Trump ties autism risk to Tylenol as scientists urge caution

https://www.rfi.fr/en/international-news/20250922-trump-expected-to-tie-autism-risk-to-tylenol-as-scientists-urge-caution

Washington (AFP) – US President Donald Trump on Monday urged pregnant people not to take Tylenol over an unproven link to autism, and urged major changes to the standard vaccines given to babies.

The announcement comes as the White House has vowed to revolutionize health in the United States, as experts across medicine and science voice broad concern over the administration's initiatives.

Medical professionals have long cited acetaminophen as among the safest painkillers to take during pregnancy, especially as fever and pain can also pose dangers to both the mother and the developing fetus.

But Trump insisted that "taking Tylenol is not good."

"For this reason, they are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary. That's for instance, in cases of extremely high fever that you feel you can't tough it out," he said.

During his news conference Trump then pushed major changes to the routine vaccine schedule given to infants, insisting without evidence that there's "no reason" to vaccinate newborns against the incurable, highly contagious Hepatitis B.

Repeating anti-vaccine movement talking points, Trump said "I would say, wait until the baby is 12 years old and formed."

That statement stands in direct contradiction in the face of broad medical consensus formed over decades that the best way to prevent maternal transmission of the disease that can cause liver damage and cancer is to vaccinate newborns within the first day of life.

His statement comes days after an influential advisory panel handpicked by health chief Robert F. Kennedy Jr. stopped short of advising that a delay of one month of the first dose of Hepatitis B was warranted.

They deemed more discussion was necessary -- offering temporary relief to many experts in public health who said delaying that shot could have dire results.

Identifying the cause of autism -- a complex condition connected to brain development that many experts believe occurs for predominantly genetic reasons -- has been a pet cause of Trump's controversial health chief Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Earlier this year, Kennedy -- well-known for his anti-vaccine views and penchant for conspiracy theories -- vowed he would release findings regarding autism's cause by September 2025.

The administration's recent initiative to uncover autism's roots has been widely criticized. Kennedy has spent decades pushing discredited claims that link vaccines to autism.

He touted the drug leucovorin, a form of vitamin B first used to alleviate chemotherapy side effects, as an "exciting therapy" that could help children with autism.

The FDA on Monday said it was approving the drug's tablet form to help a subset of children who have "cerebral folate deficiency."

The Trump government's expected focus on acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, is likely to meet broad critique.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists are among the major medical groups who have identified Tylenol as among the safest options for pain relief and fever reduction during pregnancy. Doctors already warn against its long-term use.

Another common over-the-counter pain reliever, ibuprofen, is generally considered unsafe for pregnant people, especially after the 20th week.

A literature review published last month concluded there was reason to believe a possible link between Tylenol exposure and autism existed -- but other studies have found an opposite result.

Researchers behind the August report cautioned that more study is needed and that pregnant people should not stop taking medication without consulting their doctors.

David Mandell, a psychiatric epidemiologist at the University of Pennsylvania, told AFP that research suggests the possible risks posed by taking Tylenol while pregnant seem "to be lower than the risk of having an uncontrolled infection during pregnancy."

The professor of psychiatry also emphasized that digging into the interaction of genetic and environmental factors is an area of critical research, but that to take on those studies with rigor demands decades of study and funding -- and cast the Trump administration's efforts as rushed.

The Coalition of Autism Scientists earlier called it "highly irresponsible and potentially dangerous to claim links between potential exposures and autism when the science is far more nuanced and uncertain."

"Secretary Kennedy's announcement will cause confusion and fear," said the group in a statement.

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floofloof@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 342d (1 reply)

"Urge caution"? Scientists know the claim has been thoroughly and repeatedly proven false. More sanewashing by the media.

kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 342d
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spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 342d

Another distraction, release the Epstein files.

Rhaedas@fedia.io · 23 pts · 342d (7 replies)

Trump said "I would say, wait until the baby is 12 years old and formed."

What?

undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch · 23 pts · 342d (1 reply)

12 years of age and older is probably the age of consent in his mind

s@piefed.world · 9 pts · 342d

You think he cares about consent?

sam_spandex@feddit.nu · 6 pts · 342d

Puberty schmuberty… or as the great Orange One once said: ”Grab them by the pussy”

It probably coincided with when he thinks it ok to start… you know… vaccinating.

jacksilver@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d (1 reply)

We've got it on record now, it's not a fully formed baby until 12 years. Not sure how that changes the abortion debate.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 341d

I personally only support after birth abortion

Atropos@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d (1 reply)

And how is babby formed?

Mist101@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d

From pre-come on tip touch top of his head from comdom.

psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 341d (3 replies)

"For this reason, they are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically necessary. That's for instance, in cases of extremely high fever that you feel you can't tough it out," he said.

