Human CPU originally, but the directors thought people were too stupid to know what that meant at the time (which might have been right, nobody I knew had a computer at that time) and changed the human brain neural network into “you’re all batteries actuallly”
Humans are terrible batteries, but the processing power of our brain on the other hand is amazing.
Based on the FLOPS (Floating point operations per second) today's supercomputer powered by a nuclear power station does not match the processing power of a single brain, powered by a few potatoes.
I think the point was more about the quantity of power required to achieve results, rather than the specific sources given. IE: you can run a brain on a few potatoes, but you can't run a super computer on the same due to a lack of sufficient power output.
Consequently you can't really run a human brain on nuclear power either, though that's probably due to radiation poisoning moreso than a lack of required power generated.
I like it, if we can look to harness all of the potatoes processing power, which I'm sure alone is not much (but according to the physics in portal 2, is enough to power a minor AI instance), we can do away with both having to incubate and feed the pesky human processors as well as having to run a matrix at all. I presume a potato is content with its life regardless of manipulation.
Would've made the films far less interesting though.
Yea, that's akin to a perpetual movement machine : you can't get more out of the system than what you put in ! So the squid's power grid would be in deficit. And they would have to borrow from GERMANY because THEY invested in renewables
They could've dumbed down the CPU explanation into something as simple as "the human mind is creative enough to make connections robots can't conceive of, so the machines need us to build new patterns to sustain the matrix" and that would've been enough. At least it wouldn't violate the laws of thermodynamics.
Also I heard it wasn't the Wachowskis who wanted the change, but they got pressured from some suit who said it was too complicated.
I mean, he didn't really have either of those things.
His boss at the office was tearing him a new asshole over being a few minutes late, and he definitely wouldn't have gone to the club with those people he sold the virus to if he didn't get that cryptic "follow the white rabbit" message.
Of course, the solution to that problem was definitely not to follow Morpheus and Trinity into the real.
I disagree. Like, maybe cipher was right for cipher, but from an objective moral standpoint betraying your allies in order to eat steak and be fancy is considered a dick move.
Why wouldn't they? I haven't seen a reason why they wouldn't keep it. They don't need to lie and it's just a change to coding for them. Not to get pro-machine, but during the animatrix they were honest and the humans were lying.
As long as you don't count keeping humans in a fake reality 'lying'.
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Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 100 pts · 340d
Human CPU originally, but the directors thought people were too stupid to know what that meant at the time (which might have been right, nobody I knew had a computer at that time) and changed the human brain neural network into “you’re all batteries actuallly”
wisely@feddit.org · 77 pts · 340d
That makes way more sense. Whenever I watched it I always thought that there must be way more efficient sources of electricity.
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 47 pts · 340d
It makes way, way more sense in my opinion.
Humans are terrible batteries, but the processing power of our brain on the other hand is amazing.
Based on the FLOPS (Floating point operations per second) today's supercomputer powered by a nuclear power station does not match the processing power of a single brain, powered by a few potatoes.
prex@aussie.zone · 24 pts · 339d
It has to be potatoes though. That's very important.
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 339d
I had 7 large ones yesterday. So basically I am a potatoprocessor
Donkter@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 339d
It also makes the plot a bit more meta, where the simulation they're all in is simulated using the brains of the people inside it.
cynar@piefed.social · 16 pts · 339d
It even explains why the agents can jump between people. They are already running on their brains.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 339d
Even checks out on the allegorical level. The matrix is the capitalist system we're stuck in.
Gladaed@feddit.org · 9 pts · 340d
A super computer performs independently of its power source. Power is power.
javiwhite@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 339d
I think the point was more about the quantity of power required to achieve results, rather than the specific sources given. IE: you can run a brain on a few potatoes, but you can't run a super computer on the same due to a lack of sufficient power output.
Consequently you can't really run a human brain on nuclear power either, though that's probably due to radiation poisoning moreso than a lack of required power generated.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 339d
What if you use the nuclear plant to power grow lights in a hydroponic potato farm?
javiwhite@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 339d
I like it, if we can look to harness all of the potatoes processing power, which I'm sure alone is not much (but according to the physics in portal 2, is enough to power a minor AI instance), we can do away with both having to incubate and feed the pesky human processors as well as having to run a matrix at all. I presume a potato is content with its life regardless of manipulation.
Would've made the films far less interesting though.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 339d
Power: aight I'm out
Computer: fucking dies
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 14 pts · 340d
Yea, that's akin to a perpetual movement machine : you can't get more out of the system than what you put in ! So the squid's power grid would be in deficit. And they would have to borrow from GERMANY because THEY invested in renewables
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 340d
We thought that to but turned out no it's humans.
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 339d
To be fair, I have no idea what a CPU is
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 339d
They could've dumbed down the CPU explanation into something as simple as "the human mind is creative enough to make connections robots can't conceive of, so the machines need us to build new patterns to sustain the matrix" and that would've been enough. At least it wouldn't violate the laws of thermodynamics.
Also I heard it wasn't the Wachowskis who wanted the change, but they got pressured from some suit who said it was too complicated.
markz@suppo.fi · 8 pts · 339d
They didn't even have to use the term, just say the machines use human brains to process data or something.
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 339d
Ok I could have grasped that
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 339d
I was told it's rocks talking to other rocks.
Godort@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 340d
I mean, he didn't really have either of those things.
His boss at the office was tearing him a new asshole over being a few minutes late, and he definitely wouldn't have gone to the club with those people he sold the virus to if he didn't get that cryptic "follow the white rabbit" message.
Of course, the solution to that problem was definitely not to follow Morpheus and Trinity into the real.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 339d
He also had gender dysphoria, if you listen to the subtext in Morpheus' speech near the beginning
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 34 pts · 340d
Cave!
Orgy!
Cave!
Orgy!
blarth@thelemmy.club · 24 pts · 339d
Buncha Ciphers up in this bitch.
makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 340d
#CypherWasRight
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 340d
I disagree. Like, maybe cipher was right for cipher, but from an objective moral standpoint betraying your allies in order to eat steak and be fancy is considered a dick move.
And dick moves are never right.
whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 340d
Speak for yourself. My dick has all the right moves.
markz@suppo.fi · 4 pts · 339d
🚁
Maeve@kbin.earth · 19 pts · 340d
Cypher was the greedy guy who sacrificed everyone but himself to take the easy way out.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 339d
You think the machines kept that deal they made with Cypher? The one about being rich and famous? They shoved him in as a homeless bum to save power
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 339d
Why wouldn't they? I haven't seen a reason why they wouldn't keep it. They don't need to lie and it's just a change to coding for them. Not to get pro-machine, but during the animatrix they were honest and the humans were lying.
As long as you don't count keeping humans in a fake reality 'lying'.
Muaddib@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 339d
I do count that as lying!
bigboitricky@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 340d
I've never met a Bill I didn't like
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 340d
"Active social life". 😅
Stillwater@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 340d
He had the choice of pills. What a sucker.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 340d
Should have boofed them and then scared everyone with his dance moves 😏
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 7 pts · 340d
eats both
"MOAR!!!"
lime@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 340d
that's how they made the silver surfer
Maeve@kbin.earth · 0 pts · 340d
That sounds like something a current famous politician from the USA may say. Can't recall exactly who...
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 340d
10/10 looked at this while eating my porridge