For Italians, "caffè" is just espresso. Then you have "americano", which is similar to filter coffee even though it's usually made by adding warm water to an espresso.
Then you have "ristretto", which is a shorter espresso.
An americano is indeed an espresso (sometimes double shot) with added hot water. Not Italy specific though, it's just a different thing than filter coffee - but it's true that in Italy you can usually get the former but not the latter.
Some other common coffees: lungo ("long", an espresso that's extracted for longer so it's a bit more "watery"), macchiato ("stained", an espresso with a bit of milk and foam in it, kinda like an espresso version of a cappuccino), macchiatone ("big macchiato", halfway between macchiato and cappuccino), corretto ("corrected", with a tiny bit of liquor, usually grappa or sambuca)
Starbucks already did it. They welcome all to order their more than 20 oz Venti, their medium Grande or their small Tall. Just don't pretend words have logical meanings while you drink your $10 burnt coffee.
Oh I definitely notice. When I try to suck up the buccatini like it's spaghetti it'll make some disguting mouth noises and I'm left with full lungs and half a mouthful of pasta dangling out of my mouth.
Good trolling!
I'm not even Italian and even I find this infuriating.
Like, call it pasta if you don't know the name is. Even my wife knows that spaghetti is a specific type of pasta and not the general name.
And she might forget the specific names of the Italian kind but you can be sure she is a stickler for specifics when it comes to the Chinese noodles!
See, I would call all those macaroni, that's the coverall for tube-shaped fork-sized pasta. Spaghetti are the long rounds. Linguine flats. And then all the big guys get their own names, manicotti, ravioli, and just stuffed shells, they probably got a band that ends in a vowel but it didn't make its way down to me from Grandma.
Compared to other cuisines, Italian is trash tier; not because it's not delicious, but because it just relies on cheese, fat, meat and carbs.
"Oh wow, this pasta sauce is so good" yea, it's made of cream, cheese and bacon, how was it going to taste, healthy?
Compare that to french cuisine where they put a bird inside the bladder of a livestock animal with wine and a billion native herbs, and steam it in that for 40 hours, where you actually have to have skill to make a culinary tradition.
Although Joël Robuchon can fuck off with his 50% butter 50% potato mashed patatos. No shit it tastes better than at home you prick, you might as well just put butter on a plate.
Ah yes the totally evil thing known as carbs, which can be broken down into 3 main types. Those being fiber (which you need to actually digest any food period), starches (which break down into the next category), and sugars (which is what powers your fucking body)!
Fats are like carbs and not inherently evil, it’s food it does not care for your human sense of morals. Which sense you brought up meat and cheese, yes those do have the more unhealthy saturated fats it is still fine to eat those in moderation. Both carry protein which actually makes you feel more full compared with other nutrients. So they these fatty foods can actually help you lose weight if you eat them.
Remember food doesn’t give a shit, it’s neither good nor evil and if you want to lose weight it’s best to eat reasonable portions of whatever makes you happy. As long as you run a calorie deficit then you can eat junk food and still lose weight.
Thanks for bringing scientific explanations to a joke about a lack of artisanal subtlety in a cuisine. The original statement was about over reliance on easily delicious things instead of vision and ingenuity. Not sure how differentiating between starches and fibers suddenly adds innovative herb combinations and laborious cooking techniques.
60 Comments
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 362d
Not even "pasta"? Tsk tsk.
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 25 pts · 362d
It's all 'pasta' in my house. Including the spaghetti.
Mok98@feddit.it · 36 pts · 362d
And it's correct, all spaghetti are pasta, but not all pasta is spaghetti
xkbx@startrek.website · 5 pts · 362d
Sgaphetti
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 361d
tomi000@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 361d
Thinking any pasta besides spaghetti is spaghetti requires some major mental gymnastics
LwL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d
Bucatini and linguine are pretty similar tbf
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 360d
Yeah, empty spaghetti, flat spaghetti... you could also add the thick spaghetti : spaghettoni.
Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 362d
My wife calls them "noods"(nudes). "Can you grab the pool noods? We're having sketti tonight."
TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 361d
Growing up, my dad would always pronounce it "pasketti", and he'd elaborate by saying "I can't pronounce spaghetti, so I have to say pasketti"
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.org · 17 pts · 361d
Pasta, yes. Spaghetti, no.
hark@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 361d
This plus all the different Italian names for coffee which, as far as I can tell, are mostly just describing the amount of dairy added.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 6 pts · 361d
Not only the amount of dairy.
For Italians, "caffè" is just espresso. Then you have "americano", which is similar to filter coffee even though it's usually made by adding warm water to an espresso.
Then you have "ristretto", which is a shorter espresso.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 361d
An americano is indeed an espresso (sometimes double shot) with added hot water. Not Italy specific though, it's just a different thing than filter coffee - but it's true that in Italy you can usually get the former but not the latter.
Some other common coffees: lungo ("long", an espresso that's extracted for longer so it's a bit more "watery"), macchiato ("stained", an espresso with a bit of milk and foam in it, kinda like an espresso version of a cappuccino), macchiatone ("big macchiato", halfway between macchiato and cappuccino), corretto ("corrected", with a tiny bit of liquor, usually grappa or sambuca)
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 360d
Just having bought an espresso machine and reading the coffee types listed...
Holy shit this is true, it's like eight types that only vary but dairy or even just the amount of "micro foam" on top.
