If they bury her in Arlington or give her any kind memorial plaque or stone that cannot stand. A lot of things I'm willing to let go of as a permanent scar on our history, but we don't bury Nazis next to people that fought the Nazis.
The US is in a civil war. I know it may not seem like it, because there aren't necessarily organized armies and battle lines, but not all wars are fought that way, especially not in this day and age. But while the nature of war may have changed, some things have stayed the same.
In the first US civil war, Lee wanted to capture Washington DC, because if you control the US Federal government you control the United States of America. That's still true. Well, guess who has control of the US Federal government. The liberals and the leftists are losing a war they didn't even know they were fighting. My advice to liberals and my fellow leftists is: start fighting back, or get used to living under permanent Conservative rule.
Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed by law enforcement during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot as she attempted to climb through a barricaded door to the Speaker’s lobby near the House chamber.
In May, the government agreed to pay Babbitt’s family nearly $5 million as part of a settlement.
The lawsuit alleged that the officer, who was not in uniform, failed to deescalate the situation and did not give her any warnings or commands before opening fire.
Remember this when the conservatives scream about "rioters" and the "thin blue line". Fucking traitors and hypocrites.
She was literally climbing through broken window of a door leading to the safe room members of the House of Representatives were sheltering in. The HEAD of the country was being pursued by a mob that had erected a scaffold and noose in front of the building.
Somehow it was the officer's job to deescalate the situation outnumbered 100:1 with a yelling riotous mob bashing in the doors? Yup, it's all about the officer there.
Conservatives, in the end, only care about owning others and power over others. Always realize they don't like or care about your well being. They only play nice with society and a republic when forced to.
I know an air force vet with expertise in Russian surveillance who has been working for US intelligence agencies after their service, going on four decades now. I see so much through this person's perspective, not because they can tell me anything, but because I'm forced to be concerned for this friend every single day. This is absolutely a purposeful slap in the face and a declaration they want to take over the country illegally, whether we wake up and realize it or not. This regime is terrorizing its true patriots even just by constantly threatening their livelihoods.
my read: this is an attempt to show the public that the military is unified in support for j6. i don't buy it. something about this feels like someone swallowed their own pride and honor and self respect to make this 'honorable' funeral happen. someone trying to keep the peace. military officers are not ignorant of what j6 represents, in my admittedly anecdotal experience. for another thing, observe party commisar the honorable mr lohmeir's name on the order, as opposed to any general staff officer's.
it's bad, very bad. but we're not quite ready to start putting people against the wall yet. we're still thinking about how we're gonna get people to think about that first.
edit: the honorable mr lohmeir is a published author. I want you to guess the nature of his book before you click this link.
Nah, this is feeding the MAGA base. They have been ginning up conspiracies about her death since it happened, pushed by fox news/Tucker Carlson. They needed to find an excuse for one of their zealots being rightfully killed that day, in order to downplay the whole insurrection.
Her mom has kept the conspiracies alive, and conniving politicians have gone along with it because the media engine gives them a boost with the fanatics
This is just the latest example. MAGA can now go "see! She didn't deserve to be shot! even though the air force says so!"
The guy who made the decision was fired from Space Force for doing right wing podcasts, wrote a book about Marxism in the military and asked Trump to root out "monsters" in the military who support diversity. He's anti-vax, pro Jan 6, basically his brain is completely given over to any right wing racist concept or conspiracy theory you can think of.
She was cremated and had a funeral in 2021 one month after she died. She was denied the funeral honors ceremony at her funeral at the time but this news is a reversal of that decision.
They are inviting the family out to the Pentagon I think, where they will probably give her the flag and certificate that would have been part of the ceremony. I dunno if they are gonna have service members play taps, the song that is usually part of the ceremony at a funeral. But yeah, she already had a funeral four and a half years ago when she died.
Who cares? This is like the most inconsequential BS of anything around Trump. If this pushes more fringe traitors into violence, I say good. It's about time Americans pay for their dumb choices. I'm on team destroy America and Trump is doing a bang-up job.
We had our chance and blew it. We are in this together, rise or fall. We can't seem to figure out how to coexist or play nice, so now we pay. I'm fine with this as this country is sick to the core. A truly vile empire that will never escape its own violence. My faith in America has gone and I see no way of reclaiming it.
48 Comments
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 181 pts · 1y
You mean Ashli Babbitt the violent insurrectionist who was killed while attempting to attack Congress in direct violation of the oath she swore?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 108 pts · 1y
Ashli Babbitt the Traitor.
teamevil@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
azimir@lemmy.ml · 83 pts · 1y
So the Air Force is actively promotion insurrection and violent coups against the US. So noted.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 1y
The Air Force has had a problem with people more loyal to evangelicalism than the country for while now.
dhork@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Now I'm curious: why the Air Force in particular?
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Maybe the other services do to, but that's the only one I have first hand experience with.
Zahille7@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Is it because the Air Force is the "easiest"?
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Could be. AF acquisitions was barely the military.
Xbeam@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
She was in the Air Force.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 1y
If they bury her in Arlington or give her any kind memorial plaque or stone that cannot stand. A lot of things I'm willing to let go of as a permanent scar on our history, but we don't bury Nazis next to people that fought the Nazis.
Chozo@fedia.io · 8 pts · 1y
I dunno, I think it's about time they installed a urinal in Arlington.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1y
I imagine there's already plenty of them in there
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 1y
Ashli Babbitt, terrorist.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 38 pts · 1y
Insurrectionist Traitor
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 1y
Nazi
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 1y
Valid
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 363d
Invalid, by definition (and fate, at best)
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 1y
I'm not surprised by this.
The US is in a civil war. I know it may not seem like it, because there aren't necessarily organized armies and battle lines, but not all wars are fought that way, especially not in this day and age. But while the nature of war may have changed, some things have stayed the same.
