The next day, in a statement to TMZ, DHS’s assistant secretary for public affairs Tricia McLaughlin said, “Pink Pony Club is good. Pedophiles are bad. That’s who we’re getting off of our streets. Get a grip.”
In a separate event...
In September, Hacks actor Hannah Einbinder closed her Emmys speech by saying, “Go Birds, fuck ICE and free Palestine!” In a response given to TMZ, DHS’s McLaughlin issued a statement saying rhetoric like Einbinder’s is “inspiring violence against our ICE law enforcement,” which she claimed was “facing a 1,000% increase in assaults against them.” No data backs up McLaughlin’s claim about a dramatic increase in anti-ICE violence, per Oregon Public Broadcasting.
“As this woman fans the flames of hatred, our brave law enforcement will continue enforcing the rule of law and protecting Americans,” McLaughlin continued.
Yes, people saying "Fuck ICE" are fanning the flames. It sure isn't all the borderline legal and straight up illegal things being done by the regime. Couldn't be.
Pedophiles have become a damn smokescreen in your country and the worst part is that it works. I have in my life time not read about slany efforts to combat child abuse in america on a federal level but id love to hear that i am wrong.
Mclaughlin is a joke and ICE doesn't face even close to the violence they deserve and not even a fraction of what they deal on a widespread daily basis, illegaly on top.
Fuck ICE and complacency. Praise to people standing up against them.
Children have always been used as tools. It's either we have to stop pedophiles or we have to "think of the children." Both excuses get used by both parties to strip rights away from us.
Yeah for all the demands to hurt pedophiles all I see is them being weaponized as the beachhead of "well some people don't deserve the rights of the accused/convicted" and as mudslinging.
When the right wing says they're going after pedophiles I just assume that means they're using extreme violence against whoever they want because they've long ago stopped actually caring if someone is a pedo before accusing them of it. Which is very bad for children who are victims of child sex abuse. When pedophile is a generic insult as it's becoming this either continues devolving into mass violence or people stop taking thst word seriously
Better yet, look into the arrest of Tom Alexandrovich. He's a pedophile who was arrested in Las Vegas last August for soliciting a 15 year old and DHS let him escape the country because he's an Israeli with ties to Netanyahu.
1000% increase.
Theres a reason they dont mention the actual figures is because its <100 cases and also their classification of 'assault' is sometimes people yelling or gesturing angrily and startling them.
Do you also consider that this is an absolutely tiny increase given how agressive and rapidly scaled the ICE threat is to american citizens?
Im suprised it isnt thousands of number of assaults given how immoral and legally questionable their actions are.
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem responded directly to a parody of her in an episode of South Park that targeted the ICE raids, as well as her personally, in August.
“It’s so lazy to just constantly make fun of women for how they look,” Noem said of the episode on the Glenn Beck Program podcast, per The Guardian. “If they wanted to criticize my job, go ahead and do that. But clearly they can’t – they just pick something petty like that.”
But she's cool with all the jokes about her shooting dogs?
To be fair, I actually agree with her on this. Making fun of someone for how they look is lazy. Especially when there are so many other things that are so easy to pick apart. A general rule of thumb I have is to never make fun of someone about something they are, but something they do is totally fair game.
I think it's one thing to make fun of the Joseph Merrick, who has very little control over how he looks versus making fun of Kristi Noem who paid people to mutilate her for Trumps approval.
Fascists are inherently vain, as annoying as it may be they HATE when folks make fun of them for their appearance. They revel in being called monsters but the second you call them ugly you hurt their feelings, it's rather pathetic.
Okay, keep using completely unnecessary ad hominem attacks that undercut your message. I'm not going to tell you that you can't, just that is pointless and the people that you want to reach will be more likely to completely dismiss any valid point you might have otherwise made.
How is her plastic mold of a face not "something they do?" She wasn't born like that. Its something she chose and for her to start pretending like she has some moral high ground while disappearing people based on the color of skin they were born with makes her an even slimier subhuman person.