PhAzE@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 360d
Well, if the coffee was in different shapes, they would give them all sorts of different names too, even if its the same thing across the board.
adminofoz@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 360d
Starbucks already did it. They welcome all to order their more than 20 oz Venti, their medium Grande or their small Tall. Just don't pretend words have logical meanings while you drink your $10 burnt coffee.
Gwot@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 361d
Gnocchis isn't pastas it's potatos
maccentric@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 361d
And pierogies?
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 361d
Its even older than pasta here in europe
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 13 pts · 362d
lunarul@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 361d
Which category do you place bucatini in?
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 10 pts · 361d
kartoffelsaft@programming.dev · 18 pts · 361d
Oh I definitely notice. When I try to suck up the buccatini like it's spaghetti it'll make some disguting mouth noises and I'm left with full lungs and half a mouthful of pasta dangling out of my mouth.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 361d
Is there a larger hole bucatini? I'm thinking I could use them for "environmental" straws.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 362d
And what's a Farfalle? Or is this a cheeky sex joke?
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 2 pts · 362d
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 361d
That's actually simple. Lasagne is a plane spaghetti.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 0 pts · 361d
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 361d
But that's the Lasagne dish not the pasta you are describing?
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 353d
definitely not macaroni, there's no hole in it
farfalle are the type species for the "there for chew, not to hold sauce" category
hark@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 361d
It's a race in Final Fantasy XIV.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 5 pts · 361d
Fun fact: the original neapolitan name for spaghetti was maccheroni.
Gustephan@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 361d
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 361d
i didn't touch it.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 361d
someBODY
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 360d
I’m sorry but if you call gnocchi spaghetti, you’re an idiot.
pewpew@feddit.it · 5 pts · 361d
I must disagree. (not biased btw)
ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world · 1 pts · 361d
Let's put ketchup on pannacotta
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 362d
Spagoots
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 362d
plm00@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 362d
My partner and I call them all "noods". "Let's make noods later", "want some noods?", "these are my favorite noods".
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 361d
Wait...not everyone knows this is the upper hirarchical term for them and thus says "noodles"???
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 360d
Nope, never even heard them called that. Must be a regional things.
scytale@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 361d
Chocolate flavored hummus is actually pretty great. Makes a great dessert dip.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 360d
Came in to say this. Bean chocolate!
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 360d
Where... The fuck... Is the fusilli?!
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 360d
Frostbeard@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 360d
Norwegian here:
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 360d
Good trolling! I'm not even Italian and even I find this infuriating.
Like, call it pasta if you don't know the name is. Even my wife knows that spaghetti is a specific type of pasta and not the general name.
And she might forget the specific names of the Italian kind but you can be sure she is a stickler for specifics when it comes to the Chinese noodles!
wabafee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 361d
Dried flour
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 361d
Pauli Walnuts referring to spaghetti and marinara as macaroni and gravy
Dozzi92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 361d
See, I would call all those macaroni, that's the coverall for tube-shaped fork-sized pasta. Spaghetti are the long rounds. Linguine flats. And then all the big guys get their own names, manicotti, ravioli, and just stuffed shells, they probably got a band that ends in a vowel but it didn't make its way down to me from Grandma.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · -22 pts · 362d
Compared to other cuisines, Italian is trash tier; not because it's not delicious, but because it just relies on cheese, fat, meat and carbs.
"Oh wow, this pasta sauce is so good" yea, it's made of cream, cheese and bacon, how was it going to taste, healthy?
Compare that to french cuisine where they put a bird inside the bladder of a livestock animal with wine and a billion native herbs, and steam it in that for 40 hours, where you actually have to have skill to make a culinary tradition.
Although Joël Robuchon can fuck off with his 50% butter 50% potato mashed patatos. No shit it tastes better than at home you prick, you might as well just put butter on a plate.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 362d
Ah yes the totally evil thing known as carbs, which can be broken down into 3 main types. Those being fiber (which you need to actually digest any food period), starches (which break down into the next category), and sugars (which is what powers your fucking body)!
Fats are like carbs and not inherently evil, it’s food it does not care for your human sense of morals. Which sense you brought up meat and cheese, yes those do have the more unhealthy saturated fats it is still fine to eat those in moderation. Both carry protein which actually makes you feel more full compared with other nutrients. So they these fatty foods can actually help you lose weight if you eat them.
Remember food doesn’t give a shit, it’s neither good nor evil and if you want to lose weight it’s best to eat reasonable portions of whatever makes you happy. As long as you run a calorie deficit then you can eat junk food and still lose weight.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 362d
Thanks for bringing scientific explanations to a joke about a lack of artisanal subtlety in a cuisine. The original statement was about over reliance on easily delicious things instead of vision and ingenuity. Not sure how differentiating between starches and fibers suddenly adds innovative herb combinations and laborious cooking techniques.
oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 361d
Your honor, the joke wasn’t funny and it was a good opportunity to put useful info out there.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 362d
The Fr*nch just add garlic to everything and smoke until their tastebuds fall off.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 362d
If you hate garlic, you might want to check one of the few non carb/fat ingredients in Italian food: garlic.
theUwUhugger@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 362d
…Italians not only have longer life expectancy then french, but also have a fack ton of centenarians
Scrollone@feddit.it · 4 pts · 361d
I think you're mixing up Italian cuisine with fake Italian-American cuisine, which has nothing to do with what actual Italians eat in Italy.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 361d
Ah yes, cream and bacon, true staples of genuine Italian cuisine
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 362d
Tomatoes?
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 362d
That's post Colombian exchange, doesn't count 🤪