My bro, why the fuck do you think people take painkiller for

ryannathans@aussie.zone · -6 pts · 341d (2 replies)

Mild shit like colds I assume

psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Upon knowing that acetaminophen and paracetamol is the same thing, i'd say, no shit? So called "mild cold" can still be painful, and sometime the headache is unbearable.

And upon knowing that acetaminophen and paracetamol is the same thing, Trump is full of shit for linking it with autism.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 341d

Yes but you quoted text saying an extremely high fever

s@piefed.world · 17 pts · 342d

Tylenol introduced in 1955.

Donald Triplett, the first person diagnosed with autism, born 1933.

Level 1 autism was previously called Asperger’s Syndrome, named after a Nazi pediatrician who studied children with symptoms in 1944.

The timeline doesn’t add up for Tylenol to be a determining factor.

Side note: I think it’s odd how all of these years have double digits at the end but that also might just be an autism thing

f1error@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 342d (1 reply)

f1error@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 342d

xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 13 pts · 342d (2 replies)

"And you know what else is known to cause autism? Existing. You people should totally stop doing that too."

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Careful saying that...

Eugenics is starting to come back after a century

xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 341d

Well, yeah. That was my point.

blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 341d

And then we discover a large donation from Advil

First_Thunder@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 341d

“If you want any proof that vaccine causes autism, just look at ME. When I was born, I was a beautiful baby, my father, a big strong man, came to me, tears down his eyes, and said “Who is a cute baby” and I said, “GooGoo Dada”, and then those doctors vaccinated me, and I turned into this that you see here and told my father that I had a great business opportunity, that if he made a big beautiful fantastic wall, that I would stop crying”

MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 341d

A key belief of the heritage foundation (project 2025) is to stop women from getting any sort of pain relief during birth. The pain is an impprtant part of process as "we were born into sin"

This is likely them taking the first step in that direction. They want to get rid of epidurals and force women to have 'natural' births.

Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 341d

Science by decree...

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 342d

The worms have spoken

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 341d

I hope Tylenol sues him

I would donate to help offset legal fees

krunklom@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 341d

And rabies are caused by spray tan.

:O

BC_viper@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 342d
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CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 341d (8 replies)
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MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 341d (4 replies)

Hikikomori only describes behaviour, not a mental state.

And it is not mutually exclusive with asd. You can become a hikikomori both because of autism, or despite being neurotypical.

A person can't "have" hikikomori instead on being on the spectrum.

If anything, I'd suggest that being on the spectrum makes a person more likely to become a hikikomori. Especially if the needs of that person go unmet due to them being undiagnosed.

That other psychiatrist is full of shit and should lose their medical license for conflating an actual diagnosis with a mere symptom of potentially the same thing.

DacoTaco@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d (1 reply)

^ this.
The same applies for ad(h)d and a few others. You can have ad(h)d without being on the asd spectrum but they often coincide.
Asd(authism) is a spectrum for crying out loud, a collection of sympthoms in a varying degree of severity. Because its a collection, which btw you need to have several in a specific degree to get asd diagnosed, it means that the sympthoms can coincide with other diagnoses.
Its like being overweight, which can come from having diabetes ( type 1 i think?) or from having a slow working thyroid or even from having a bad diet.

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 341d

Indeed.

But even beyond your point, mine is that hikikomori is a symptom, not a diagnosis.

Basically, saying "he's not autistic, he's just a hikikomori" is like saying "he's not autistic, he's just shy".

One has nothing to do with the other, except when it does, and it's possible to be both, or either.

CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 341d (1 reply)
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MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 341d

Read my comment again. Pay attention to the bolded part.

And it is not mutually exclusive with asd. You can become a hikikomori both because of autism, or despite being neurotypical.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 341d

Hikikomori, we call that a shut-in and it's a behavior pattern (not exclusively) of teens; not something you can have/be. It can be caused by social tension/exclusion in school, in this case likely caused by misunderstandings due to light autism.

About autism (infodump):

Autism is a range of (in most cases multiple) deviations in details of neurochemical parameters. Neurons communicate with each other not via direct contact but via transport chemicals. To make things even more complex, those chemicals need to be "carried" by proteins. If something is "misconfigured", the target (synapse) can be under/overstimulated and/or give a too weak/strong signal or have a delay or whatever.

Luckily, the brain doesn't work on the base of single neurons but on "waves" of synchronized neurons instead. So alltogether, such a "misconfigured" brain can still work well enough to allow some level of functioning/consciousness, with slight differences in understanding or performance in light cases.

Tl;dr: autism is not something you can "catch" or "have": it's how they are born, it's how they are.
And while stress or some substances during pregnancy can have a influence on the likelyness, it's something that happens naturally now and then.

A understanding and supporting environment is especially important for autists.

Disclaimer: this is the layman understanding of someone affected (Aspergers).

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d (1 reply)

You sure you talked to a real doctor?

CuffsOffWilly@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 341d
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