I don't know, I would say use whatever makes them anxious, go full on psychological warfare. If they are insecure about their natural looks, absolutely use it and make them embarrassed. I support going full bully against fascism.
Those procedures modified her though and are a part of her now. You can argue this all you want. I really don't care. You are the one that will undercut your own arguments with ad hominem attacks that people will easily dismiss. It doesn't matter how good your other arguments are, if you give someone even one reason to disregard you they will. You only hurt yourself.
Because she is evil, facts don't matter to her. There is no debate. No one is being convinced of anything. Belittling fascists is a known nonviolent tactic that works because they are nihilistic narcissists. I'd never say demeaning things about strangers, but public figure Nazis are fair game for anything that bruises their ego.
While you are technically correct, I think it is fair to draw a line at Mar-a-Lago face. Ridiculing white supremacist bimbos who intentionally choose that look... I am kind of okay with that. Because the look itself is a symbol of hate.
I always find it particularly weaselly when hard-right politicians try to invoke progressive values to deflect criticism back on their critics. As if she and her cadre aren’t obsessed with looks.
Really shows how fucked in the head she is. Doesn't see anything wrong with shooting dogs, doesn't even care that she's being made fun of for it. Only cares about herself. The very definition of a narcissist and psychopath.
Plus, when you go very far out of your way and spend who-fucking-knows-how-much taxpayer-funded salary to make yourself look batshit insane, you should be ridiculed for it. You chose that wretched, gnarled visage, now live with its hideous consequences.
DHS’s assistant secretary for public affairs Tricia McLaughlin said, “Pink Pony Club is good. Pedophiles are bad. That’s who we’re getting off of our streets. Get a grip.”
It's true in the same way that the united states killed a bunch of pedos in Nagasaki. When you engage in mass indiscriminate violence you will manage to hit a few people who are universally detested
They always like to say these idiots are law enforcement. Heck even our law enforcement needs more training hours to be in charge of legally killing someone on the clock.
Our departments in charge of national security are more on social media than actually keeping Americans safe. Like no one wants to hear about ICE's opinions on pop stars!
Remember when Lemmy hated her for following "You don't have to endorse Harris, you can just vote and that's enough" like so many people said? And then she did and people hated her for not endorsing Harris but still voting for Harris?
Wasn't she starting out this year gaslighting her fans and blaming them for associating her with politics even though she voluntarily had a public crash-out against Kamala over Palestine?
I just can't see her as the one people should rally behind since she seems to only want to engage with politics when it suites her, not whenever its genuinely important.
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Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 230 pts · 316d
Here was the response to Roan's comments:
In a separate event...
Yes, people saying "Fuck ICE" are fanning the flames. It sure isn't all the borderline legal and straight up illegal things being done by the regime. Couldn't be.
deacon@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 316d
lowleekun@ani.social · 55 pts · 316d
Pedophiles have become a damn smokescreen in your country and the worst part is that it works. I have in my life time not read about slany efforts to combat child abuse in america on a federal level but id love to hear that i am wrong.
Mclaughlin is a joke and ICE doesn't face even close to the violence they deserve and not even a fraction of what they deal on a widespread daily basis, illegaly on top.
Fuck ICE and complacency. Praise to people standing up against them.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 316d
Children have always been used as tools. It's either we have to stop pedophiles or we have to "think of the children." Both excuses get used by both parties to strip rights away from us.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 316d
No, they have been fighting it in the 3 letter agencies. Trump probably shut those programs down though, with Doge.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 316d
JFC the problems with everything continue with every administration. That's the point.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 316d
Yeah for all the demands to hurt pedophiles all I see is them being weaponized as the beachhead of "well some people don't deserve the rights of the accused/convicted" and as mudslinging.
