Amazon's Ring to partner with Flock, a network of AI cameras used by ICE, feds, and police
https://techcrunch.com/2025/10/16/amazons-ring-to-partner-with-flock-a-network-of-ai-cameras-used-by-ice-feds-and-police/
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Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 77 pts · 299d
Who could have predicted this?
DNS@discuss.online · 19 pts · 299d
It's not shocking, but honestly surprised Amazon came late to the game. Surprise to no one, we already live in a heavy surveillance country. From our phones, to cars, TV's, computers, to shopping; we are all being watched. Yet, certain people lose their minds because Ring? Give me a kit-kat.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 298d
They've probably been doing it all a long, they're just making their data collection strategies public, in a political environment that won't attack them, even if the citizens do.
ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 299d
Go trick or treating like rest of us!
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 299d
Everyone i know?
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 299d
I do not visit homes with this garbage installed. I've got a little blurb written that I give to friends who own one, explaining why they're a problem and proposing some more privacy respecting alternatives. And before you ask, no, I don't have a lot of friends left.
Drusas@fedia.io · 33 pts · 299d
Send this to those friends.
cycadophyta@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
Could you send me the blurb?
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · -95 pts · 299d
You know it's an opt-in for the owners right? What are you doing anyways that makes you so worried police will catch you anyways?
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 299d
I have no respect for the 'nothing to hide, nothing to fear' argument, and I will not be engaging with it. You can simply Google why this is drastically wrong. It's not worth my energy to explain it.
LordCrom@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 299d
Right? When people tell me this i ask if they have given their keys to the cops with permission to come look whenever they feel like it
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 45 pts · 299d
Take 3 seconds to think about why this is a terrible way to think
While we're getting rid of our rights, let's just get rid of the entire justice system and democracy because people always do the right thing, especially cops who are never filmed all the time murdering people for their egos being hurt or just flagrant racism.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 299d
This HAS to be bait
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · -25 pts · 299d
Judging by all the pearl clutching, attacks and out of reality reactions going on, I'd say it was spot on.
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 297d
(Note the lack of even a basic attempt to address the actual material of the argument)
TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 299d
Maybe be brown? Seems like an easy way to get in trouble nowadays.
cycadophyta@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 297d
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · -52 pts · 299d
Weird. I'm brown and have brown neighbors. None of us are worried. Maybe you need to touch grass.
baines@lemmy.cafe · 37 pts · 299d
the US is literally in the midst of a nazi revival
you’re either not brown or a moron
Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 299d
I'm assuming that's an inclusive "or" As in they may be both!
athatet@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 298d
Brown people are getting disappeared into unmarked vans all over the country but I’m glad you aren’t worried.
cycadophyta@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 297d
Ah, y'all are some of the "good" browns...until you aren't.
Dumbass.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 298d
I'm transgender and my boyfriend is Latino. we've got plenty to worry about
_AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 299d
well given that the police don't seem to need a reason anymore, literally anything?
dan1101@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 299d
It's opt-in for now, but not if they don't get as many options as they want. Also ring cameras often show a lot more than your property they show the street and other neighbors houses as well.
Zomg@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 298d
In prep for the American social credit program.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 298d
I knew Ring was evil, but ....damn.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 10 pts · 299d
Well, at least my ex was smart enough to listen to me.
Still not smart enough to stay married to me, but good healthy decisions need to be praised for what they were.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 299d
There it is. Goddamn it took awhile for this shoe to drop.
37piecesof_flare@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 298d
Any recommendations for a replacement?
moseschrute@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 298d
Ubiquiti. Their cameras record to a local NVR. If you only need one or two cameras, they have excellent router + NVR combos for a good price that will run circles around your default ISP WiFi router. If you’re interested, I can tell you what my setup looks like, how much it cost, and what I would have done differently.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 298d
Please do. I have always been interested in the idea of setting up some cameras, but everything seems to be cloud based and I’m not touching that. If I can write directly to my NAS, that would be ideal.
moseschrute@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 298d
If you have a NAS setup already, you might be DIY enough to setup something cheaper. Ubiquiti has been nice because it’s self hosted, but without having to do much work yourself. You buy the box that runs the software, the cameras, plug it in, and it just works. You pay a premium for that, but there are no monthly fees.
I have:
What I may have done differently.
If you want more than 2 cameras, or you have a house instead of an apartment, you might want to consider one of their dedicated NVRs, and either multiple U7 Wall Pros, or one of their bigger WiFi access points. You can spend a lot of money on ubiquity quickly, but I don’t think you should write off their entry level equipment because of that. I’m very happy with the ~$700 I spend on my small setup, and that setup will have plenty of headroom for years. And if you buy used or older models I bet you can get a router, access point, and doorbell for under $400. Or incrementally upgrade what you have.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 297d
Seconding the ubiquiti comment. Buy used parts on ebay (except the NVR, a somewhat recent update sunsetted the old system) like switches, USG, WAP…buy used if you can. Ubiquiti stuff is well built, at least “prosumer” quality if not better. New stuff is really pricey, and I bought new initially, but recently added on to our network and bought all ebay stuff for 1/3 the price.
projectsquared@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 298d
I invested in a Reolink NVR and cameras over the summer. They’ve been an improvement over the Nest/Google cameras. Higher resolution, farther night vision, local storage, and I get notifications on my phone faster than I did with the Nest/Google. No annual/monthly fees which is also a bonus.
I’m replacing our ring doorbells with Reolink in the very near future.
Zomg@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 298d
Ubiquiti g4 doorbell maybe. It requires investment into the echo system but having its recordings locally stored is what I like about it.
Melobol@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 299d
I'm just going to leave this here:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