wrong with it just pointing it out)
lordnikon@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 361d
I just hope people wake up to the fact that at this point GitHub became a social network that just has a code repository attached to it. Anything you care about should be replicated and self host where you can.
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 360d
GitHub always claimed to be some kind of social network, their initial slogan was "social coding".
lordnikon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 360d
I always interpreted that to be in an open source sharing code kinda social projects for the betterment of everyone. What it became was people spamming PRs to get minor fixes or merged to pad their resume. Showing contribution heat maps like its a an extension of your resume or getting achievements like it's a video game.
borokov@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 361d
hushable@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 361d
I just migrated my personal projects to Codeberg (and sent a donation their way too!). As soon as I update the origins on my servers I'll be deleting my GitHub account.
The one FOSS project I contribute to was already being hosted on GitLab to begin with. And my work just announced we'll be migrating to GitLab as well.
Today is a good day
lostoncalantha@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 360d
I get banned on Reddit about once a week. I don't even post controversial statements. Lemmy is ten times better. Just wish there were more users.
pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe · 7 pts · 360d
Got banned for telling some one "fuck you you neonazi apologizer". Apparently it was permanent banning offense, even after appealing. Lol.
They didn't ban the other dude. I guess he technically didn't say anything that was violated the rules of reddit. All he did was justify the actions of white supremacist in the past for all the non-white people colonization, murdering and plundering, describing it as a product of time, but at the same timez he was also not okay with white people colonization.
Funny how things work.
lietuva@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 360d
Reddit has become so sterile, all the comments look the same and reposted, i dont think ppl post there anymore 😂. And bunch of dead subs. Really different place that it used to be. Lemmy is much better place
Admetus@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 360d
Sometimes I was just being ironic or just joking. A few advertisements were being made over the grounded F-35 in India. I joked that its departure would be like the moon landings all over again and broadcasted similarly all over India.
They hated it. Thought I was being serious. Despite an edit to make it clearer, I still got the Reddit ban hammer.
I deleted my account the same day. A 15 year or more account.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 360d
That's hilarious actually. Didn't know India got f-35 planes
sunbeam60@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 360d
It doesn’t (yet, Trump has sort of said they could buy it). The OP was talking about a British F-35B that had a technical issue and got stranded due to a missing part to fix it.
Admetus@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 360d
What's even more hilarious is that my comment was reported and myself banned for 'hate speech'. That's when I knew Reddit is fucked and I'm never going back.
KittiesInTheJungle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 360d
Im here now because of a reddit ban.
pugnaciousfarter@literature.cafe · -3 pts · 360d
200ok@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 361d
I'm OOTL. What's happening with GitHub?
monovergent@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 361d
Github now reports to Microsoft's AI division directly
wuphysics87@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 361d
Is that true?
jcb20165@kbin.melroy.org · 10 pts · 361d
Yep.. It was all over mastodon the other day when the CEO quit!
Mubelotix@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 360d
Yeah, and don't forget they work with ICE
Ugurcan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 361d
Microsoft bought GitHub like back in 2017.
wuphysics87@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 361d
I knew that part and assumed they were training on repos, but I didn't know they linked them so directly internally. Like this is the most important asset. Train on every push kinda thing.
Ugurcan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 361d
I was expecting that as well but somehow Microsoft botched it. Training on failed commits should be the most invaluable asset. Yet their internally developed models (Phi) are lagging back of the competitors.
200ok@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 360d
Ew
antrosapien@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 361d
In a one word... Enshittification
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 361d
movement of jah people
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 1 pts · 361d
What's jah people?
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 361d
It's a reference to Bob Marley's Exodus
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 360d
Codeberg.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 11 pts · 361d
Blender developers moved from Phabricator to their own Gitea instance, about two years ago now. They worked to bring some features to Main that were missing apparently (can't tell you which), and as far as I can tell it seems to be functionally identical.
comfy@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 360d
Around how long ago was this? IIRC Forgejo is a fork of Gitea.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 360d
Almost 3 years now : https://code.blender.org/2022/07/gitea-diaries-part-1/
Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 361d
Gitlab
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d
GitLab vs Codeberg, go!
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 360d
Codeberg (and Forgejo in general) is the nicest code forge I have ever used.
GitLab has horrible UI/UX. Is slow as hell and so heavy that self-hosting is a strain on compute resources. The layout of the sidebar makes finding what you care about slow.
Forgejo is slick as hell, very light on resources, and does virtually everything GitLab or GitHub does. Looks pretty much identical to GitHub with a clean coat of paint, but the UI runs so much faster in the browser.
The only downside to Codeberg and Forgejo is having to roll your own CI actions.
Forgejo makes migrating projects such a breeze too. You can transfer everything you have on GitHub in under 10 minutes. Forgejo is also working on implementing the ForgeFed spec, which will enable federated projects where people on other instances can create issues and otherwise interact with your project.
Seriously try out Forgejo with a couple projects, there is nothing you will miss about GitHub.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 359d
Thanks so much for the detailed response!
