2 men publicly caned for hugging and kissing in Indonesia
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/indonesia-caning-men-kissing-lgbtq-anti-homosexuality-laws-banda-aceh/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/indonesia-caning-men-kissing-lgbtq-anti-homosexuality-laws-banda-aceh/
47 Comments
skeezix@lemmy.world · 140 pts · 358d
Imagine being part of a society so backward and morally warped that it would inflict pain on two humans for showing affection to each other. Oh wait my society is like that too.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 58 pts · 358d
Yes - much better for the populace to be seeing beatings than... ew ...LOVE?!?
WTF? Is the country run by incels?
EDIT: oh, I see - homophobic incels.
wuffah@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 358d
Worse, religious fundamentalists.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 358d
the manosphere takes many forms, but the basic shape is always the same
Neondragon25@piefed.social · 13 pts · 358d
The basic shape.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 358d
Genocidal homophobic incel western puppets currently imperializing their neighbors, and were the prototype for America's anticommunist tactics post-1965.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 6 pts · 358d
Right. It's the West's fault. Probably converted Christians are secretly in charge there. Certainly no blame due for Arabia.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 358d
Yes, it was the US who worked to isolate the democratically elected leftist government, while supplying arms, intelligence, and diplomatic support to the coup who overthrew the leftist government then murdered anyone insufficiently religious, rightwing, and conservative.
If the book on how this incident was a template for future US policy was too much reading, here's a wikipedia article.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 358d
this occurred in Aceh which is a gigantic island, but it's known as the "crazy muslim conservative island". They're locally governed and don't represent Indonesia as a whole.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 6 pts · 358d
Arabia hasn't been closely involved for a long time. Actually, I don't know if it ever was or the someone like the Mughals were an intermediary, off the top of my head. It's far away from the Middle East.
Religious conservatives gonna religious conservative. If you go back to ancient history sometimes they were fine with homosexuality, or even expected some amount, but that died out along the way. Because of the European empires, but only because they were more successful, so I wouldn't blame Europe either.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 1 pts · 358d
The really successful religions and eventually empires just happened to be homophobic, so anyone conservative globally is likely to be homophobic.
It's actually a pretty LGBT friendly region anyway, it's legal in most of Indonesia, even, but they border Malaysia where gay stuff gets hard prison time.
Edit: As in, SE Asia is a relatively gay-friendly region, for whatever reason. It's not because social conservatism is out of style.
Indonesia itself is meh. Better than Malaysia, worse than Thailand. And the Muslim part will cane you for it, per the article.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 358d
LOL - you are so fucking wrong it's not even funny.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 3 pts · 358d
Do I dare ask about which part?
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 358d
Indonesia being in any way LGBT friendly is quite incorrect. No, there is no national law outlawing LGBTQ, however, there is a lot of discrimination, prejudice, hate crimes, etc. Yeah, there are some waria there, in some areas, but in general, it's not a place you would want to be LGBTQ. Source: Lived there for years, have family there.
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 6 pts · 357d
To clarify, I meant SE Asia as the region, and I was mentally comparing against Africa or the rest of Asia. It's not the West, but Thailand and Singapore have legal gay marriage now.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
I can’t find anything about Singapore gay marriage being legal yet.
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 357d
Ah, thanks for the clarification, I agree with you on that point!
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 354d
Corporal punishment cures cooties !
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 358d
I mean thats genuinely the least fucked up thing the Indonesian state is doing, look up west papua.
Redex68@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 358d
I read that as canned and was confused as to why they were turned into produce.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 358d
They were put there by a man,
In a factory downtownnnn
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 358d
I thought they were fired
CanadaPlus@futurology.today · 3 pts · 358d
Maybe it's like the smoky tomatoes you can buy in cans?
marsza@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 358d
Can you buy those cans in Canada?
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 358d
Religion is social cancer
selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 358d
How DARE you be in love and show your happiness towards another person that loves you too! That's a TERRIBLE thing, didn't you know???
😠
butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 358d
Barbarians.
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 358d
Don't give trump any ideas.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 358d
Isn’t it already on the chopping block as per p25?
foobaz@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 358d
Recently watched https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Act_of_Killing so no longer suprised by anything happening in Indonesia. 💀
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 357d
The Author's surname is Oppenheimer. Just found that mildly interesting.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 5 pts · 358d
A bit kinky to be caned for showing some love. Seriously though, any religious fundamentalist of any flavor is what makes humans look bad.
ptolemai@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
They spent about on hour on the tower of power
stoly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d
The moral here is not to do public bathroom hookups in Indonesia.
Horsey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
this happens so often in Aceh that it's not even noteworthy at this point
dukemirage@lemmy.world · -33 pts · 358d
Phineaz@feddit.org · 26 pts · 358d
I think you might want to clarify your conclusion drawn from this, it is currently open to some rather unfortunate interpretation.
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 5 pts · 358d
People are just being dense turds. That also is pretty clearly differentiating the second statement from the first.
If you're not sure what he meant, then don't go into full attack mode like some of these commenters.
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
Oops yeah
Ghoelian@piefed.social · 1 pts · 358d
I honestly cannot think of an interpretation of this other than "same sex is not wholesome".
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
I wondered where they are because they are usually included in this kind of games. It’s not my mother tongue.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 22 pts · 358d
"Wholesome" defined as "relationships I understand and am comfortable with." Grow the fuck up. The horrors of people being different than you! It'll destroy your life!
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
That’s absolutely not what I meant, sorry for offending. See my other comment.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 356d
Sorry, but I still don't understand what you supposedly meant. Your sentence structure and choice of words were perfect English, so there was no indication that there might be a language issue here.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 358d
crandlecan@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 358d
You must feel SO safe and comforted right now 🥰🦄
dukemirage@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 358d
No I feel misunderstood, but it’s my fault I wasn’t paying attention.