Just because I can’t name the head of Antifa (or any other prominent member of Antifa) off the top of my head doesn’t mean they aren’t a highly coordinated terrorist organization.
The media has failed its duty to report the news, allowing satire to mock them by simply saying the words the media is too weak to speak, and you say there's no irony? The comedic fake newspaper is more legitimate than the actual news - the irony is virtually palpable.
Fascist regimes have classic, telltale traits, like vilifying immigrants, adopting patriotic symbolism of their nation’s glorious past, embracing a narrow definition of masculinity and family values, and striving for economic and diplomatic self-sufficiency. But just because we also do all of those things does not make us fascists.
This is fantastic writing.
And it’s not just calling us fascists—any defamatory language, like saying we’re “bigots,” or “scumbags,” or “walking sacks of bile who decided to make their self-loathing everyone else’s problem” should earn you a life sentence. Republicans don’t engage in that sort of behavior, and the only way to restore our country to order is to punish those who do.
So, stop claiming that we want to deny you freedom of expression; otherwise, we’ll have no choice but to take that freedom away.
Just outstanding. I'd send it to a MAGAt in my life if I thought there was even a chance they get it.
and pundits say Ukraine has fascist problem. there is a difference between clowns in the media saying stupid shit and clowns holding office to abuse their power.
it's much more complicated than that. i don't want to turn this thread into a flame war so i'll try my best to contextualize my point.
foreign media have consistent pattern of putting together Ukrainian nationalists and actual nazis. It's not even an oversimplification - it's basically apples and oranges kind of thing. While they both are on the right wing spectrum, they are so far apart - nationalists are basically centrist as most of them stand for gradual continuous transformation of state institutions through multi-stage reforms. The biggest political nationalist organization of the past People's Movement (Narodny Rukh) was like that and even they had limited representation within state institutions.
The thing is - Ukrainian politicians for the most part use nationalism as a gimmick to get into offices and do their shady dealings under guise of greater good "for the people long term let it play out" bullshit. European Solidarity led by former president Poroschenko are like that, current ruling party Servant of the People is like that, long-running populist cockroach Tymoschenko's Fatherland is literally a clickbait party that just want to hold office and steal money and they will publicly say whatever helps them with that. Even former eastern juggernaut Party of Regions used the same rhetorics while literally being a bunch of robber barons feigning legitimacy mixed with full-on collaboration. Now these guys are a problem because they can bullshit their way into decision making.
the other big thing is how nationalists and nazis define nation. nazi goes for ethnic-only definition which is fucking stupid in a historically multi-national state - their whole shtick is literally meaningless the moment you look at the ethnic layout of Ukraine through the ages until now. So we group together these sets of people who live here - Boykos, Polischuks, Lemkos, Bukovinians, Slobozhan as Ukrainians because the language is somewhat common but Kirimli, Romanians, Hungarians, Jews, Poles, Greeks, even russians etc - they also live here but they don't count and don't belong even though they're born and raised here, living here, paying taxes, doing business, literally dying to protect their homes - their whole thing falls apart quite fast because of that.
Meanwhile modern nationalists define nation as political entity first bound by society, culture and territory - which is a far cry from traditional definition of nationalism. I hope I cleared this up.
These days nazis get their media exposure because they are at the frontlines fighting the enemy. basically, they exploit noble cause privilige to push their agenda but their attempts to capitalize on their newfound notorious come with mixed success and there is always a moment when the media personality with nazi leanings says something stupid and fades away. Back in the yanukovych era - those guys were literally brought to political talk shows to says wild shit so that everybody else could go - see these guys are krayzee. that's the moden nazi media cycle in Ukraine. Politically, nazis consistently lost elections on every level, they have no representation within government institutions and have niche public support that mostly exists on social media within their bubbles. And any time they actually found their way into public offices in the regions - it ended being a same old corrupt mess as every other politician - so that's that.
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CuriousRefugee@discuss.tchncs.de · 89 pts · 336d
Fantastic satire
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 336d
Oh, the irony
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 336d
No onion here. They are saying shit like that.
s@piefed.world · 37 pts · 336d
Modern satire is just statement of facts in a direct way, probably since the news media isn’t doing that
MehBlah@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 336d
That isn't satire. There is no wit, no irony and no sarcasm. Stating direct facts is simply reporting the news.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 9 pts · 336d
The media has failed its duty to report the news, allowing satire to mock them by simply saying the words the media is too weak to speak, and you say there's no irony? The comedic fake newspaper is more legitimate than the actual news - the irony is virtually palpable.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d
Too weak to speak. Too bought and paid for.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 336d
A weakness of integrity, correct.
frazw@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 336d
Miller just looks like someone who is angry at the whole world because he was bullied when he was a child.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 38 pts · 336d
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 336d
Dude is 40 going on 55. Evil rots from within.
CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 12 pts · 336d
Kinda reminds me of Vladimir Putin when he was younger
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 336d
Look up Benito Mussolini, twins.