When the right wing says they're going after pedophiles I just assume that means they're using extreme violence against whoever they want because they've long ago stopped actually caring if someone is a pedo before accusing them of it. Which is very bad for children who are victims of child sex abuse. When pedophile is a generic insult as it's becoming this either continues devolving into mass violence or people stop taking thst word seriously
BCBoy911@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 315d
Better yet, look into the arrest of Tom Alexandrovich. He's a pedophile who was arrested in Las Vegas last August for soliciting a 15 year old and DHS let him escape the country because he's an Israeli with ties to Netanyahu.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
Off the streets and into the White House
skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de · 30 pts · 316d
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 316d
Are they trying to portray every single person abducted by ICE as a pedophile? Because only many tens of millions of utter morons would buy that.
Archer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 316d
I have some bad news for you
JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 315d
1000% increase. Theres a reason they dont mention the actual figures is because its <100 cases and also their classification of 'assault' is sometimes people yelling or gesturing angrily and startling them.
Do you also consider that this is an absolutely tiny increase given how agressive and rapidly scaled the ICE threat is to american citizens?
Im suprised it isnt thousands of number of assaults given how immoral and legally questionable their actions are.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 314d
Idiot speaker Johnson classified the nude bike ride in Portland as the worst attack. That should tell you something about the rest.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 315d
Let's bump those numbers up. The only good fascist....
Sundiata@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 314d
it is actually 1,000% increase in ICE assaults against minorities.
Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
The rule of law is so important that it doesn't apply to the highest position of power in this country.
BlueLineBae@midwest.social · 133 pts · 316d
But she's cool with all the jokes about her shooting dogs?
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 316d
Noem has more plastic in her than the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and it's severely affecting her ability to function as a real human being.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 315d
What's your evidence that the cosmetic surgery is effecting her functioning as a human being?
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 315d
What is your evidence that she is human at all?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 315d
I'm sure you meant "affecting".
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 316d
To be fair, I actually agree with her on this. Making fun of someone for how they look is lazy. Especially when there are so many other things that are so easy to pick apart. A general rule of thumb I have is to never make fun of someone about something they are, but something they do is totally fair game.
SlippiHUD@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 316d
I think it's one thing to make fun of the Joseph Merrick, who has very little control over how he looks versus making fun of Kristi Noem who paid people to mutilate her for Trumps approval.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 316d
Sure, but again why do that when there are so many other valid reasons to make fun of her? You belittle your own position when you do that.
Soulg@ani.social · 15 pts · 316d
Disagree. She chose to look like that so it's fair game, the same way a bad haircut or weird clothes is fair game.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 316d
I guess, if that's more important to you than all the other horrible shit she's done.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 315d
Fascists are inherently vain, as annoying as it may be they HATE when folks make fun of them for their appearance. They revel in being called monsters but the second you call them ugly you hurt their feelings, it's rather pathetic.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
It's not the fascists that you can convince to come to your side though. They're too far gone to be reasoned with at this point.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 316d
It almost reaches the bar of "concern trolling" at this point.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 316d
Okay, keep using completely unnecessary ad hominem attacks that undercut your message. I'm not going to tell you that you can't, just that is pointless and the people that you want to reach will be more likely to completely dismiss any valid point you might have otherwise made.
ngdev@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 315d
those people would dismiss valid points regardless
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 315d
Not all. But if you always alienate them, then yes all.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 316d
How is her plastic mold of a face not "something they do?" She wasn't born like that. Its something she chose and for her to start pretending like she has some moral high ground while disappearing people based on the color of skin they were born with makes her an even slimier subhuman person.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 14 pts · 316d
I think that's the line.
Making fun of someone for appearance they naturally have: off limits.
Making fun of someone's appearance choices: all in.
bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 315d
I don't know, I would say use whatever makes them anxious, go full on psychological warfare. If they are insecure about their natural looks, absolutely use it and make them embarrassed. I support going full bully against fascism.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 315d
Because it comes from an insecurity she was trying to fix.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 315d
Sure but so can her hatred of immigrants, her career, and her murdering of a puppy. Should those also be off limits for criticism and ridicule?
