Same here. It helped that their "personalized suggestions" seemed increasingly whatever the music industry wanted to push and nothing related to my musical tastes.
100% they've started gaming the algorithm to reduce artist payouts. Ambient music is rife with ai generated tracks taking negotiated rates, other genres will surely follow.
So that's a big fuck no for me, gonna need to replace it in the morning. Someone mentioned Tidal on the article, anyone have experience to give it or others a recommendation?
Identical "it's a library, not a radio" style if possible but not run by fools would be ideal. Thanks.
I dumped Spotify for tidal. I have never compared what each has, but I have never run into anything I was looking to play not being on tidal.
The biggest difference I have noticed, tidal loses its place in my playlist when the app completely closes. It also loses place on a song when reopening from time to time. Nothing that is a deal breaker.
I switched to tidal from Spotify last year and am very happy. It just does music - no audio books, videos, podcasts - but to my mind that's a feature. Music quality is far far better. The algorithm for recommendations I think is good.
I found streaming on the move less reliable until I dropped the audio quality and now it's solid.
I had stopped collecting MP3s in the late 00s when Spotify first became a thing, but then a couple years ago I decided to drop streaming and modernize my digital collection (replace most MP3s with FLAC). Plexamp is a really good mobile music player, and on desktop I use Foobar2000.
When I want to listen to something new I use YouTube Music, which is ass but comes with my premium subscription. If I think I’ll listen again to that music I sail the high seas for the FLACs.
Overall has made me more intimately connected to my collection, doesn’t feed Spotify a dime, and guarantees lossless quality. Took a bit of effort but was worth it.
I switched to Qobuz a few months ago ago, I am not too impressed as I use it mostly for the car and its CarPlay app is dire. I have to keep specifying to play via Bluetooth, and it drops out a lot. Searching is also hard.
Bringing over the libraries has been hit and miss.
I wanted it to work but it didn’t for me.
It seems to be very focused on showing me their idea of new music rather than what I would listen to. For me functionality should come first.
Tidal and Deezer are both absolutely horrible for free users (can only listen to the first 30 seconds of a song), and according to some of the people on this wonderful website, support Israel. I asked about alternatives yesterday, and it's the only thread I've ever made. Lots of creative solutions on there. I personally recommend Blockify on pc (spotify adblocker) and Newpipe (adless youtube) on Android. Have fun!
Once Pandora went in the shitter, I moved on to self-hosting. So I have never used Spotify. As long as you take a little time once in a while to discover some new bands and add them to you collection its great.
Subscription cancelled and am LOVING the switch over to Qobuz... Feeding Qobuz, Tidal, and my local collection through roon, which can then be shared externally to my family via roon arc. I get that the roon component has a relatively high start up cost/subscription cost but it feels worth it to get off a platform that is pushing views that directly conflict with my own (I'm latino and don't love them running ICE ads - if I get gunned down in the street for having a moustache and tanning well, Spotify will partially be to blame).
Edit: I'm sure there are cheaper (or free) options and many of you are tech savvy. Where there's a will, there's likely a way. Eg having a massive local library that you can access out and about.
Edit 2: Spotify lossless is mid-tier at best. Get that flac/192khz audio friends. Your ears deserve it when available.
I recommend navidrome to anyone who wants to own their music, but still be able to stream. It was quite easy to set up, and has worked fairly well--though I haven't been super happy with ios clients for my partner.
Buy your music on Bandcamp. Torrent everything else.
Buying records on Bandcamp is sweet cause then you get DRM free digital versions as well.
I'll leave Spotify as soon as I can find a way to replay my 6000 song playlist
What's with the down votes? I'm already working on leaving, Can I first make sure I have another way to enjoy music? Apparently not. Nobody is allowed to enjoy anything anymore untill all world problems have been resolved! Until then, if you dare to even try and enjoy something, we will judge you!
Did not know that I personally and alone and responsible for all the Nazis existing in this world. I never knew I was that important
Or, you know, there is this pragmatic part where I have a list of 6000 songs that I built up over years that I want to have whatever I do, but nope, can't first try and figure that out, we nee to run away every time this shit happens (and it happens a lot)
Seriously dude, please understand that people also have their own lives to live, still, even when he oxides happen. Did you sacrifice everything in your life to stop this genocide? Cuz if you didn't, know that you personally are responsible for the second coming of Hitler! You and nobody else!
