'The left is the party of murder ' Elon Musk calls on Republicans to fight after Charlie Kirk killing'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-charlie-kirk-assassination-b2824455.html

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Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 182 pts · 346d (10 replies)

Gotta love how no information regarding the shooter is out. Yet we have dumbasses like this illegal immingrant here, making absolutes about it being a leftist.

catharso@discuss.tchncs.de · 66 pts · 346d (5 replies)

I accidentally watched a few Asmongold videos since the TrumpStein thing hit.

He seems to have a huuuuge youtube following.

Today he released a video regarding this incident, all somber and rational for like 10 minutes about how both sides have to cool down their rhetoric etc. And then out of nowhere be goes all in on how dangerous and crazy the people on the left are and how it's all their fault - for the next 7 mins.

Dude, did you forget what you yourself just said in this very same video?!

44000 comments at that point. 95% rightwing madness.

I knew something isn't right with this guy and his followers but that was kinda shocking.

Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 346d

I guess all those school shooters, Trump assassins, hammer wielders, proud boys, SUV hit and runners, protest shooters, insurrectionists, and nazis are easy to forget /s

MBech@feddit.dk · 30 pts · 346d

I'm not surprised. The dude is a fucking tool, and can't comprehend ever being wrong.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Asmongold

Who?

Lamplighter@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d

World of warcraft streamer who has decided there is more money in streaming talking about politics

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 7 pts · 346d

Anyone trying to both sides fascism this late in the game is a fascist in denial; that was a pretty obvious tell.

ceenote@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 346d (1 reply)

He tweeted this minutes after it happened. The right always does this, because it works. They seize the narrative early. It's why a lot of people so easily forget the guys who tried to kill Trump were both on the right.

Lukaro@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 346d

One of the few times the right was right!

Nougat@fedia.io · 11 pts · 346d

No suspect, no motive, but there's a bunch of people who really want this to be political.

aramova@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 346d

The shooter is also EATING THE DOGS, THEY'RE EATING THE PETS!

Or some other bullshit.

13igTyme@piefed.social · 106 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Two Democratic senators were shot just a few months ago. One died.

But that's okay and no cause for alarm.

Karjalan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 346d
  • Also, no one knows who the shooter is or their motivations are.
  • Also, "the left is a party... " is not aa statement that means anything in the US. They have far right and center right.
  • Also Charlie Kirk both said "gun deaths is acceptable to protect the 2nd ammendment" and "I don't beleive in empathy"

Is all hypocrisy and they're just scared that they let the cat out of the bag. They pushed this rhetoric and were out and proud with their hate. Probably surprised they were getting away with it, and all of a sudden, they're freaking out.

pentastarm@piefed.ca · 86 pts · 346d (4 replies)

Says the party that [checks notes] locks up immigrants in "detention centers" with not enough food/medicine.

Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Even here, he's literally calling for violence. In fact, I've seen a lot of the right calling for violence.

It's all projection.

pentastarm@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 346d

Which is crazy because we know nothing of the person who did the shooting. Who would they even target? (I know the answer to this, but I still think it's a valid question.)

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Yeah that one's a both parties thing.

Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d

I think at this point we can say one side is infinitely worse than the other.

Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 346d (3 replies)
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P00ptart@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d

X-crement.

TheFogan@programming.dev · 11 pts · 346d

based on the comments I've seen from the right on his death, if I were putting money on a motivation, I'd say it's that he got everyone riled up about the Epstien files, then made a sudden heel turn on "there's nothing here".

krashmo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d

It's only a matter of time until someone on the left does actually do something like this though. They will disingenuously seize on that opportunity to further their agenda as they always do. The kid who punches his bully gets suspended while the bully laughs and continues to terrorize others.

That being said, we already know that being in agreement with reality is not a requirement for Republicans to believe something. Facts don't matter to them so don't bother making factual appeals to them. Their goal is control and they will use any and all means at their disposal to achieve it, regardless of truth. Fight their control, not their arguments.

Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 61 pts · 346d (1 reply)

The left is not a party, dumass

BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 346d

The “left” is anyone who isn’t part of their cishet white supply-side-christian republican in-group.

The “radical left” is anyone that actively opposes their groups rampant political violence.

DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Remember when Trump suggested on national TV that "the second amendment people" should "do something" about Hillary Clinton?

These fuckers started that stupid game a long time ago. Now they're winning the stupid prizes.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d

Palin said something to that effect almost a decade earlier shortly before a Dem legislator was assassinated. Stochastic terrorism is a tried-and-true part of their playbook.

BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 51 pts · 346d

CORRECT! It was The LEFT who Attempted to kill Trump and The Left who Assassinated Minnesota Politicians and The Left who is Killing Immigrants and The LEFT who is attacking Power Stations and the LEFT who Killed Charlie Kirk even Though his Killer wasn't Caught and Nothing is KNown about HIM!

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Trump's taking a page straight out of Israel's playbook...

