"There is one person responsible for what happened here and that person is now in custody and will be charged soon and will be held accountable," he adds
I’m totally expecting a fair trial now.
What a relief…
Besides his skin tone being "blank piece of copy paper" that's likey the main reason he was taken in alive.
It's not like he told his "dad" so much as turned himself in.
There's going to be a lot of pressure for him to plea out, that way the government can say whatever they want. He might even get Epstein's in jail, they've already committed to a narrative, they can't let him take the stand or worse start giving interviews about why he did it
They want a Black transexual with blue hair, and they got a white suburban kid from a prominent Mormon and Republican family...
Maga is scared shitless of the Mormon, if they break away Republicans are fucked without Utah.
And their more loyal to a random member of their own church than to trump. trump is going to quickly pivot to wanting everyone to stop paying attention by Monday.
Doubtful. Mormons aren't going to support murder and Kirk had that veneer of reasonableness that made him the wolf in sheep's clothing that he was. Despite quotes being thrown around, Kirk's fascism was more subtle because otherwise he wouldn't have attracted the uninitiated the way he did.
Mormons will disown him and MAGA will keep their hold on Utah. It might even increase since everyone loves a martyr.
The Mountain Meadows Massacre (September 7–11, 1857) was a series of attacks during the Utah War that resulted in the mass murder of at least 120 members of the Baker–Fancher wagon train.[1][a] The massacre occurred in the southern Utah Territory at Mountain Meadows, and was perpetrated by settlers from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) involved with the Utah Territorial Militia (officially called the Nauvoo Legion) who recruited and were aided by some Southern Paiute Native Americans.[2] The wagon train, made up mostly of immigrant families from Arkansas, was bound for California, traveling on the Old Spanish Trail that passed through the Territory.
Also could destabilize Republican influence in Arizona and Idaho as well, while their influence in Arizona is waning slightly their influence in Idaho especially southern Idaho is still extremely strong.
If he says he's LGBTQ, the church disowns him and Utah will push for death penalty again.
His best bet is to double down on Mormonism and say he did it for all the reasons Kirk and MAGA go against the Mormon teachings.
Which again, worst case scenario for trump because he can't afford to lose Utah and the Mormon church controls Utah politics.
We're gonna have to see how the next week goes, but this could lead to a huge fracture ahead of midterms. Republicans have a 6 seat lead, and 4 seats in Utah are up in 2026.
Danny "Dimes" is what his teammates called him as a Rookie on the Giants.
Because he was "throwing dimes", or perfect passes. But only when he was throwing perfect passes, which as the #6 overall pick he should have always been doing.
He hated the nickname, and it seems pretty obvious his teammates were fucking with him. But after being traded to a new team, beating out the guy who was supposed to be the face of the team for starting QB and a recent top 10 pick, and then playing an amazing week 1 people are using it again.
So definitely a deep cut, and I'm honestly I'm surprised it took this long for someone to ask. I think a lot of people just blindly upvoted.
But Daniel Jones is known for "throwing dimes" and this guy's dad "dropped a dime".
Now comes the question of how much do you trust the three letter agencies run by a admitted partisan and law enforcement that has fumbled and spread misinformation throughout the investigation.
It may be that his father turned him in and other sources has his father as a cop and mormon minister. Would explain his shooting skills and ability to evade law enforcement.
Kirk's body wasn't even cold before people knew the death penalty was locked in. Your Dad might recognize you but what sick fuck says "yeah, go ahead and execute my kid; here ya go" ?
I don't get it either. I would've just off'd myself. Why suffer life in a US torture prison, or death row and execution. Who knows what's going on in his head.
The markings on the bullets described by authorities indicate that the suspect, Tyler Robinson, was steeped in online culture and included references to the Antifa , or the anti-fascist, movement.
A fired shell casing was inscribed with “notices bulges OwO what’s this?” - a reference to a “copypasta” - a piece of text that is repeated over and over again, often to troll people online.
Authorities say one unfired casing had the words “Hey fascist! Catch!” and three down arrows - a common symbol used to represent the anti-fascist movement.
A second casing had the lyrics to a song “Bella Ciao” inscribed on it. The song honours WWII-era partisans of the Italian resistance who fought Nazi Germany.
The third unfired casing was inscribed with the words “If you read this, you are gay lmao” - again an apparent reference to online trolling humour.
