Well.... I have dabbled in so many things but never stuck on any, so I guess I don't have any hobbies worthy of the title. Makes me sound boring instead of the truth: spicy and incompetent.
I usually just tell people "I fix shit" or "I build things". Computers and bicycles have been somewhat constant throughout my life though.
Don't get into salt water fish tanks... pistol shrimp are cool as shit... but getting the tank right is not for the ADHD person :)
Comic books even just keeping up with current Arcs... get pretty expensive and then you just have a backlog of 30+ books to read
Beer making is fun... Cleaning up sucks
Gardening wasn't for me... I would get home from work everyday and have to spend an hour or two taming my tomato plants (Like vegetables... hate gardening)
I am sure I have more hobbies abandoned than this. Thats the fun of ADHD. I have abandoned more projects than most people have started
I tell them my hobby is starting new hobbies. And then I list a few of the latest obsessive bursts (this year, rock painting and roller derby and Pilates and paint by numbers and gardening).
Haha, this is what I say, too! "My hobby is collecting new hobbies." There are supplies for no fewer than five types of crafts on my living room table right now. (Also water bottles, several video game controllers, a solved Rubik's cube, my medications, and some cannabis paraphernalia.)
Society tends to value highly specialised knowledge, but this doesn't mean you are worth any less. Especially if we're talking about hobbies, if flitting between so many different interests that your knowledgebase feels super shallow, then that's fine. Some people don't get it, and would judge you negatively for it, but you probably wouldn't get along well with them anyway.
I bet that there's loads that I could learn from you, and I wouldn't mind that the depth of your knowledge in any one area isn't very deep; I just like learning cool stuff, and I've found that people who know lots of little bits about lots of things are some of the most interesting people for that.
You are the entity that observes:
Your thoughts, your feelings, your mental health and diagnosis', your physical body, sensations, touch and the world.
Blew my mind to realise I am not my thoughts, I'm the entity that observes my thoughts. Because I feel like my thoughts. Yk. But I'm not!!
The way I heard it described is that your brain, just like any other organ, has a function, and that is to produce thoughts. Just like you can't stop your heart or quit breathing, you can't stop your brain from thinking. Just like you can do things to speed up or slow down your heartbeat, or breathe more or less air, you can do things that influence your thoughts. But you can't shut it off entirely.
This is what I learned in cognitive behavioral therapy.
For those who cannot afford therapy right now:
Thoughts shape our emotions, and in turn, our emotions drive our behavior.
Therefore, to combat problematic behavior, one must:
Identify the facts of the problematic behavior; then,
Identify the emotions driving our behavior; then,
Analyze and challenge the thoughts behind the emotions.
We do this because many of the thoughts driving our emotions are not accurate and have to be challenged. These false thoughts are known as cognitive distortions.
Lol. Same. I only realised I might have some level of ADHD when so many memes rang true to me. Perhaps that's how it should be diagnosed. It's certainly quicker and easier.
"You" are not which hobbies you have or the topics you're interested in. The fact that I can even form this sentence and it's not nonsensical should already prove that. I feel like it is self-evident.
You exist, and you go through multiple interests. That means there must be some "you" that is not connected to these interests.
So, why do you define yourself by your interests? Because in our society, specialization is disproportionately rewarded, while a multi-spectrum approach (forgot the word, generalism?) is not. Everyone wants to feel useful in society and we're made to not feel that. But it's not that having ADHD makes us useless, it's just that almost no one bothers to invest in/use our strengths.
So, no, this is neither an attack, nor can you not have a sense of identity. Multiple changing interests are not bad. Not being specialized in one thing is not bad. I'm proud of knowing a lot about a lot of different things. I like who I am, with ADHD, and you should, too.
No but see its in the book of sick and bad so it can only be bad. Sorry you were misinformed, I'll give you a moment to stop feeling good about yourself before you respond.
I'm sorry, I was enjoying myself in RL the last few days and haven't visited Lemmy. Thanks for your message, I will now commence feeling bad based on your suggestion and fall into deep self doubt and feelings of unworthiness.
This is the way. To cycle through several times may take years, but over time all the bits of practice add up. Until one day, you look at what you've created, and realize that you've actually gotten quite skilled.
When I started using a camera as a teen, I didn't let people call me a "photographer." I was just "a person who likes taking pictures." To me, being a "photographer" implied possessing skills and purpose beyond what I'd had.
