OK, But You Do Know You’re Eulogizing Charlie Kirk, Right? Are we talking about the same guy, NYT, MSNBC, and Gavin Newsom?
https://aftermath.site/charlie-kirk-death-political-violence-new-york-times-eulogy?giftLink=3f1a54ce43aeffa6919a7161982bd303
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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 96 pts · 339d
Just a preview of how much of a shitstain Charlie Kirk was.
...and a great eulogy to the US right on the cusp of its collapse.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 338d
Bad Faith political debate is now considered valid.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 339d
Truth is dead because everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of public opinion
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 339d
I stand by this: blown out neck zombie charlie kirk is gonna be a real popular costume this halloween
MoonRaven@feddit.nl · 18 pts · 338d
How are people going to make their face so small though?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 338d
Use your own face but make a giant paper mache head.
With a big gaping hole in the neck.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 338d
chin putty. whole lotta chin putty
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 338d
And give themselves baby teeth?
Cocopanda@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 338d
I’d suggest people do some boxing training if they’re going to do this. To be ready in case.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d
not on the west coast. it's gonna be popular
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 338d
It’s gonna be this years raygun.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 339d
Republicans getting off on their false victimhood, neoliberals chomping at the bit to condemn a bad thing and signal their esteemed virtues - in other words, a day that ends in Y in America.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 339d
cooked. entirely cooked.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 339d
I’m sure there will be Charlie hats, flags, shirts, etc and that will help them. Nothing heals an emotional scar like go ol hyper capitalism buy, buy, buy!
bigfondue@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 338d
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 338d
Gotta make a quick buck.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 338d
Would Jesus have had merch and a GoFundMe if he was crucified in modern times 🤔
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 338d
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · -46 pts · 339d
I rather like Vlad Vexler's point .
Basically, no matter what your opinions are about the individual, for the first week afterwards if you open your mouth in public it is only to express condolences to the family and to condone all violence. PERIOD, no "but..."
Why? Because we are humans with emotions and feelings.
A week or so after, THEN you talk about how violent rhetoric leads to violent actions.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 339d
Fuck all that. People who reject empathy don't deserve empathetic treatment. He was a giant turd and I'm glad he got flushed.
grue@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 339d
Nah, fuck that and fuck anybody who parrots it.
The MAGA-fascists were spewing violent rhetoric immediately after the assassination of Melissa Hortman; they deserve nothing better.
Fuck their feelings, fuck their crocodile tears, fuck their false victimhood, and fuck anybody duped into carrying water for their dishonest rhetoric!
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 338d
They were positively giddy at the attempted murder of Paul Pelosi, and then went on to defame and blame him for his own attack.
PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 338d
I mean I was happy about that too. Shitty people deserve the consequences of the degrading society they help create and profit off of maintaining.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 339d
I respect a lot of the thought and consideration that Vexler puts into his discourses, but on this topic, I straight up do not agree. Carotid Artery Charlie was a heinous fascist, and he deserves to be remembered as a heinous fascist. Fascists get no grace, respect, sympathy, honor, or quarter, under any circumstances.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 339d
Why should I show condolences to his family? That is empathy you know the thing he said was made up and pointless.
chosensilence@pawb.social · 20 pts · 339d
hard no. charlie kirk was a fascist and he will not receive an ounce of humanity from me and neither will anyone involved in the legacy he intended to leave behind. children are their parents until they either aren't or stay just like them. erika married a fascist and is one herself lol. i just can't care and refuse to.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 339d
you want to whitewash his history while it's in the media and in pop culture. After it's out of pop culture, then historians can find the truth.
AndiHutch@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 339d
In a week, generally no one will be talking about it and everyone will have moved on. This is how stories get killed.
Meanwhile, release the Epstein files that Kirk likely died for helping to hide. In related news, Did you hear how 51 senators are ok with covering up for pedos? Why don't you make their lives miserable for agreeing with Kirk instead of telling the
serfspeople to shut up?Real humans listen to emotions AND reason and don't deny them. To do otherwise would be to agree with Kirk that 'empathy is a new age term that does a lot of damage'.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 338d
I'm not sure the right will let this one go that easily.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 339d
aquovie@lemmy.cafe · 12 pts · 339d
Wouldn't it be nice if MAGA followed the same rules? Wouldn't it be nice if everyone acted like civilized human beings? Let me know when that happens.
What I would wish for right now is for my state to not speak for me. I do not want my state's flag lowered for someone who promoted hate and violence. I will not celebrate his death, that's kinda sick, but I will definitely not celebrate his life either.
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 339d
My emotions and feelings are that I don't give a flying fuck about someone who caused hate and division. His rhetoric has directly harmed people I care about.
I will not express condolences for someone who has hurt those close to me.
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 339d
It's never the acceptable time for some. By the time it is, another such event has occurred. The next thing you know, we're never talking about it because some people have "rules" about it.
wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 339d
bro said CONDONE all violence in his slop post about why we should be sad for charles nazi kirk getting popped like a water balloon
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 338d
Perhaps that is true for a normal person, but a person who has ironically died from the gun violence that they excused and strongly encouraged, and has also disparaged the concept of empathy as a new age fantasy, should not reasonably expect it in return.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 338d
Yeah that's dumb.
Wazowski@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 338d
krunklom@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 338d
I don't like you.
DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 338d
I fail to understand what this means. What emotions and what feelings? Empathy, sadness, rage, happiness, justice, confusion, emptiness? Can I just slap that line onto whatever argument I try making in the future about anything and trust that you will be on my side?