Law enforcement officials revealed that Robinson inscribed the sequence up arrow, right arrow, down arrow, down arrow, down arrow on casings, which may be a reference to the co-op shooter Helldivers 2. In the game, the code triggers a 500KG bomb, one of the most destructive stratagems available to players.
So you know that RF Brain worm Jr is going to have a field day with this true or not.
Sad part is it doesn't matter if they retract the news statement people are already thinking the guy is some kind of trans avenger or something. The trans people are enemies part gets screamed. The "it was a mormon cis guy who has the parlance of the average 22 year old internet troll" gets whispered real quiet.
People judging parents doesn't sit that well with me. Another example is Brian Laundrie's parents, who did the exact opposite and attracted everyone's ire for it, as if it was a simple decision to turn in or cover for your homicidal son. Society vs family, where either choice is a failure towards the other side, is the kind of scenario you get snipped over.
I'll be here waiting for verification because assumptions in cases like these are almost always a bad idea and being a rational, logical person, I like to have some objective evidence before making decisions and judgements.
Nah, this kid was from a traditional angry insecure tribalist gun-loving demographic but he was radicalized online by the vile and evil leftists. We must crack down on antifa and woke ideologies by punishing social media that exposes our precious freedom loving children.
/s
But in all seriousness I’m kinda low key worried he will be from a conservative family who realized there is a lot of bullshit and started aligning with the left. Because that will be a dog whistle for loyalists to kill freedom of speech online.
I’m kinda low key worried he will be from a conservative family who realized there is a lot of bullshit and started aligning with the left. Because that will be a dog whistle for loyalists to kill freedom of speech online.
Kash Patel talking about how the FBI and the federal government drove this thing to completion, but, although he perpetually looks as if he has, that dumb fucker clearly couldn't drive his thumb up his arse.
Nope. He's a terminally online edgelord lol. All my bets are on him being a new age white nationalist. Groyper, probably. Fascists always turn on eachother and see violence as a normalized answer to their grievances.
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ccunning@lemmy.world · 135 pts · 359d
I’m totally expecting a fair trial now.
What a relief…
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 359d
Apparently he confessed to his dad, and his dad did his best Daniel Jones impression and immediately called the cops.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 359d
Oh interesting.
Remember, everyone: fish get caught through the mouth.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 359d
His dad is a Morman sheriff in Utah...
Besides his skin tone being "blank piece of copy paper" that's likey the main reason he was taken in alive.
It's not like he told his "dad" so much as turned himself in.
There's going to be a lot of pressure for him to plea out, that way the government can say whatever they want. He might even get Epstein's in jail, they've already committed to a narrative, they can't let him take the stand or worse start giving interviews about why he did it
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 359d
I’m pretty sure they’re not gonna let him plea out. They seem to be very aggressively gunning for the death penalty
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 359d
That was before they knew who he was...
They want a Black transexual with blue hair, and they got a white suburban kid from a prominent Mormon and Republican family...
Maga is scared shitless of the Mormon, if they break away Republicans are fucked without Utah.
And their more loyal to a random member of their own church than to trump. trump is going to quickly pivot to wanting everyone to stop paying attention by Monday.
aquovie@lemmy.cafe · 3 pts · 359d
Doubtful. Mormons aren't going to support murder and Kirk had that veneer of reasonableness that made him the wolf in sheep's clothing that he was. Despite quotes being thrown around, Kirk's fascism was more subtle because otherwise he wouldn't have attracted the uninitiated the way he did.
Mormons will disown him and MAGA will keep their hold on Utah. It might even increase since everyone loves a martyr.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 359d
...
Have you heard, like, anything about Mormanism?
Quick edit:
Like, too many examples for me to possibly list them all, but Netflix made a whole TV show about this one:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre
thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 359d
Why are maga "scared shitless of the mormon" ? Serious question. Not American.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 359d
They have 100 billion in a "wealth fund" for the church, about 40% of which is in the US stock market.
The members of their church are also incredibly submissive and will do whatever their church leaders say, including voting.
Republicans have a very thin majority in both the House and Senate.
Losing the Mormon church, would mean trump loses majority in both. And would prevent a Republican from becoming president.
They're a very large and important bloc of the Republican party.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 359d
Also could destabilize Republican influence in Arizona and Idaho as well, while their influence in Arizona is waning slightly their influence in Idaho especially southern Idaho is still extremely strong.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 359d
I bet they will give him a good deal if he says he feels a little bit trans now
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 359d
Rock and a hard place...
