This is just one step away from a literal Budget Arms Slaught-O-Matic dispenser. Mike Pondsmith wrote Cyberpunk as satire, not as a rough guide to the future.
Thanks for looking it up ! so it's rare. It's kind of a relief. I find it disturbing that weapons are so normalized over there. Of course there are legitimate reasons to own a weapon but still
Yo I have 4 firearms and I find it disturbing too. It's a huge cultural problem we have that, in my opinion, is one of the reasons we have so many more gun deaths than other nations around the world.
I'm going to lovingly cradle my SKS and try to not think about it.
The vending machines are rare, but it's very normal for stores to stock boxes of ammo on their shelves as there's no paperwork or restrictions on it's purchase like with the firearms themselves. I live like a mile from the downtown of ultraliberal Portland Oregon and there are like a dozen stores within a ten minute drive where I can buy a box of rounds.
Regular family dude several years ago got shot to death by cops at a walmart while carrying a stocked pellet gun around to checkout bc a white person called the cops and described him as angry on the phone. In an open carry state.
Likewise and I'm like a 10 minute walk in almost any direction from buying 1000+ rounds of whatever ammo I want no questions asked.
NGL it's pretty fun to go target shooting but holy hell do some people stock up like the "end is nigh" and they're gonna need to shoot their way out. My local shops have signs now that say only 2 boxes of ammo of any kind per customer per day. Or at least they did the last time I bought ammo. It takes awhile to get through 1000 rounds lol
So I was looking at their little bit on security and I think its a riot that they do not even seem to hint at the issue of a cook off. In fact they seem to think security of live ammunition is just about theft and ID checking.
"Every transaction is powered by advanced card scanning and facial recognition technology to verify ID and age, ensuring every sale is secure, compliant, and backed by the highest standards of responsibility."
That is it, nothing else. Even looking at drink vending machines they have info on the mechanics of their machine (how it keeps things cold, how it stores and vends etc.).
For comparison every place I have seen ammo sold its ether just on a shelf, locked behind glass (not able to hold much pressure), or in a locked metal cage.
Eh, everything vends in the end. That is not the weird part to me, its the blatant disregard of explosive storage safety that has me fascinated. Like this is from a company that makes ammo as well, and this makes me wonder if there is any design for a blow out or if they are also storing ammo like this in their facilities.
There are not really as much restrictions about ammo storage and less so with a vending machine. But what do you mean by bypass? What does it not being a person matter (any storage is not a person unless they are hooping rounds and yet people are still responsible for storage)?
I mean in terms of buying it. A vending machine has zero critical thinking skills and can potentially recognize someone behaving oddly, or blatantly using someone else's ID or other similar funny business.
I'm not talking about storage, the ubiquitous comment was about that. Like you said its almost always stored poorly, a vending machine doesnt change that.
There are multiple types, but that looks like a press brake. If you haven't seen one in action, you might enjoy searching up a video of someone using one to make something.
Yeah, I know. The fucking internet comments today. Everybody knows I meant "vending". Everybody knows it was the autocorrect. Yet some asshole will paste a photo of an industrial bender in the comments.
Yeah happens to me all the time, but of course as soon as I turn off autocorrect I realize it's saving my fatass thumbs far more often than it's throwing them under the bus.
I hate to put the joke into the cruel light of reality but ammunition does not shoot when burned, the whole first name for brass cased ammo was "safety rounds" due to the design of the round being crimped means the brass will break open and nothing will shoot out when set off outside of a chamber. A round needs a to be chambered to "shoot" the projectile. When you hear about ammunition "cooking off" what is actually happening is the container the ammo in is acts like a pressure vessel and becoming a bomb. When people are hit with things in an ammo cook off its actually shrapnel (the container) doing most of the damage.
So in this case it would be the vending machine parts flying into people not the .50 cal rounds "blasting people". And the funny (and very american) thing is that the big old freedom box would be deadly but the racks and racks of unsecured ammo on shelves in cardboard boxes would not be. In fact the more heavy duty and secure you built the vending machine the worst it would be. But who knows maybe they have blast panels on this thing, making it the most over engineered solution to a problem no one should have.
A boom is a boom, and the .50 cal rounds got more boom powder in one spot. Them bitches will contribute a lot to the blast.
And those bullets from those rounds are gonna move in a blast so it'll be vending machine parts AND bullets.
It also says "blasts everyone" not "shoots everyone"
So uh, the joke still works.
And I must agree this is an overengineered solution to a problem that didn't exist that potentially causes more problems. But of course the problem they were trying to solve was likely, "How do we sell ammo in large quantities, hot dogs, AND beer in the same place without having to open a new store?" And so, we get an ammo vending machine placed right next to hot dog and burger buns right near the meat section lol
Fun part is when you look at non us places that sell ammo they don't have this issue, I have been in general stores that do sell all 3 items and would never, ever think to do this. Somehow the us manages to be the worst of both no firearm safety knowledge and also thinking everyone should have a firearm.
