Flush door handles are the car industry’s latest safety problem - Ars Technica

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/09/flush-door-handles-are-the-car-industrys-latest-safety-problem/

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reddig33@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 341d

As pointed out in one of the many other threads about this article — mechanical flush handles aren’t the problem. Motor-driven electronic handles are.

PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 21 pts · 341d

During heavy rain, flush-fit door handles have short-circuited, trapping people in their cars.

This whole thing roots back to Elon Musk being a twat.

He had a habit, in the early days of his involvement with Tesla, of demanding some particular change to the design (and being able to make it stick because of his position) because it would be "more awesome" in his mind. There were a bunch of them, which wasted millions of dollars even back in those much smaller-scale days, and the whole "electronic door handles" thing is that. It's obviously worse in pretty much every way (among them cost, reliability, and safety), but he thought it would be awesome, and he's a self-important blockhead who can't hear any criticism, and so here we are.

WhiteHotaru@feddit.org · 12 pts · 341d

Door handles are a safety feature to open a stuck door with force from the outside. This has been common knowledge (at least in the German car industry) for years. Google some pictures of expensive German cars like Porsche 911, VW Phaeton, BMW 7 and others. Almost all of them have door handles.

Would the designers imagine it without handles and clean lines? You bet. Google Audi Design study: no handles at all.

bytesonbike@discuss.online · 11 pts · 341d (8 replies)

Why do cars keep taking 2 steps forward, one step backwards?

blargh513@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 341d (4 replies)

Money. Charge for useless features, then charge more to let people buy out of them.

Fuck the following:

Flush door handles

Tablet screens that are not integrated into the dashboard

Motorized air vents

Glove box doors that require using the infotainment to open

A lack of keyholes or metal keys for at least one door

Cars that cannot be put into neutral without power

All the goddamn telemetry that you can't shut off

Subscriptions for basic features

Aaos in any car

Gear shifters that are entirely non intuitive

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 341d (2 replies)

I bought a 20 year old pick up with no radio, and I still feel like it has too many features.

shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d (1 reply)

2004 F150 here! Next vehicle I get, I'm holding out for that stripped down electric pickup to hit the streets.

Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 340d

The slate? Yeah I like the look of it too

shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d

Motorized air vents

Excuse me say what? And here I am, mad as hell at modern vents that only shift a few degrees up/down, left/right. The vents in my 20-yo car and truck rotate 360° and open almost 90°.

LapleMeaf@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 341d (1 reply)

It gives them something else to fix and make money on when it breaks. Traditional headlight bulbs are like $10-20 and easy to replace, but newer LED headlight harnesses and their replacement can be hundreds.

Etnaphele@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d

LEDs have so many superior properties and don’t burn out nearly as often though. I have a car with automatic matrix high beams and it’s a godsend for night driving. I would give credit where it’s due.

FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 341d

Because there are no innovations left to make, the design of a car is pretty well established.