Not quite. So far as I'm aware the actual leaker remains anonymous, and the journalist they originally gave the documents to is okay. However, two journalists who were involved in picking apart the actual content of the papers and reporting on it were murdered, Daphne Caruana Galizia and Ján Kuciak. Galizia was the one who was killed with a car bomb
Ján Kuciak, murdered together with his wife in their house, in their bed while sleeping. Meanwhile our current (Slovak) government party at that time campaigned and promised to “catch their killer and solve the murder”. You can guess whether they delivered on that promise( spoiler: they didn’t)
Remember when it turned out that on top of this the USA was also being run by a cabal of pedophile nazis and then they got voted back in anyway and then the richest man in the world publicly did a nazi salute on stage and then openly went around every government department installing his own servers to do fuck knows what and then the president of the USA sent the military into American cities and talked about cancelling elections and still nothing happened? And also when the president staged an attempted coup, picked up 36 felonies and buried his ex wife under his golf course? And also took a bunch of highly classified documents home and kept them next to his toilet and then his son in law mysteriously got two billion dollars from the Saudi government for no apparent reason?
Obama did a response to the film The Laundromat (which is excellent), where he said, yes this is one of the keystone problems we have, but there is not going to be a fix for it, because the people that could fix it are benefitting from it. I've never seen him quite that defeated before.
I found a related clip, not precisely what the commenter mentioned but it's the same mold - Obama talking about the Panama fraud itself, rather than the movie
One of the funny things about the Panama Papers was how few Americans were in it. This is not a point in America's favor, but an illustration of how loose and flimsy American tax law is in practice. You don't need these elaborate shell companies to avoid taxation, because tax avoidance for folks in the mega-million brackets is baked into the system.
Excellent point. The miles long US tax code leaks taxation on the wealthy like a sieve, by design, such that many of our billionaires pay less than average working class citizens. It’s grotesque, and even now they’re pushing to strip healthcare from millions to pay even less.
I have heard some dems a/b testing recently on ideas of taxing wealth not work. I really like that approach in theory, hope it sticks and we can finally start narrowing the insane and utterly untenable wealth gap.
and then the news dropped the stories after she was killed, they were waiting for a moment to stop talking about the papers. Now they arnt even talking about epstein files.
It was a heavily European scandal due to the people involved. Americans weren't banking in Panama because the US is already a massive tax shelter/avoidance system. What scandals we had were wrapped up in Swiss/Bahama bank accounts and the "Double Irish" tax arrangement for business tax avoidance. And they weren't strictly scandals because all that shit was on-its-face legal.
The Panama Papers scandal was a much bigger deal in Europe, particularly Eastern Europe (because of the Putin connection to a lot of it). And it was covered extensively in French, German, Italian, and Greek media.
There were people prosecuted for this I believe, but it only happened in countries where the law actually exists so it wasn't the US, UK, or anything like that.
Not literally nothing. A good few people were arrested and over a billion dollars was recovered as a result. Germany issued an arrest warrant, but Panama doesn't have an extradition treaty with Germany, and refused to hand them over because the owners of the law firm that facilitated the tax evasion held Panamanian passports. There was however a few US Citizens who were indicted on tax fraud charges and thrown in prison for it.
They do it in Nevis now. They set up companies there, the government refuses to reveal who owns which company, and the filthy rich hide and launder billions through those companies.
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Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works · 223 pts · 319d
Didn't the person who leaked that get blown up by a car bomb? That's not nothing.
Skua@kbin.earth · 174 pts · 319d
Not quite. So far as I'm aware the actual leaker remains anonymous, and the journalist they originally gave the documents to is okay. However, two journalists who were involved in picking apart the actual content of the papers and reporting on it were murdered, Daphne Caruana Galizia and Ján Kuciak. Galizia was the one who was killed with a car bomb
ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 319d
Ján Kuciak, murdered together with his wife in their house, in their bed while sleeping. Meanwhile our current (Slovak) government party at that time campaigned and promised to “catch their killer and solve the murder”. You can guess whether they delivered on that promise( spoiler: they didn’t)
RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 319d
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 317d
Many countries elect them to high office and/or have nothing bit high praise for these parasites.
Trill88@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 319d
Fucked
chunes@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 319d
It caused mass protests in Iceland and the prime minister resigned over it.
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 33 pts · 319d
At least Iceland cared?
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 319d
Same as 2008
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 124 pts · 319d
Remember the Epstein files?
The insurrection?
Trump's felonies?
Trump's rapes?
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 103 pts · 319d
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 319d
This is good, straight to the shit post office.
I Stole This For Free
Zephorah@discuss.online · 8 pts · 319d
As soon as the government opens, we need to blast about the Epstein files.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 112 pts · 319d
Remember when it turned out that on top of this the USA was also being run by a cabal of pedophile nazis and then they got voted back in anyway and then the richest man in the world publicly did a nazi salute on stage and then openly went around every government department installing his own servers to do fuck knows what and then the president of the USA sent the military into American cities and talked about cancelling elections and still nothing happened? And also when the president staged an attempted coup, picked up 36 felonies and buried his ex wife under his golf course? And also took a bunch of highly classified documents home and kept them next to his toilet and then his son in law mysteriously got two billion dollars from the Saudi government for no apparent reason?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 11 pts · 319d
The American populace is so house-broken.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 319d
Yes I do recall
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 319d
Bruhhhhh so succinct
tripledip@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 317d
I remember when DOGE cannibalized pepperidge farm as a company and deported all of the workers.
mrmanager@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 318d
Land of the free....