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rtxn@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 311d
This is just one step away from a literal Budget Arms Slaught-O-Matic dispenser. Mike Pondsmith wrote Cyberpunk as satire, not as a rough guide to the future.
DaGeek247@fedia.io · 15 pts · 311d
For what it's worth, the ID check means this makes it harder to buy ammo than it would be from a store with a person in it.
ooterness@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 311d
"At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus."
alquicksilver@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 312d
That vending machine anime is about to get a lot less lighthearted.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 36 pts · 312d
Thankfully without confinement in a barrel cooked off ammo is a lot less dangerous than you might think.
Though you'd still not want to stand near it.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 311d
1 by itself sure, but I ain't gonna test a pile of 1000+ rounds in a fire lol
Please pardon the reddit link but it's a video of an ammo depot going up.
SacralPlexus@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 311d
This is so unrealistic. No American would say 40 meters.
hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 311d
67.3 burger radius
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 312d
ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 311d
Ew gross, a vending machine that dispenses faces!?
hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 311d
I mean, as long as they're properly cooked. Raw face is just gross.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 311d
Hey man, they're blanks. They never belonged to nobody yet!
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 311d
As long as they're cooked it's fine, the uncooked ones are just floppy and gross
::: spoiler Lamas with hats reference
:::
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 311d
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 23 pts · 312d
Is this real or parody ?
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 30 pts · 311d
Apparently a real thing:
https://americanrounds.com/
Though it looks like none of them are in Target (I had a hard time believing that anyway, they had a 'no firearms' policy for a long time).
It looks like there are 7 of them throughout the US; a few in Kansas, 1 in Texas, one in Colorado, and 1 in Alabama.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 311d
Thanks for looking it up ! so it's rare. It's kind of a relief. I find it disturbing that weapons are so normalized over there. Of course there are legitimate reasons to own a weapon but still
LePoisson@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 311d
Yo I have 4 firearms and I find it disturbing too. It's a huge cultural problem we have that, in my opinion, is one of the reasons we have so many more gun deaths than other nations around the world.
I'm going to lovingly cradle my SKS and try to not think about it.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 311d
The vending machines are rare, but it's very normal for stores to stock boxes of ammo on their shelves as there's no paperwork or restrictions on it's purchase like with the firearms themselves. I live like a mile from the downtown of ultraliberal Portland Oregon and there are like a dozen stores within a ten minute drive where I can buy a box of rounds.
nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org · 4 pts · 311d
Regular family dude several years ago got shot to death by cops at a walmart while carrying a stocked pellet gun around to checkout bc a white person called the cops and described him as angry on the phone. In an open carry state.
Access is a funny thing. acab.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 311d
Likewise and I'm like a 10 minute walk in almost any direction from buying 1000+ rounds of whatever ammo I want no questions asked.
NGL it's pretty fun to go target shooting but holy hell do some people stock up like the "end is nigh" and they're gonna need to shoot their way out. My local shops have signs now that say only 2 boxes of ammo of any kind per customer per day. Or at least they did the last time I bought ammo. It takes awhile to get through 1000 rounds lol
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 310d
So I was looking at their little bit on security and I think its a riot that they do not even seem to hint at the issue of a cook off. In fact they seem to think security of live ammunition is just about theft and ID checking.
"Every transaction is powered by advanced card scanning and facial recognition technology to verify ID and age, ensuring every sale is secure, compliant, and backed by the highest standards of responsibility."
That is it, nothing else. Even looking at drink vending machines they have info on the mechanics of their machine (how it keeps things cold, how it stores and vends etc.).
For comparison every place I have seen ammo sold its ether just on a shelf, locked behind glass (not able to hold much pressure), or in a locked metal cage.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 310d
There is so much about this vending machine thats odd, definitely.
Not the least of which being, you know, fucking ammo in a vending machine.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 310d
Eh, everything vends in the end. That is not the weird part to me, its the blatant disregard of explosive storage safety that has me fascinated. Like this is from a company that makes ammo as well, and this makes me wonder if there is any design for a blow out or if they are also storing ammo like this in their facilities.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 310d
wondered if this sort of thing happens more often in the states? I mean kinda wild that this happens as I am looking at stupid american ammo storage.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 310d
I mean, thats kind of ubiquitous though.
This sort of vending option can easily bypass most restrictions because its not a person. Yes, people can help bypass too, still though.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 310d
?
There are not really as much restrictions about ammo storage and less so with a vending machine. But what do you mean by bypass? What does it not being a person matter (any storage is not a person unless they are hooping rounds and yet people are still responsible for storage)?
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 310d
I mean in terms of buying it. A vending machine has zero critical thinking skills and can potentially recognize someone behaving oddly, or blatantly using someone else's ID or other similar funny business.