If he says he's LGBTQ, the church disowns him and Utah will push for death penalty again.
His best bet is to double down on Mormonism and say he did it for all the reasons Kirk and MAGA go against the Mormon teachings.
Which again, worst case scenario for trump because he can't afford to lose Utah and the Mormon church controls Utah politics.
We're gonna have to see how the next week goes, but this could lead to a huge fracture ahead of midterms. Republicans have a 6 seat lead, and 4 seats in Utah are up in 2026.
lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 359d
Utah will never go blue again. It's horridly gerrymandered here.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · 10 pts · 359d
His dad called a youth pastor, who then called the police. It's in the linked article.
FailBetter@crust.piefed.social · 2 pts · 359d
I'm confused on the Daniel Jones reference--he seems to just be a NFL player?
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 359d
Danny "Dimes" is what his teammates called him as a Rookie on the Giants.
Because he was "throwing dimes", or perfect passes. But only when he was throwing perfect passes, which as the #6 overall pick he should have always been doing.
He hated the nickname, and it seems pretty obvious his teammates were fucking with him. But after being traded to a new team, beating out the guy who was supposed to be the face of the team for starting QB and a recent top 10 pick, and then playing an amazing week 1 people are using it again.
So definitely a deep cut, and I'm honestly I'm surprised it took this long for someone to ask. I think a lot of people just blindly upvoted.
But Daniel Jones is known for "throwing dimes" and this guy's dad "dropped a dime".
awesomesauce309@midwest.social · 117 pts · 359d
They pinned medals on my grandfather for putting nazis out of their misery. What will they do for this young man?
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 359d
Death penalty.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 97 pts · 359d
Now comes the question of how much do you trust the three letter agencies run by a admitted partisan and law enforcement that has fumbled and spread misinformation throughout the investigation.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 359d
As Donny likes to say:
"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law"
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 359d
Which is why he's giving the fucking Medal of Freedom to that dead fascist mouthpiece.
I fucking hate this country now.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 359d
also:
https://www.newsweek.com/matt-robinson-father-tyler-charlie-kirk-suspect-2128904
It may be that his father turned him in and other sources has his father as a cop and mormon minister. Would explain his shooting skills and ability to evade law enforcement.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 359d
Wtf was he thinking, telling his cop dad? What an idiot.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 359d
He was caught on camera
No matter how many sunglasses and caps you have on. Your dad will recognize you lol
SilverCode@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 359d
Exactly, that is why he should have gone with the fake moustache instead.
Mike_Hunt@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 359d
Should have wore a bald cap and gone full Walter white
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 359d
Orange makeup
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 359d
aquovie@lemmy.cafe · 14 pts · 359d
Kirk's body wasn't even cold before people knew the death penalty was locked in. Your Dad might recognize you but what sick fuck says "yeah, go ahead and execute my kid; here ya go" ?
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 359d
A mormon sheriff that's who.
lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 359d
Some Mormons take it to the extreme.
See the Lafferty brothers.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 359d
Guilt? Normal human emotions after killing something? Mental instability? Wanted to be a martyr?
Who the hell knows at this point.
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 359d
I think maybe he wasn't exactly mentally stable.
ganksy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 359d
Why do you say that?
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 359d
He murdered someone. Allegedly.
puckpuckpuckow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 359d
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 359d
cuz of the murderin'
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 359d
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 359d
Dragomus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 359d
I am still leaning towards someone "recognizing" the gun, having suspicions and asking the suspect where his is, from there it rolled onward.
If he did tell his police officer dad directly well that changes things a bit.
Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 359d
I don't get it either. I would've just off'd myself. Why suffer life in a US torture prison, or death row and execution. Who knows what's going on in his head.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 359d
Does this mean his dad gets the 100k from the FBI?
ccunning@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 359d
A Trump never pays his debts
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 359d
Lol no
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 359d
If you read this, you are gay LMAO
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 31 pts · 359d
The New York Times then went on to define LMAO for people who have been living in a cave for the past few decades.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 359d
That's their biggest reader base, yes.
Assassassin@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 359d
Caught me, damn
glorkon@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 359d
noxypaws@pawb.social · 6 pts · 359d
Sure am
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 359d
Well. Shit.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 359d
If he's carrying a copy of the epstein files the FBI will never find him.
bytesonbike@discuss.online · 11 pts · 359d
There was a meme like this, where the guy was covered in Epstein's files and was invisible to cops.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 359d
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 359d
From another source about the arrows:
So you know that RF Brain worm Jr is going to have a field day with this true or not.
ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 359d
holy fucking shit unimaginably based
bizzle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 359d
Hilarious if true
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 359d
Goddamn right
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 28 pts · 359d
Theres some steep stupidity in them seeing the bullet that used gay as a slur, and interpreting that as being related to transgenderism
XeroxCool@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 359d
You mean TRN for the manufacturer stamp? Edit, nvm, I guess it's the comment about reading the bullet
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 359d
Sad part is it doesn't matter if they retract the news statement people are already thinking the guy is some kind of trans avenger or something. The trans people are enemies part gets screamed. The "it was a mormon cis guy who has the parlance of the average 22 year old internet troll" gets whispered real quiet.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 359d
What kind of horrible parent turns their kid in during THIS administration. The ignorant fools have probably gotten their own son killed.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 359d
Mormons
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 359d
Shave_MyBeever@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 359d
But they don't turn in child predators, rapists, or those who dish out domestic violence 🙄
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 359d
They even pass laws to protect the ones that confess to their cult leaders
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 359d
That's a feature.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 359d
Horrible parents, you answered your own question.
They're just awful people, who reproduced.
blattrules@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 359d
President and governor are calling for the death penalty, but you turn your kid in?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 359d
How else will he learn his lesson?? BTW the parents were registered Republicans.
paranoid@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 359d
It was the right thing to do even though it's a decision that will weigh on him the rest of his life. This is integrity in action.
JGrffn@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 359d
People judging parents doesn't sit that well with me. Another example is Brian Laundrie's parents, who did the exact opposite and attracted everyone's ire for it, as if it was a simple decision to turn in or cover for your homicidal son. Society vs family, where either choice is a failure towards the other side, is the kind of scenario you get snipped over.
Gnugit@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 359d
A good captain always goes down with his ship.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 359d
Looks like we have MAGAt on MAGAt action here.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 359d
We still have no freaking idea.
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 359d
And because he's not a trans antifa with blue hair, we likely won't.
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 359d
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · -9 pts · 359d
Yes we do. Just wait a few hours you will too.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 359d
I'll be here waiting for verification because assumptions in cases like these are almost always a bad idea and being a rational, logical person, I like to have some objective evidence before making decisions and judgements.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 359d
I wish the president of the United States was as cautious and rational as you.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 359d
Honestly if we were all a little more cautious and rational we'd collectively never have to serve jury duty.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 359d
I'm beginning to suspect the angry, insecure, tribalist, gun-loving demographic might be more prone to violence.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 359d
Nah, this kid was from a traditional angry insecure tribalist gun-loving demographic but he was radicalized online by the vile and evil leftists. We must crack down on antifa and woke ideologies by punishing social media that exposes our precious freedom loving children.
/s
But in all seriousness I’m kinda low key worried he will be from a conservative family who realized there is a lot of bullshit and started aligning with the left. Because that will be a dog whistle for loyalists to kill freedom of speech online.
pivot_root@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 359d
He likely is.
The Daily Mail is normally a worthless heap of right-wing garbage, but they turned out to be somewhat informative (and with zero journalistic ethics) by posting family photos of the suspect: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086467/amp/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-killer-identified-Utah-Trump.html
One of those photos is Robinson smiling while wearing a Trump costume for Halloween.
The family is also religious, evidenced by the dad had him go to a minister before turning himself in.
Both parents are registered Republicans.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 359d
Be better than them. Don’t jump to conclusions based on opinion or speculation.
b34k@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 359d
Yeah, well ya know, that’s just like your opinion, man
RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 359d
Kash Patel talking about how the FBI and the federal government drove this thing to completion, but, although he perpetually looks as if he has, that dumb fucker clearly couldn't drive his thumb up his arse.
This administration is a joke.
Jerb322@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 359d
He basically turned himself in...
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 359d
There was a comment yesterday maybe in the megathread? Gotta find it.
ganksy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 359d
We're there reports of his mental instability in his past?
venusaur@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 359d
Whomever the actual shooter is, y’all better make him a hero like Luigi. Your heroes shouldn’t need strongly defined jawlines.
pahlimur@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 359d
Nope. He's a terminally online edgelord lol. All my bets are on him being a new age white nationalist. Groyper, probably. Fascists always turn on eachother and see violence as a normalized answer to their grievances.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 359d
venusaur@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 359d
Luigi saw violence as a normalized answer to his grievances. People just simping for him.