Kolonel_Kahlua@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 336d
His eyes are dead.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 3 pts · 336d
Those eyes are fucking deceased is what they are.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 336d
He sold his soul to a demon, that's why
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 336d
What a fucking loser
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 336d
I was bullied as a child, and I'm still only mad at bullies like this CHUD
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 336d
He's a psychopath even from when he was a teenager. On Reddit they had videos when was ranting in his teen years.
hellfire103@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 336d
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 336d
Wait is this theonion or nottheonion? I'm not even sure anymore.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 336d
Yes. It's non isn't.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 336d
In 1931, an exceptionally talented young Berlin attorney named Hans Litten summoned Adolf Hitler to testify in a criminal case. In his three-hour cross-examination of the head of the Nazi party, Litten managed what precious few dared to attempt. Hitler had expected the young lawyer to be intimidated; instead, Litten aggressively and skillfully dissected him under oath, reducing the supposedly gifted orator to a stammering rage. In trapping Hitler in contradictions and exposing him as an inveterate liar, Litten also made clear the Nazis’ goal of destroying the Weimar Republic. Hitler left the witness stand rattled and humiliated, henceforth forbidding Litten’s name to be uttered in his presence.
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 8 pts · 336d
Glad that young attorney got that asshole out of politics.
Tilgare@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 336d
This is fantastic writing.
Just outstanding. I'd send it to a MAGAt in my life if I thought there was even a chance they get it.
selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 336d
That sounds pretty fascist to me....
njm1314@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 336d
I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller has said this verbatim
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 11 pts · 336d
What a
oddfascist thing to sayMisterOwl@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 336d
Fuck off, fascist.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 336d
#notTheOnion?
dangrousperson@feddit.org · 2 pts · 336d
while technically not the onion, its still satire and belongs here
lemmylommy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 336d
So, what does the free speech absolutist say about that?
primrosepathspeedrun@anarchist.nexus · 5 pts · 336d
MITM0@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 336d
Oh & if you don't call us fascists, we'll make shit up & say that you called us fascists & then we'll arrest you
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 336d
If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck...
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d
Shoot it like a Nazi ?
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 336d
Was gonna say cook it like a hibachi chef but I guess they gotta start somewhere
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 335d
When it comes to Stefan Mueller it seems they auditioned for the most Nazi-ish looking guy they could find.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d
https://youtu.be/zvgZtdmyKlI
Watch with subtitles if you don't speak German
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 336d
and pundits say Ukraine has fascist problem. there is a difference between clowns in the media saying stupid shit and clowns holding office to abuse their power.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 336d
Well, Ukraine does have a Nazi problem, but that doesn't justify Russia's land grab
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 335d
it's much more complicated than that. i don't want to turn this thread into a flame war so i'll try my best to contextualize my point.
foreign media have consistent pattern of putting together Ukrainian nationalists and actual nazis. It's not even an oversimplification - it's basically apples and oranges kind of thing. While they both are on the right wing spectrum, they are so far apart - nationalists are basically centrist as most of them stand for gradual continuous transformation of state institutions through multi-stage reforms. The biggest political nationalist organization of the past People's Movement (Narodny Rukh) was like that and even they had limited representation within state institutions. The thing is - Ukrainian politicians for the most part use nationalism as a gimmick to get into offices and do their shady dealings under guise of greater good "for the people long term let it play out" bullshit. European Solidarity led by former president Poroschenko are like that, current ruling party Servant of the People is like that, long-running populist cockroach Tymoschenko's Fatherland is literally a clickbait party that just want to hold office and steal money and they will publicly say whatever helps them with that. Even former eastern juggernaut Party of Regions used the same rhetorics while literally being a bunch of robber barons feigning legitimacy mixed with full-on collaboration. Now these guys are a problem because they can bullshit their way into decision making.
the other big thing is how nationalists and nazis define nation. nazi goes for ethnic-only definition which is fucking stupid in a historically multi-national state - their whole shtick is literally meaningless the moment you look at the ethnic layout of Ukraine through the ages until now. So we group together these sets of people who live here - Boykos, Polischuks, Lemkos, Bukovinians, Slobozhan as Ukrainians because the language is somewhat common but Kirimli, Romanians, Hungarians, Jews, Poles, Greeks, even russians etc - they also live here but they don't count and don't belong even though they're born and raised here, living here, paying taxes, doing business, literally dying to protect their homes - their whole thing falls apart quite fast because of that. Meanwhile modern nationalists define nation as political entity first bound by society, culture and territory - which is a far cry from traditional definition of nationalism. I hope I cleared this up.
These days nazis get their media exposure because they are at the frontlines fighting the enemy. basically, they exploit noble cause privilige to push their agenda but their attempts to capitalize on their newfound notorious come with mixed success and there is always a moment when the media personality with nazi leanings says something stupid and fades away. Back in the yanukovych era - those guys were literally brought to political talk shows to says wild shit so that everybody else could go - see these guys are krayzee. that's the moden nazi media cycle in Ukraine. Politically, nazis consistently lost elections on every level, they have no representation within government institutions and have niche public support that mostly exists on social media within their bubbles. And any time they actually found their way into public offices in the regions - it ended being a same old corrupt mess as every other politician - so that's that.
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 336d
Stephen Miller was what Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris would have grown into if they hadn't shot up Columbine and taken their own lives.
eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 336d
"if you say guns kill people one more time, I will shoot you with a gun and you will, coincidentally, die"
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 336d
https://youtu.be/zvgZtdmyKlI
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 335d