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 315d
No, those are things she does.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 315d
As were the procedures she voluntarily did to herself.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 315d
Those procedures modified her though and are a part of her now. You can argue this all you want. I really don't care. You are the one that will undercut your own arguments with ad hominem attacks that people will easily dismiss. It doesn't matter how good your other arguments are, if you give someone even one reason to disregard you they will. You only hurt yourself.
railcar@midwest.social · 23 pts · 315d
Because she is evil, facts don't matter to her. There is no debate. No one is being convinced of anything. Belittling fascists is a known nonviolent tactic that works because they are nihilistic narcissists. I'd never say demeaning things about strangers, but public figure Nazis are fair game for anything that bruises their ego.
Figaredo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
This!
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 315d
You're delusional if you think you are debating her. No, the intent would be to convince enough people that her beliefs and actions are vile.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 316d
While you are technically correct, I think it is fair to draw a line at Mar-a-Lago face. Ridiculing white supremacist bimbos who intentionally choose that look... I am kind of okay with that. Because the look itself is a symbol of hate.
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 20 pts · 316d
She doesn't see why it's a problem to kill furry friends, and would continue to do so.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 315d
I always find it particularly weaselly when hard-right politicians try to invoke progressive values to deflect criticism back on their critics. As if she and her cadre aren’t obsessed with looks.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 315d
You see, she thinks shooting dogs is just plain funny, why would she be offended?
Psythik@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 314d
Really shows how fucked in the head she is. Doesn't see anything wrong with shooting dogs, doesn't even care that she's being made fun of for it. Only cares about herself. The very definition of a narcissist and psychopath.
sunbytes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 315d
No, you're right, Ms Noem. The men's appearances were not mocked at all by the South park team.
/s
SkyezOpen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 314d
The mini Vance always makes me chuckle.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 314d
Plus, when you go very far out of your way and spend who-fucking-knows-how-much taxpayer-funded salary to make yourself look batshit insane, you should be ridiculed for it. You chose that wretched, gnarled visage, now live with its hideous consequences.
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 316d
Noted Antifa Leader Chappell Roan... LOL.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 316d
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 58 pts · 316d
Lol! So, that was a fuckin' lie.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 316d
Off the streets and into the Whitehouse.
redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 316d
So Tricia killed Jeffrey Epstein? 🤔 No, Bill Barr
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 316d
It's true in the same way that the united states killed a bunch of pedos in Nagasaki. When you engage in mass indiscriminate violence you will manage to hit a few people who are universally detested
BC_viper@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 315d
One less ice agent is a better world. Take that how you will. Make the world a better place.
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 315d
This is dumb. The point is to hurt them. All's fair in love and war folks.
maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 316d
They always like to say these idiots are law enforcement. Heck even our law enforcement needs more training hours to be in charge of legally killing someone on the clock.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 316d
If a few more wealthy celebrities take this kind of radical action, I'm sure things will change.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 316d
Our departments in charge of national security are more on social media than actually keeping Americans safe. Like no one wants to hear about ICE's opinions on pop stars!
Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 314d
Any criticism of fascism means you're threatening violence against innocent brownshirts.
Say FDT? Congrats, you're going to jail for making an attempt on the president's life.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 316d
The Nazis are going to be all over her.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 314d
Remember when Lemmy hated her for following "You don't have to endorse Harris, you can just vote and that's enough" like so many people said? And then she did and people hated her for not endorsing Harris but still voting for Harris?
Looks like some still are mad at her for it.
return2ozma@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 314d
I remember
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 314d
Wasn't she starting out this year gaslighting her fans and blaming them for associating her with politics even though she voluntarily had a public crash-out against Kamala over Palestine?
I just can't see her as the one people should rally behind since she seems to only want to engage with politics when it suites her, not whenever its genuinely important.