A few years later, I came across some blog about various artistic principles, including ratios and framing. I went back through some of my favorite shots and was surprised to realize they already followed those rules. Apparently, over the years, I'd picked up a bunch of photography skills that people take classes to learn. It just took tons of practice and experimentation, which I returned to in cycles.
I've been paying for a guitar teacher for 3 years. Some weeks I only touch it in class, but it has been the only consistent hobby I have ever had. My desk is currently littered by 5 different microcontrollers, 3 single board computers and 2 mesh radios. I barely ever touched any of them
I have found that mine often come back around, even if it's many years later. Which is nice because I already have a bunch of books or whatever on the subject, though I had previously barely touched them. So this time I might read a few chapters. Or even the whole book! - I've noticed my attention has gotten somewhat better as I age. Many topics I've returned to 2 or 3 times now. It was really helpful for me to realize that. Yes, it's an extremely long list, but it is not infinite or completely without structure.
When I was younger I defined myself by the things I liked, and others similarly, you just start to see more depth and wisdom the more years you're lucky enough to kick around, in this planet, I think. And then you start to see, mostly the stuff people like is just funneled coping mechanisms. I can now tell you what peoples traumas are, by what they like. (lol)
I like extremely violent realistically gory video games, firearms (I own several modern rifles and handguns), and Zen Buddhism (meditation and mindfulness). What are my traumas?
I feel like that's one of those things that, even if you could do it, you shouldn't. I wasn't really being serious, so much.
If you're sure you want me to attempt to play mind reader, just for funsies, I suppose I could. My trauma is I had to grow up guessing what everyone was gunna do, because none of the adults were even a tiny bit safe, so I got sort of a little bit good at the guessing game, sort of. I've never tested it on internet strangers though.
That said, my dating history would completely oppose previous statements... So maybe I just think I'm a little bit good at something, but really I suck.
I wouldn't say "more broken". There's a lot of diversity across the ADHD community, especially when we account for how other life circumstances intersect with ADHD. For me, for example, I find that the vast majority of what I typically consider to be "ADHD-related brokenness" is actually probably more linked to past trauma.
I think it's important to recognise that there is no universal ADHD experience because in many respects, we're still figuring out what the hell ADHD actually is ("we" here meaning humanity); Science plays a big part in increasing our understanding of ADHD, but so does community knowledge (which includes memes)
If you have started a hobby, then you probably know enough to fake it for a brief conversation at least. Maybe a few dead projects laying around that you could point to? I don’t think they will give you a pop quiz. Oh well, you might have to pick up that hobby again to cover for your lies.
Haha so far I haven't met another guitarist building pedals so I'm in the clear. When I do I'ma have to shift the conversation to software lol. Or learn from them.
Guitar pedals are extremely simple to breadboard if you know electronics. Drive is "just" one or many transistors amplifying the signal out of the guitar. I haven't looked at what delay would take
I can make a circuit work sometimes but I don't have the knowledge to debug my errors.
I have considered creating VST effects for DAWs. I’m better at software than electronics and I have started doing music production so that would be a better fit for me.
Yeah that'd be awesome! You can probably make some really cool sounds
I haven't yet wanted to record anything I cared about so not tried to learn any DAWs yet
63 Comments
moondoggie@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 315d
Attacking yourself, but swinging so wildly that you’re smacking the rest of us
danekrae@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 315d
You are not your work, hobby or even friends.
Are you kind, empathic, do you help to elevate others; that is how we should define ourselves.
You are you, and that's good enough.
i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 315d
Oh yeah
Oh no
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
This is amazing
public_image_ltd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 315d
This is exactly it. Still cool that I can fix almost everything and giving up is not an option. Took me very long to figure this out though.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 315d
I hate that this is true for me.
Do you have any hobbies?
Well.... I have dabbled in so many things but never stuck on any, so I guess I don't have any hobbies worthy of the title. Makes me sound boring instead of the truth: spicy and incompetent.
cubism_pitta@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 315d
I usually just tell people "I fix shit" or "I build things". Computers and bicycles have been somewhat constant throughout my life though.