I'm not talking about storage, the ubiquitous comment was about that. Like you said its almost always stored poorly, a vending machine doesnt change that.
Sorry I said it poorly and made that unclear
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 311d
Yeah I put "Target" in there for the double meaning not that this thing is actually at a Target
NGL I cooked on this meme for probably too long lol
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus · 2 pts · 311d
Makes sense, and seems like 😄
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 311d
me making meme
"Must make funny out of horrors of our shared reality!"
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 11 pts · 312d
It's America
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 11 pts · 311d
The real Borderlands
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 22 pts · 312d
You have to show ID to buy ammo? The terrorists have won...
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 34 pts · 311d
That is so fucked up. What if someone needs ammo for school?
latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 311d
Well, I guess we'll never need to ask "why's there ammo everywhere in video games?" Because we put it there. Have you not seen the vending machines?!
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 311d
America really is the perfect setting for a survival shooter
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 311d
I get mad at the lack of ammo in places when playing games, even here in Canada do you have any idea how many rounds are in say a Canadian Tire?
hOrni@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 312d
Don't Americans dare say, that Japan has weird vending machines.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 9 pts · 311d
Japanese bending machines you say?
edit: they fixed it. nvm, TIL that bending machines are a thing. In Japan.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 311d
Bender?
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 311d
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 311d
Nah, he was manufactured in Mexico.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 311d
Has family all over the place though.
Arcka@midwest.social · 2 pts · 311d
There are multiple types, but that looks like a press brake. If you haven't seen one in action, you might enjoy searching up a video of someone using one to make something.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 7 pts · 311d
FYI, you put in "bending machines."
otoh, Japan does have some bizarre adult devices so maybe you were correct?
hOrni@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 311d
Yeah, I know. The fucking internet comments today. Everybody knows I meant "vending". Everybody knows it was the autocorrect. Yet some asshole will paste a photo of an industrial bender in the comments.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 311d
You made a mistake, it's funny because everyone makes mistakes, we laugh in joy at our shared humanity.
hOrni@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 311d
You missed the point. I didn't make a mistake. A mistake was made for me.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 311d
Yeah happens to me all the time, but of course as soon as I turn off autocorrect I realize it's saving my fatass thumbs far more often than it's throwing them under the bus.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 311d
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 3 pts · 311d
Don't kink shame!
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 15 pts · 311d
I hate to put the joke into the cruel light of reality but ammunition does not shoot when burned, the whole first name for brass cased ammo was "safety rounds" due to the design of the round being crimped means the brass will break open and nothing will shoot out when set off outside of a chamber. A round needs a to be chambered to "shoot" the projectile. When you hear about ammunition "cooking off" what is actually happening is the container the ammo in is acts like a pressure vessel and becoming a bomb. When people are hit with things in an ammo cook off its actually shrapnel (the container) doing most of the damage.
So in this case it would be the vending machine parts flying into people not the .50 cal rounds "blasting people". And the funny (and very american) thing is that the big old freedom box would be deadly but the racks and racks of unsecured ammo on shelves in cardboard boxes would not be. In fact the more heavy duty and secure you built the vending machine the worst it would be. But who knows maybe they have blast panels on this thing, making it the most over engineered solution to a problem no one should have.
Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 311d
A boom is a boom, and the .50 cal rounds got more boom powder in one spot. Them bitches will contribute a lot to the blast.
And those bullets from those rounds are gonna move in a blast so it'll be vending machine parts AND bullets.
It also says "blasts everyone" not "shoots everyone"
So uh, the joke still works.
And I must agree this is an overengineered solution to a problem that didn't exist that potentially causes more problems. But of course the problem they were trying to solve was likely, "How do we sell ammo in large quantities, hot dogs, AND beer in the same place without having to open a new store?" And so, we get an ammo vending machine placed right next to hot dog and burger buns right near the meat section lol
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 311d
Fun part is when you look at non us places that sell ammo they don't have this issue, I have been in general stores that do sell all 3 items and would never, ever think to do this. Somehow the us manages to be the worst of both no firearm safety knowledge and also thinking everyone should have a firearm.
Senseless@feddit.org · 11 pts · 311d
Satire is dead.
omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 311d
People should be buying their ammo online in bulk anyways, it's much cheaper.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 311d
Then it turns the mail van into the IED.
(But yes, I do the same)
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 311d
"When you think murder, think Marcus Munitions!"
excral@feddit.org · 1 pts · 310d
No refunds!
Corelli_III@midwest.social · 5 pts · 311d
when they did this in borderlands it was a joke about how gun obsessed their insanely murderous culture was
now the colonizers are the joke irl
kotauskas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 310d
borderlands real
kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 311d
That's not really what bullets do without a chamber or barrel. Also that is pretty clearly a fireproof safe.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 311d
Ammo pack for the shooters
flandish@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 311d
“Caveat Emptor!”
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 311d
I thought ammo vending machines were just a video game trope.