Interesting. I'm a language nerd and that made me curious.
Plugging "jiho" into Google Translate and selecting "Detect Language" doesn't give me anything Slavic.
But if I try "jiho" specifically from Czech, Serbian, Macedonian, Croatian, Bosnian, or Bulgarian, they all translate to English "south." (Trying "jiho" with Albanian, however, translates to English "yes.") But none of those options were provided when it tried to "detect" the language? Wtf.
It gets weirder. If I type "south" and translate it into any of the above languages, not a single one responds with "jiho." The closest I see is an option under "more translations" for Czech, which provides "jih."
I know translation is a tricky business, but how does any of this make sense? Google's got enough power, capitol, and access to information to be able to figure this stuff out. Or is this just what enshittification looks like when it's applied to translation services?
(Side note: I'm open to suggestions for other translation sites. The more information they provide, the better.)
Trying "jiho" with Albanian, however, translates to English "yes."
Well, duh. Albanian is not a Slavic language.
As for the rest of it south is jih in Czech, juh in Slovak and jug in most of southern slavic languages. O is added in compound words just to make better pronounceable as in Czech jihozápad or Serbian(Croatian,Bosnian...) jugozapad - southwest. The fact that google is trying to translate jiho- even from other languages then Czech might be some quirk of their engine, I don't think it's actually a word in those languages.
I know translation is a tricky business, but how does any of this make sense? Google’s got enough power, capitol, and access to information to be able to figure this stuff out.
Apparently not
side note: computers are not capable of teaching languages in any meaningful way. Fight me.
I also do. Its a great thing to be able to keep your local culture and language and such while still having a group where you fit in to strengthen common goals.
I meant the second circle with everything east of Poland included. It's basically all the Slavic countries, with the "And Frinds" being Romania, Moldova, BiH, Kosovo, and part of Albania.
Serbia thinks that the last name was the problem and this time it should just be Greater Serbia so there will only be Serbs in it... One way or another.
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lvxferre@mander.xyz · 189 pts · 346d
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 345d
It's ok, the Russian Federation of USA will take care of that!
PlexSheep@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 345d
This but unironically, go democratic world federalism
IndieSpren@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 345d
I propose we get rid of all of them to lower the number of countries
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 345d
2 countries: United States of Earth, and Belgium.
lvxferre@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 345d
9point6@lemmy.world · 179 pts · 346d
Yeah? Yugo and tell them that
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 23 pts · 345d
Show me your Titos...
Kanda@reddthat.com · 18 pts · 345d
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 345d
Tito just wanted some breakfast
pan0wski@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 345d
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 55 pts · 346d
That's certainly never been tried before. I predict zero consequences.
lime@feddit.nu · 55 pts · 346d
😬
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 50 pts · 346d
Uuuuuuh yeah about that, Chief.
roguetrick@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 346d
Maybe call it something like southern slav land.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 346d
Would You Go to Slavia?
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 345d
Oh! Thanks for that, I never saw it until now. In one slavic language that is more familiar to me it would be "jiho" - close enough.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
Interesting. I'm a language nerd and that made me curious.
Plugging "jiho" into Google Translate and selecting "Detect Language" doesn't give me anything Slavic.
But if I try "jiho" specifically from Czech, Serbian, Macedonian, Croatian, Bosnian, or Bulgarian, they all translate to English "south." (Trying "jiho" with Albanian, however, translates to English "yes.") But none of those options were provided when it tried to "detect" the language? Wtf.
It gets weirder. If I type "south" and translate it into any of the above languages, not a single one responds with "jiho." The closest I see is an option under "more translations" for Czech, which provides "jih."
I know translation is a tricky business, but how does any of this make sense? Google's got enough power, capitol, and access to information to be able to figure this stuff out. Or is this just what enshittification looks like when it's applied to translation services?
(Side note: I'm open to suggestions for other translation sites. The more information they provide, the better.)
Vikthor@piefed.world · 5 pts · 345d
Well, duh. Albanian is not a Slavic language.