BanMe@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 319d
Obama did a response to the film The Laundromat (which is excellent), where he said, yes this is one of the keystone problems we have, but there is not going to be a fix for it, because the people that could fix it are benefitting from it. I've never seen him quite that defeated before.
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 319d
Any chance you have a link or transcript?
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 319d
I found a related clip, not precisely what the commenter mentioned but it's the same mold - Obama talking about the Panama fraud itself, rather than the movie
rmrf@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 319d
+1 for a link to the video please
derry@midwest.social · 2 pts · 319d
There is a fix but it will be bad
arin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Heads or tails
derry@midwest.social · 2 pts · 319d
Both.
Killer57@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 319d
I vote for both
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 319d
One of the funny things about the Panama Papers was how few Americans were in it. This is not a point in America's favor, but an illustration of how loose and flimsy American tax law is in practice. You don't need these elaborate shell companies to avoid taxation, because tax avoidance for folks in the mega-million brackets is baked into the system.
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 319d
Excellent point. The miles long US tax code leaks taxation on the wealthy like a sieve, by design, such that many of our billionaires pay less than average working class citizens. It’s grotesque, and even now they’re pushing to strip healthcare from millions to pay even less.
I have heard some dems a/b testing recently on ideas of taxing wealth not work. I really like that approach in theory, hope it sticks and we can finally start narrowing the insane and utterly untenable wealth gap.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 319d
Of course something happened. They started supporting the overthrow of democracy and the installation of fascist regimes in Western countries.
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 319d
Honestly, this is probably it. Look at who has bankrolled Trump's campaign and (nonexistent) presidential library.
arin@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 319d
Something did happen carbombed the journalist who reported on the corruption
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 319d
And then they're was surprisingly (or, in hindsight, not so surprising) little reporting on the carbombed journalist
cuerdo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 319d
i think it was ruled a suicide, no foul play
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 319d
and then the news dropped the stories after she was killed, they were waiting for a moment to stop talking about the papers. Now they arnt even talking about epstein files.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 319d
1 thing happened: a journalist got killed.
Tangentism@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 319d
Her name was Daphne Caruana Galizia and she was murdered by a car bomb
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 35 pts · 319d
We've also known for decades rich people like to gather at the pedophile island. There is no such thing as a good billionaire.
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 319d
blave@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 319d
if you think "nothing happened", then you've been living in a cave or something:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers#People_named
many people were prosecuted. some were jailed, some were sanctioned, although most were acquitted after trial.
but to say that "nothing" happened is simply false.
EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
blave@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
like, I get it-- it sure feels like nothing happened. we hardly heard about it when it did, and then it was just over.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
It was a heavily European scandal due to the people involved. Americans weren't banking in Panama because the US is already a massive tax shelter/avoidance system. What scandals we had were wrapped up in Swiss/Bahama bank accounts and the "Double Irish" tax arrangement for business tax avoidance. And they weren't strictly scandals because all that shit was on-its-face legal.
The Panama Papers scandal was a much bigger deal in Europe, particularly Eastern Europe (because of the Putin connection to a lot of it). And it was covered extensively in French, German, Italian, and Greek media.
DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 319d
"most were acquitted after trial."
blave@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
yes, I'm aware of what I wrote
DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 319d
Are you? Because being acquitted means nothing of consequence happened to the tax cheats.
blave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
no it doesn't. that's just what you imagined so you can feel outraged.
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 319d
You see, you can't prosecute them, otherwise they won't invest or something.
knowone@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 319d
They'll go hoard all their wealth and not circulate it (something that a capitalist economy needs to "work") in another country
Asafum@feddit.nl · 14 pts · 319d
There were people prosecuted for this I believe, but it only happened in countries where the law actually exists so it wasn't the US, UK, or anything like that.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 319d
What do you mean nothing happened. Meryl Streep made a movie about it. And THEN nothing happened.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 319d
Makes me wonder, how is Snowden doing and why did it take me so long to remember his name
RedFrank24@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 319d
Not literally nothing. A good few people were arrested and over a billion dollars was recovered as a result. Germany issued an arrest warrant, but Panama doesn't have an extradition treaty with Germany, and refused to hand them over because the owners of the law firm that facilitated the tax evasion held Panamanian passports. There was however a few US Citizens who were indicted on tax fraud charges and thrown in prison for it.
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 319d
We gave some of them direct or indirect positions in the US government I think.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 319d
shakira, JACKIE chan was also in the paper, i wonder if this one of his motivations for trying to be part of the CCP.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
They do it in Nevis now. They set up companies there, the government refuses to reveal who owns which company, and the filthy rich hide and launder billions through those companies.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 319d
We are all hamsters, running perpetually in cycles of production and consumption, inching ever closer towards demise.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 319d
mitochondria, who do all the hard work
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
The real message was - taxes are for suckers like us. Conclusion - don't be a sucker.
tisktisk@piefed.social · 3 pts · 319d
Nothing ever happens guy wins again
blindbunny@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 319d
The magic the gathering class of people are apathetic
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Nah, they stole more and are more blatant about it. Something happened, just nothing good.
Trill88@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
Not a good damn thing
derry@midwest.social · 2 pts · 319d
I think about this more often than I like.
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 314d
Well the rich people aren't going to be the ones doing anything about it. Did any of you?
vane@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 319d
They made virus to cover it up. Now they're covering virus with AI.