I used https://www.tunemymusic.com/ to move from Spotify to tidal. I had a lot of saves and playlists so had to use a paid plan but it was $5 or something and it worked well.
Apple music has a built in library transfer system. I moved over to apple music over the weekend because they also have the ability to add songs to someone else's queue - something my friends and I use a lot. Was super easy to set up and the quality is noticeably better than Spotify's.
Same, I think I am gonna have to go back to the old ways of downloading my music to my device, or self hosting. I just need the time to sort it. I need a good guide.
38 Comments
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 305d
Pulled the cord when they went full rogan
manxu@piefed.social · 22 pts · 305d
Same here. It helped that their "personalized suggestions" seemed increasingly whatever the music industry wanted to push and nothing related to my musical tastes.
CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 305d
100% they've started gaming the algorithm to reduce artist payouts. Ambient music is rife with ai generated tracks taking negotiated rates, other genres will surely follow.
http://web.archive.org/web/20241221144306/https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-liz-pelly-spotify-musicians/
ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com · 29 pts · 305d
So that's a big fuck no for me, gonna need to replace it in the morning. Someone mentioned Tidal on the article, anyone have experience to give it or others a recommendation?
Identical "it's a library, not a radio" style if possible but not run by fools would be ideal. Thanks.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 305d
I dumped Spotify for tidal. I have never compared what each has, but I have never run into anything I was looking to play not being on tidal.
The biggest difference I have noticed, tidal loses its place in my playlist when the app completely closes. It also loses place on a song when reopening from time to time. Nothing that is a deal breaker.
CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 305d
I switched to tidal from Spotify last year and am very happy. It just does music - no audio books, videos, podcasts - but to my mind that's a feature. Music quality is far far better. The algorithm for recommendations I think is good.
I found streaming on the move less reliable until I dropped the audio quality and now it's solid.
unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 305d
I definitely notice a difference in quality with Tidal in my car, but not so much with my earbuds.
seitzer@piefed.social · 22 pts · 305d
errer@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 305d
I had stopped collecting MP3s in the late 00s when Spotify first became a thing, but then a couple years ago I decided to drop streaming and modernize my digital collection (replace most MP3s with FLAC). Plexamp is a really good mobile music player, and on desktop I use Foobar2000.
When I want to listen to something new I use YouTube Music, which is ass but comes with my premium subscription. If I think I’ll listen again to that music I sail the high seas for the FLACs.
Overall has made me more intimately connected to my collection, doesn’t feed Spotify a dime, and guarantees lossless quality. Took a bit of effort but was worth it.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 305d
What the fuck. I’ve been meaning to get rid of Spotify for a long time just going to pull the plug.
I hear the music app Qobuz is good and its French
Like 5 years ago i used Soundiiz to migrate my music around. Anyone used it lately or have others?
theyllneverfindmehere@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 305d
I used Spotify2YoutubeMusic to migrate. It's free and it worked pretty well.
https://github.com/mahdi-y/Spotify2YoutubeMusic
Don't get me wrong. I don't love Google but I'm doing my best at the moment.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
You can easily combine this with yt-dlp to quickly get a local library. Obviously not great quality, but it's a good start.
Cherry@piefed.social · 2 pts · 304d
I switched to Qobuz a few months ago ago, I am not too impressed as I use it mostly for the car and its CarPlay app is dire. I have to keep specifying to play via Bluetooth, and it drops out a lot. Searching is also hard.
Bringing over the libraries has been hit and miss.
I wanted it to work but it didn’t for me.
It seems to be very focused on showing me their idea of new music rather than what I would listen to. For me functionality should come first.
Phegan@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 304d
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 304d
Guess they don’t need my money.
Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 304d
Rule book says they get a minimum of five more price hikes before walking back their status and then any retention of users yields a quick return.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 8 pts · 305d
Tidal and Deezer are both absolutely horrible for free users (can only listen to the first 30 seconds of a song), and according to some of the people on this wonderful website, support Israel. I asked about alternatives yesterday, and it's the only thread I've ever made. Lots of creative solutions on there. I personally recommend Blockify on pc (spotify adblocker) and Newpipe (adless youtube) on Android. Have fun!
ztpq@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 305d
I'm looking for something that does multi-device remote control similar to how Spotify does. Deezer just cancels playback on the other device.