On June 14, 2025, Minnesota state representative Melissa Hortman was assassinated in a shooting at her home in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, United States. Hortman, the leader of the state House Democratic caucus, was killed alongside her husband, Mark. Earlier that morning, state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were shot in their home in nearby Champlin and hospitalized. Police responding to the attack on the Hoffmans checked on the Hortmans' home, where a man fired at them. The shooter escaped, sparking the most extensive manhunt in Minnesota history.[3]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators

Fascists always use violence and when/if the people fight back, the fascists ignore everything else and use an isolated incident to justify the same violence they've already been doing and we're always going to keep doing.

They're scared of violence because it's the only effective way to fight fascism when the fascists are already in power and control the legal system.

Any American expecting the legal system to hold any of these assholes accountable, frankly doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 346d

Violence is certainly a way, and not a particularly bsd one, but it's not necessary the only way. It's never too late for a general strike.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 346d

Which party extra-judiciously killed a handful of Venezuelan civilians on a tiny boat nowhere near US waters and also killed a bunch of fisherman because they botched a black op?

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 346d (1 reply)

Since I was born in 1980 there have been somewhere north of 15,000 mass shootings and mass murder events in the US. The number of leftist shooters in my lifetime is a whipping total of 2.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d

Both times majority of Americans cheered. Don't heae left wingers shooting up a school.

fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 346d

Elon Musk, the party of one. How’s Tesla, Elmo?

TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 346d

These pieces of shit celebrated murder after murder. No one cares what they think any more.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 346d

Yeah, mmmkay. Supposing we even know who shot Kirk and what the motive is, and they turn out to be a leftist and they shot Kirk for political reasons - that's one instance.

Buffalox@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 346d

Musk is a moron and mentally ill, and very very delusional.
For now assassination attempts on both democrats and right wing politicians and people are by extreme right wing people.
When Musk goes, I bet it will be one from the extreme right taking him out too.
The extreme right is by far the most violent, and clearly the side that is fighting with violence more.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it turns out Charlie Kirk too was taken out by a far right extremist.

PhAzE@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 346d
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Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 346d (5 replies)

It sounds like he is afraid for his own life.

I don't support random killing of oligarchs.

You want an independent court to evaluate their crimes on principles of justice (so not an American court) and if their guilt is proven give them an option of 20 years live-in community service doing de-mining work or 40 years in prison. This is with full asset seizure (every last cent) and a requirement that all family members and business partners sign an affidavit stating that if they collaborated with hiding assets or anything else they get to do 20 years live-in community service (e.g. junior janitor at a refugee camp in Bangladesh) or 40 years prison.

That being said, the world has its own reality outside of American expectations and polemics. One can read history to see how things do actually work out.

Kirp123@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 346d

Elon has been scared shitless since that CEO was murdered in NYC. He's been carrying his human shield kid around with him everywhere and he's got like 20 bodyguards with him at all times. Man knows nobody likes him.

Nougat@fedia.io · 17 pts · 346d (2 replies)

I don't support random killing of oligarchs.

What about systematic killing of oligarchs?

Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 346d (1 reply)

I generally oppose capital punishment, with possible exceptions for high treason (in times of war) or enabling mass deaths for personal benefits (no playing dumb).

My point is that full asset seizure and real multi-decade challenging community service work is a much better long term option.

onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 346d

You have to have a legal system willing to punish billionaires, not one beholden to them, for your point to work.

That doesn't exist in the US, so it's a moot point.

RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d

You believe in courts still‽

MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 346d

Musk = POS Nazi.

betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d

Is he going to start wearing that baby around his neck again?

Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d

'When the left kills a political enemy, it's murder; when the right kills a political enemy, it's an execution or act of God or something.'

Fascinating train of thought, choo-chooooo

Everyone on the right or left who makes such declarations should be shipped out to an island deep in the Atlantic, far, far away, with no internet and free assault rifles. Right gets an AR-15, left gets an AK-47.

BilboBargains@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d (2 replies)

Musk be shitting brix

grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 346d (1 reply)

If funny looking hate mongers aren't safe, then who is??

BilboBargains@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d

Why does nobody consider the plight of the humble billionaires?

TommySoda@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d (1 reply)

There are so many things I find suspicious and annoying about this whole thing. For some reason, everyone all of a sudden thinks this man was a national hero while most people I meet in real life have never even heard of him. So many people, especially online and in the media, have been calling for violence after this and all at the same time (almost like it was coordinated with the bots and Russian trolls to go all out) and all with literally zero proof of why the shooter did what they did and who they were. And all of this happening around the same time as the Epstein birthday book while Charlie Kirk himself has been saying that he wanted it all released.

Edit: Bonus screenshot of Trump and Netanyahu tweeting at the exact same time

RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d

Them tweeting at the same time is suspicious as fuck

brendansimms@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
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fan0m@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 346d (1 reply)

I thought he was pro-2nd amendment?

whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 346d

He, like all of those cunts, are pro-themselves.

desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d

that’s some one sided bubble

biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 346d

Come on Europeans, bankrupt him already