'The left is the party of murder ' Elon Musk calls on Republicans to fight after Charlie Kirk killing'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-charlie-kirk-assassination-b2824455.html
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Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 182 pts · 346d
Gotta love how no information regarding the shooter is out. Yet we have dumbasses like this illegal immingrant here, making absolutes about it being a leftist.
catharso@discuss.tchncs.de · 66 pts · 346d
I accidentally watched a few Asmongold videos since the TrumpStein thing hit.
He seems to have a huuuuge youtube following.
Today he released a video regarding this incident, all somber and rational for like 10 minutes about how both sides have to cool down their rhetoric etc. And then out of nowhere be goes all in on how dangerous and crazy the people on the left are and how it's all their fault - for the next 7 mins.
Dude, did you forget what you yourself just said in this very same video?!
44000 comments at that point. 95% rightwing madness.
I knew something isn't right with this guy and his followers but that was kinda shocking.
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 346d
I guess all those school shooters, Trump assassins, hammer wielders, proud boys, SUV hit and runners, protest shooters, insurrectionists, and nazis are easy to forget /s
MBech@feddit.dk · 30 pts · 346d
I'm not surprised. The dude is a fucking tool, and can't comprehend ever being wrong.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 346d
Who?
Lamplighter@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
World of warcraft streamer who has decided there is more money in streaming talking about politics
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 7 pts · 346d
Anyone trying to both sides fascism this late in the game is a fascist in denial; that was a pretty obvious tell.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 346d
He tweeted this minutes after it happened. The right always does this, because it works. They seize the narrative early. It's why a lot of people so easily forget the guys who tried to kill Trump were both on the right.
Lukaro@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 346d
One of the few times the right was right!
Nougat@fedia.io · 11 pts · 346d
No suspect, no motive, but there's a bunch of people who really want this to be political.
aramova@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 346d
The shooter is also EATING THE DOGS, THEY'RE EATING THE PETS!
Or some other bullshit.
13igTyme@piefed.social · 106 pts · 346d
Two Democratic senators were shot just a few months ago. One died.
But that's okay and no cause for alarm.
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 346d
Is all hypocrisy and they're just scared that they let the cat out of the bag. They pushed this rhetoric and were out and proud with their hate. Probably surprised they were getting away with it, and all of a sudden, they're freaking out.
pentastarm@piefed.ca · 86 pts · 346d
Says the party that [checks notes] locks up immigrants in "detention centers" with not enough food/medicine.
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 346d
Even here, he's literally calling for violence. In fact, I've seen a lot of the right calling for violence.
It's all projection.
pentastarm@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 346d
Which is crazy because we know nothing of the person who did the shooting. Who would they even target? (I know the answer to this, but I still think it's a valid question.)
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 346d
Yeah that one's a both parties thing.
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 346d
I think at this point we can say one side is infinitely worse than the other.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 346d
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d
X-crement.
TheFogan@programming.dev · 11 pts · 346d
based on the comments I've seen from the right on his death, if I were putting money on a motivation, I'd say it's that he got everyone riled up about the Epstien files, then made a sudden heel turn on "there's nothing here".
krashmo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
It's only a matter of time until someone on the left does actually do something like this though. They will disingenuously seize on that opportunity to further their agenda as they always do. The kid who punches his bully gets suspended while the bully laughs and continues to terrorize others.
That being said, we already know that being in agreement with reality is not a requirement for Republicans to believe something. Facts don't matter to them so don't bother making factual appeals to them. Their goal is control and they will use any and all means at their disposal to achieve it, regardless of truth. Fight their control, not their arguments.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 61 pts · 346d
The left is not a party, dumass
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 346d
The “left” is anyone who isn’t part of their cishet white supply-side-christian republican in-group.
The “radical left” is anyone that actively opposes their groups rampant political violence.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 346d
Remember when Trump suggested on national TV that "the second amendment people" should "do something" about Hillary Clinton?
These fuckers started that stupid game a long time ago. Now they're winning the stupid prizes.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
Palin said something to that effect almost a decade earlier shortly before a Dem legislator was assassinated. Stochastic terrorism is a tried-and-true part of their playbook.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 51 pts · 346d
CORRECT! It was The LEFT who Attempted to kill Trump and The Left who Assassinated Minnesota Politicians and The Left who is Killing Immigrants and The LEFT who is attacking Power Stations and the LEFT who Killed Charlie Kirk even Though his Killer wasn't Caught and Nothing is KNown about HIM!