BingBong@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 305d
If you are comfortable self hosting then that's a really good solution. No device limits has been a godsend to me.
ztpq@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 304d
Not sure what app you're referring to since Deezer just doesn't have that feature.
I could be self-hosting though as I'm in the process of setting up a server.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
navidrome or gonic.
symfonium or tempo fork
spend the first couple of weeks rating songs, make some smart playlists with rating filters, kick back.
The_v@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 305d
Once Pandora went in the shitter, I moved on to self-hosting. So I have never used Spotify. As long as you take a little time once in a while to discover some new bands and add them to you collection its great.
Sludge@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 304d
Subscription cancelled and am LOVING the switch over to Qobuz... Feeding Qobuz, Tidal, and my local collection through roon, which can then be shared externally to my family via roon arc. I get that the roon component has a relatively high start up cost/subscription cost but it feels worth it to get off a platform that is pushing views that directly conflict with my own (I'm latino and don't love them running ICE ads - if I get gunned down in the street for having a moustache and tanning well, Spotify will partially be to blame).
Edit: I'm sure there are cheaper (or free) options and many of you are tech savvy. Where there's a will, there's likely a way. Eg having a massive local library that you can access out and about.
Edit 2: Spotify lossless is mid-tier at best. Get that flac/192khz audio friends. Your ears deserve it when available.
Technoworcester@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 304d
Love quobuz. So happy i moved over.
Great for listening in the kitchen and during car drives. The Friday suggestions list is great as well.
Front room has the vinyl player and book shelves!
coltn@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 304d
I recommend navidrome to anyone who wants to own their music, but still be able to stream. It was quite easy to set up, and has worked fairly well--though I haven't been super happy with ios clients for my partner. Buy your music on Bandcamp. Torrent everything else. Buying records on Bandcamp is sweet cause then you get DRM free digital versions as well.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 305d
I'll leave Spotify as soon as I can find a way to replay my 6000 song playlist
What's with the down votes? I'm already working on leaving, Can I first make sure I have another way to enjoy music? Apparently not. Nobody is allowed to enjoy anything anymore untill all world problems have been resolved! Until then, if you dare to even try and enjoy something, we will judge you!
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · 9 pts · 305d
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 304d
Wow
Did not know that I personally and alone and responsible for all the Nazis existing in this world. I never knew I was that important
Or, you know, there is this pragmatic part where I have a list of 6000 songs that I built up over years that I want to have whatever I do, but nope, can't first try and figure that out, we nee to run away every time this shit happens (and it happens a lot)
Seriously dude, please understand that people also have their own lives to live, still, even when he oxides happen. Did you sacrifice everything in your life to stop this genocide? Cuz if you didn't, know that you personally are responsible for the second coming of Hitler! You and nobody else!
It's quite disingenuous to make these arguments.
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 304d
The problem is that you think this is all about you.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 304d
Bye bye troll
whiwake@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 304d
Bye conservative
CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 305d
I used https://www.tunemymusic.com/ to move from Spotify to tidal. I had a lot of saves and playlists so had to use a paid plan but it was $5 or something and it worked well.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 304d
I didnt have a good experience with site. It didnt work for me at all for some reason.
Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 304d
I used Soundiiz.com to transfer all of my playlists and it was really easy.
reactionality@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 305d
There are ways to export playlists externally. Not through Spotify. Just look some up online.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 304d
Soundiiz Or https://github.com/mahdi-y/Spotify2YoutubeMusic
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 1 pts · 304d
Use Blockify.
ski11erboi@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 304d
Apple music has a built in library transfer system. I moved over to apple music over the weekend because they also have the ability to add songs to someone else's queue - something my friends and I use a lot. Was super easy to set up and the quality is noticeably better than Spotify's.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 304d
Nope, not routingy money from one shit company to another. I want to get rid of all corporate media, I just want media
Cherry@piefed.social · 0 pts · 303d
Same, I think I am gonna have to go back to the old ways of downloading my music to my device, or self hosting. I just need the time to sort it. I need a good guide.