In the first US civil war, Lee wanted to capture Washington DC, because if you control the US Federal government you control the United States of America. That's still true. Well, guess who has control of the US Federal government. The liberals and the leftists are losing a war they didn't even know they were fighting. My advice to liberals and my fellow leftists is: start fighting back, or get used to living under permanent Conservative rule.
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Just remember, the French Revolution went on for years. At some point the tide will turn.
oxjox@lemmy.ml · 52 pts · 1y
Remember this when the conservatives scream about "rioters" and the "thin blue line". Fucking traitors and hypocrites.
azimir@lemmy.ml · 50 pts · 1y
She was literally climbing through broken window of a door leading to the safe room members of the House of Representatives were sheltering in. The HEAD of the country was being pursued by a mob that had erected a scaffold and noose in front of the building.
Somehow it was the officer's job to deescalate the situation outnumbered 100:1 with a yelling riotous mob bashing in the doors? Yup, it's all about the officer there.
Conservatives, in the end, only care about owning others and power over others. Always realize they don't like or care about your well being. They only play nice with society and a republic when forced to.
rainwall@piefed.social · 14 pts · 1y
They are just lying about the no warning. She was warned specially to stop by the cops. Even her fellow terrorists were shouting that there was a gun.
jagermo@feddit.org · 12 pts · 1y
Wait, i thought only antifa stormed the building as a false flag? Was babbitt antifa? Or profa?
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
She was a shitbag
TomMasz@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 1y
A fucking disgrace. Fuck Ashli Babbit. Fuck the Air Force. And Fuck Trump.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1y
Celebrating literal traitors now...how pathetic.
mateofeo85@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
teamevil@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y
VeryVito@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 1y
The insurrectionist and traitor to the United States? Cremate and leave her in the dustbin.
Gumbyyy@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
Maybe they can give her a 21 gun salute. With live ammo. Straight into her coffin.
Bonus@piefed.social · 16 pts · 1y
I know an air force vet with expertise in Russian surveillance who has been working for US intelligence agencies after their service, going on four decades now. I see so much through this person's perspective, not because they can tell me anything, but because I'm forced to be concerned for this friend every single day. This is absolutely a purposeful slap in the face and a declaration they want to take over the country illegally, whether we wake up and realize it or not. This regime is terrorizing its true patriots even just by constantly threatening their livelihoods.
nixfreak@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 1y
Really military honors of treason ? WTF
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 8 pts · 1y
my read: this is an attempt to show the public that the military is unified in support for j6. i don't buy it. something about this feels like someone swallowed their own pride and honor and self respect to make this 'honorable' funeral happen. someone trying to keep the peace. military officers are not ignorant of what j6 represents, in my admittedly anecdotal experience. for another thing, observe party commisar the honorable mr lohmeir's name on the order, as opposed to any general staff officer's.
it's bad, very bad. but we're not quite ready to start putting people against the wall yet. we're still thinking about how we're gonna get people to think about that first.
edit: the honorable mr lohmeir is a published author. I want you to guess the nature of his book before you click this link.
rainwall@piefed.social · 7 pts · 1y
Nah, this is feeding the MAGA base. They have been ginning up conspiracies about her death since it happened, pushed by fox news/Tucker Carlson. They needed to find an excuse for one of their zealots being rightfully killed that day, in order to downplay the whole insurrection.
Her mom has kept the conspiracies alive, and conniving politicians have gone along with it because the media engine gives them a boost with the fanatics
This is just the latest example. MAGA can now go "see! She didn't deserve to be shot! even though the air force says so!"
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah that seems plausible too. probably more plausible than my read tbh. i'm a little afraid my read may be tainted by copium.
tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 8 pts · 1y
Fucking gross
flandish@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
the military gives funeral honors to terrorists literally all the time. this is not news.
RattlerSix@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
The guy who made the decision was fired from Space Force for doing right wing podcasts, wrote a book about Marxism in the military and asked Trump to root out "monsters" in the military who support diversity. He's anti-vax, pro Jan 6, basically his brain is completely given over to any right wing racist concept or conspiracy theory you can think of.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
They didn't have her funeral yet?
topherclay@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
She was cremated and had a funeral in 2021 one month after she died. She was denied the funeral honors ceremony at her funeral at the time but this news is a reversal of that decision.
They are inviting the family out to the Pentagon I think, where they will probably give her the flag and certificate that would have been part of the ceremony. I dunno if they are gonna have service members play taps, the song that is usually part of the ceremony at a funeral. But yeah, she already had a funeral four and a half years ago when she died.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Rewarding bad behavior
sploder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social · -6 pts · 1y
Whatever, she's already dead. It's not like she cares.
Rothe@piefed.social · 33 pts · 1y
That is not their point either. It is to virtue signal the submission of the airforce to Führer Trump.
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social · -4 pts · 1y
They can virtue signal all they want. Trump is already the commander in chief. He runs the show, nothing changes by honoring a traitor.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social · -5 pts · 1y
Who cares? This is like the most inconsequential BS of anything around Trump. If this pushes more fringe traitors into violence, I say good. It's about time Americans pay for their dumb choices. I'm on team destroy America and Trump is doing a bang-up job.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y
Yeah and any innocent people who die will just be acceptable collateral damage, right?
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
We had our chance and blew it. We are in this together, rise or fall. We can't seem to figure out how to coexist or play nice, so now we pay. I'm fine with this as this country is sick to the core. A truly vile empire that will never escape its own violence. My faith in America has gone and I see no way of reclaiming it.
Chozo@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1y
Funerals aren't for the dead.
Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Yeah, they're for the symbol minded.
Tujio@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
*cymbal