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 346d
Trump's taking a page straight out of Israel's playbook...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators
Fascists always use violence and when/if the people fight back, the fascists ignore everything else and use an isolated incident to justify the same violence they've already been doing and we're always going to keep doing.
They're scared of violence because it's the only effective way to fight fascism when the fascists are already in power and control the legal system.
Any American expecting the legal system to hold any of these assholes accountable, frankly doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 2 pts · 346d
Violence is certainly a way, and not a particularly bsd one, but it's not necessary the only way. It's never too late for a general strike.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 346d
Which party extra-judiciously killed a handful of Venezuelan civilians on a tiny boat nowhere near US waters and also killed a bunch of fisherman because they botched a black op?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 346d
Since I was born in 1980 there have been somewhere north of 15,000 mass shootings and mass murder events in the US. The number of leftist shooters in my lifetime is a whipping total of 2.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
Both times majority of Americans cheered. Don't heae left wingers shooting up a school.
fittedsyllabi@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 346d
Elon Musk, the party of one. How’s Tesla, Elmo?
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 346d
These pieces of shit celebrated murder after murder. No one cares what they think any more.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 346d
Yeah, mmmkay. Supposing we even know who shot Kirk and what the motive is, and they turn out to be a leftist and they shot Kirk for political reasons - that's one instance.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 346d
Musk is a moron and mentally ill, and very very delusional.
For now assassination attempts on both democrats and right wing politicians and people are by extreme right wing people.
When Musk goes, I bet it will be one from the extreme right taking him out too.
The extreme right is by far the most violent, and clearly the side that is fighting with violence more.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it turns out Charlie Kirk too was taken out by a far right extremist.
PhAzE@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 346d
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 346d
It sounds like he is afraid for his own life.
I don't support random killing of oligarchs.
You want an independent court to evaluate their crimes on principles of justice (so not an American court) and if their guilt is proven give them an option of 20 years live-in community service doing de-mining work or 40 years in prison. This is with full asset seizure (every last cent) and a requirement that all family members and business partners sign an affidavit stating that if they collaborated with hiding assets or anything else they get to do 20 years live-in community service (e.g. junior janitor at a refugee camp in Bangladesh) or 40 years prison.
That being said, the world has its own reality outside of American expectations and polemics. One can read history to see how things do actually work out.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 346d
Elon has been scared shitless since that CEO was murdered in NYC. He's been carrying his human shield kid around with him everywhere and he's got like 20 bodyguards with him at all times. Man knows nobody likes him.
Nougat@fedia.io · 17 pts · 346d
What about systematic killing of oligarchs?
Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 346d
I generally oppose capital punishment, with possible exceptions for high treason (in times of war) or enabling mass deaths for personal benefits (no playing dumb).
My point is that full asset seizure and real multi-decade challenging community service work is a much better long term option.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 346d
You have to have a legal system willing to punish billionaires, not one beholden to them, for your point to work.
That doesn't exist in the US, so it's a moot point.
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d
You believe in courts still‽
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 346d
Musk = POS Nazi.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d
Is he going to start wearing that baby around his neck again?
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 346d
'When the left kills a political enemy, it's murder; when the right kills a political enemy, it's an execution or act of God or something.'
Fascinating train of thought, choo-chooooo
Everyone on the right or left who makes such declarations should be shipped out to an island deep in the Atlantic, far, far away, with no internet and free assault rifles. Right gets an AR-15, left gets an AK-47.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d
Musk be shitting brix
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 346d
If funny looking hate mongers aren't safe, then who is??
BilboBargains@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
Why does nobody consider the plight of the humble billionaires?
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 346d
There are so many things I find suspicious and annoying about this whole thing. For some reason, everyone all of a sudden thinks this man was a national hero while most people I meet in real life have never even heard of him. So many people, especially online and in the media, have been calling for violence after this and all at the same time (almost like it was coordinated with the bots and Russian trolls to go all out) and all with literally zero proof of why the shooter did what they did and who they were. And all of this happening around the same time as the Epstein birthday book while Charlie Kirk himself has been saying that he wanted it all released.
Edit: Bonus screenshot of Trump and Netanyahu tweeting at the exact same time
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d
Them tweeting at the same time is suspicious as fuck
brendansimms@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
fan0m@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 346d
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 346d
I thought he was pro-2nd amendment?
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 346d
He, like all of those cunts, are pro-themselves.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
that’s some one sided bubble
biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 346d
Come on Europeans, bankrupt him already