As for the rest of it south is jih in Czech, juh in Slovak and jug in most of southern slavic languages. O is added in compound words just to make better pronounceable as in Czech jihozápad or Serbian(Croatian,Bosnian...) jugozapad - southwest. The fact that google is trying to translate jiho- even from other languages then Czech might be some quirk of their engine, I don't think it's actually a word in those languages.
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 2 pts · 345d
Maybe some kind of grammatical case is involved.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 345d
Apparently not
side note: computers are not capable of teaching languages in any meaningful way. Fight me.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 345d
computers are great at teaching languages, as they can reproduce text, video, and audio.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 345d
That's not really teaching though; maybe you teach yourself with the help of said media.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 345d
Nothing could possibly go wrong.
Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 346d
lets call it "Austria"
Fortatech@gregtech.eu · 1 pts · 345d
Let's not.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de · 34 pts · 345d
And since they are all the same anyway, just make up some new borders. Worked great in the middle east.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 345d
Yes, and make them go in almost perfect straight lines like in Africa. Cut through important places and cultures like a knife.
Cynicism aside, it's great to see them and the EU trying to establish peace and lasting unity despite everything.
Black616Angel@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 345d
I also do. Its a great thing to be able to keep your local culture and language and such while still having a group where you fit in to strengthen common goals.
States can stay, but borders should vanish.
dawnglider@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 345d
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 346d
Don’t make me roll a naval mine down a hill at you, OP.
jewbacca117@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 346d
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d
Yup, some Croatian forces IIRC.
DampCanary@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 346d
Ohh, there were more inventions in that war
Rolling naval mine downhill
Boiler bombs
Gun made from steering wheel that used shotgun shells as ammo
Hupf@feddit.org · 30 pts · 345d
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 345d
No Constantinople? Weak shit
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 345d
Did you have a date there?
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 345d
29 May 1453, worst date ever
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 345d
🐕😗🎶
🏃
✋😡
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 345d
I can't read these hieroglyphs
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 345d
A dog whistle is blown
man comes running angrily
raises right hand high
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 345d
What does it mean though
hansolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 345d
And then call it "Slavia and Friends"
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 345d
yugo-slavia and herzegovina
hansolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 344d
I meant the second circle with everything east of Poland included. It's basically all the Slavic countries, with the "And Frinds" being Romania, Moldova, BiH, Kosovo, and part of Albania.
Klear@quokk.au · 29 pts · 346d
Merge them? You'd like that, you git.
Genius@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 345d
Push off, you're not my master
logi@piefed.world · 10 pts · 345d
Just a other bad faith comment. Entirely mercurial.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 345d
and we certainly know who to blame
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 28 pts · 346d
Serbia agrees.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 14 pts · 345d
Serbia thinks that the last name was the problem and this time it should just be Greater Serbia so there will only be Serbs in it... One way or another.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 345d
Believe it or not, the reason it wasn't like that in the first place is that Serbia didn't want that.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 345d
And then they changed their minds, and nobody liked that.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
On the contrary, to a first approximation, everyone else chaned their minds. Twice. Thrice, actually, if you judge the Partisans by Tito.
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 345d
My friend, how can you possibly make Serbia any greater than it already is?
Linearity@infosec.pub · 18 pts · 345d
Oml why is Croatia enclosing Bosnia like that that’s so mean 😭
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 345d
Because they stole the whole coastline of Yugoslavia.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 345d
Cuddles 🥰
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 345d
I think a lot of them would actually be very supportive of this idea, however I don't believe any of them agree with how it should be merged.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 344d
"Who wants to be the leader of this new country?"
"Me!" Said everyone.
urheber@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 345d
Countries are so dumb
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 345d
the nation state and its consequences have been a disaster of humankind
ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 345d
How about no.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 345d
Maybe name the merged country after some sort of footstool?
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 345d
Never again! It went awful the last time.
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 345d
How to start a flame war.
tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 345d
flame?
tomiant@programming.dev · 8 pts · 345d
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 345d
i think trans siberian orchestra made a song about that
Jarix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 344d
Actually great concert experience seeing them
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 345d
Don't worry. Croatia is already eating one of them.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 345d
This time fr
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 345d
And use this as flag
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 345d
How is the EU going to handle the conflicts once they are all members?
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 345d
Violently
Matriks404@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
Best they can do is to split up more.