I was already on both GitLab and Codeberg actually, but now I feel confident moving entirely to Codeberg. ❤️
You wouldn't happen to have tried SourceHut as well, have you?
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 353d
Never tried SourceHut, but it definitely seems lightweight from browsing repos hosted on a SourceHut instance. UI is different from other code forges to say the least.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 353d
Yeah. Shame there's practically no free plan, but glad to see there are interesting alternatives.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 361d
GitLab: a lot of cool features, well-integrated, polished. Downsides: resource hog, open-core model (some features locked behind a paid license when self-hosting)
Forgejo (the thing that powers codeberg): it's federated & lighter on resources usage. Downsides: some features still missing/in development
Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 361d
No experience with Codeberg, personally. My team switched to GitLab at work a few months back and it’s been excellent. They are plenty of features to love, but the better CI/CD support and private package repositories were the deciding factor for us.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 361d
I also have good experiences with GitLab. It was very flexible and capable, yet focused. Codeberg seems to be a nice place, but I had trouble finding out its features as clearly as sourcehut had stated theirs. Sourcehut seems really good!
sexy_peach@feddit.org · 9 pts · 361d
You could host your own gitea if your into that kind of thing.
pineapple@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 361d
I've done a bit of research and forjego is seemingly the better version of gitea.
Its a fork of Gitea by the community after Gitea started doing some suspicious things, I can't remember what they are.
beppe@beehaw.org · 2 pts · 361d
i never heard of forjego so i looked it up, feel a bit stupid now after just migrating to self hosted gitea ;_;
Apparently gitea was bought by a private company without listening to community feedback on this decision.
https://forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/
Mubelotix@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 360d
Forgejo is Gitea with federation (work in progress)
portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 360d
Self host or hosted? Self host: forgejo, soft-serve, gitea, bare repos on a server
Hosted: codeberg, gitlab
Kwiuu@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 360d
Want to mention tangled.sh
ArtixCory@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 360d
I created an account, but then realized I could use my existing bluesky account that's registered to my own PDS. Intriguing.
Kwiuu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 359d
It is isn't it? I hope to see the these kinds of alternatives being the main way we interact with each other, Instead of billionaires controlling the very system the majority of earth's population relies on. I wonder how the Martians are doing (not a reference, just wanted to say that lol)
moseschrute@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 361d
I still use GitHub due to the convenience, but a lot of folks on Lemmy like Codeberg. I also setup a Gitea mirror of my GitHub the other day and it’s pretty cool. Easy to self host
GammaGames@beehaw.org · 4 pts · 361d
Gitea is nice, the gh actions compatability is really handy
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 361d
I'm following so many good repos, hard to give up GH. But I can always migrate my own I suppose.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 361d
If you’re interested in mirroring your own
https://giteamirror.com/
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 360d
Nah I'd rather just delete them from GitHub, not mirror them. But thank you for the helpful suggestion! ❤️
Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 360d
I think Forgejo with federation will take over in another 10 years. Microsoft and others will be forced to copy it similar to meta and bluesky corporate options adding federation.
Forgejo/Codeberg is also a non-profit cooperative so there should sustainability of mission there.
solrize@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 361d
I've been self hosting but various projects have moved to codeberg. I like Savannah as it's more old-school but it's a bit selective about projects.
mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online · 6 pts · 360d
cerement@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 361d
natecox@programming.dev · 3 pts · 361d
Trogia@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 361d
Codeberg for sure! I only just made an account on it, but I'm planning to use it :)
AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d
i selfhost gitlab for my own use. its similar to github, but is a bit of a resource hog and the project tracking is a bit wonky to use. i have heard gitea is really low resource usage, but has fewer features.
digdilem@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 361d
We run self-hosted versions of both Gitlab (ce and enterprise versions) and Gitea.
They're very different things, but broadly what you say is correct. Gitea is lighter, it comes as a single binary and is really fast in operation. For most people, most of Gitlab's featureset will never be used.
Keeping them up to date:
Gitlab has repos for most distros, so updating is really just letting it update alongside the OS. But it does that every two weeks and is very noisy about reminding all users the second that a new release has dropped. (So I get a bunch of emails about this critical new release) Features seem to change quite often.
Gitea has no repos, and doesn't self-update. However, I've written a script that checks and if it's a new version, then it'll download the new version and replace the single binary.
Both are pretty reliable at not introducing breaking changes when updating, I've not had many issues.
mnhs1@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 360d
My last ban was for "Fostering and promoting race based hate and violence".
My comment resulting in the ban, I believe was "Fuck ICE and anyone who aids that white supremacist gestopo. Fight them via any and all means necessary".
I appealed, and the ban was upheld.
mnhs1@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 360d
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 360d
Apparently, ICE is "all white people" I guess.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 360d
Gitea?
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 361d
What's up with GitHub?
jxk@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 361d
While it has already been owned by micrsoft for a few years, the github ceo has now stepped down, leading to fears that it's going to enshittify even more.
jbaber@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 360d
https://sr.ht/ ?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 360d
better spelling
MissJinx@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 360d
Chatgpt lol