Don't get into salt water fish tanks... pistol shrimp are cool as shit... but getting the tank right is not for the ADHD person :)
Comic books even just keeping up with current Arcs... get pretty expensive and then you just have a backlog of 30+ books to read
Beer making is fun... Cleaning up sucks
Gardening wasn't for me... I would get home from work everyday and have to spend an hour or two taming my tomato plants (Like vegetables... hate gardening)
I am sure I have more hobbies abandoned than this. Thats the fun of ADHD. I have abandoned more projects than most people have started
moistclump@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 315d
I tell them my hobby is starting new hobbies. And then I list a few of the latest obsessive bursts (this year, rock painting and roller derby and Pilates and paint by numbers and gardening).
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 315d
Haha, this is what I say, too! "My hobby is collecting new hobbies." There are supplies for no fewer than five types of crafts on my living room table right now. (Also water bottles, several video game controllers, a solved Rubik's cube, my medications, and some cannabis paraphernalia.)
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 314d
Honestly, moreso than starting new hobbies I DON'T start them until I know everything about it, which is never.
moistclump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 314d
“My hobby is learning about new hobbies!”
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 314d
There you go!
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 314d
Roller Derby - playing, reffing, or spectating? Derby is awesome!
moistclump@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 314d
Trying to learn how to skate and all the rules first, hope the interest stays long enough for me to get to play a game!
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 314d
Don't forget the most important step: choosing a name!
danekrae@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 315d
So you're a generalist.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 315d
I'm a dang puddle.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 315d
Society tends to value highly specialised knowledge, but this doesn't mean you are worth any less. Especially if we're talking about hobbies, if flitting between so many different interests that your knowledgebase feels super shallow, then that's fine. Some people don't get it, and would judge you negatively for it, but you probably wouldn't get along well with them anyway.
I bet that there's loads that I could learn from you, and I wouldn't mind that the depth of your knowledge in any one area isn't very deep; I just like learning cool stuff, and I've found that people who know lots of little bits about lots of things are some of the most interesting people for that.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 315d
You are the entity that observes: Your thoughts, your feelings, your mental health and diagnosis', your physical body, sensations, touch and the world.
Blew my mind to realise I am not my thoughts, I'm the entity that observes my thoughts. Because I feel like my thoughts. Yk. But I'm not!!
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 315d
The way I heard it described is that your brain, just like any other organ, has a function, and that is to produce thoughts. Just like you can't stop your heart or quit breathing, you can't stop your brain from thinking. Just like you can do things to speed up or slow down your heartbeat, or breathe more or less air, you can do things that influence your thoughts. But you can't shut it off entirely.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 315d
Woah. I love that explanation!
quetzaldilla@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 314d
This is what I learned in cognitive behavioral therapy.
For those who cannot afford therapy right now:
Thoughts shape our emotions, and in turn, our emotions drive our behavior.
Therefore, to combat problematic behavior, one must:
We do this because many of the thoughts driving our emotions are not accurate and have to be challenged. These false thoughts are known as cognitive distortions.
Worksheet.
knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 315d
Can you guys please stop posting memes that describe me perfectly. I was never diagnosed with ADHD
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 315d
Oh! Oh! I already posted a meme about that!
portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 314d
Lol. Same. I only realised I might have some level of ADHD when so many memes rang true to me. Perhaps that's how it should be diagnosed. It's certainly quicker and easier.
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 315d
"You" are not which hobbies you have or the topics you're interested in. The fact that I can even form this sentence and it's not nonsensical should already prove that. I feel like it is self-evident.
You exist, and you go through multiple interests. That means there must be some "you" that is not connected to these interests.
So, why do you define yourself by your interests? Because in our society, specialization is disproportionately rewarded, while a multi-spectrum approach (forgot the word, generalism?) is not. Everyone wants to feel useful in society and we're made to not feel that. But it's not that having ADHD makes us useless, it's just that almost no one bothers to invest in/use our strengths.
So, no, this is neither an attack, nor can you not have a sense of identity. Multiple changing interests are not bad. Not being specialized in one thing is not bad. I'm proud of knowing a lot about a lot of different things. I like who I am, with ADHD, and you should, too.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 313d
No but see its in the book of sick and bad so it can only be bad. Sorry you were misinformed, I'll give you a moment to stop feeling good about yourself before you respond.
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 310d
I'm sorry, I was enjoying myself in RL the last few days and haven't visited Lemmy. Thanks for your message, I will now commence feeling bad based on your suggestion and fall into deep self doubt and feelings of unworthiness.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 310d
Thank you for correcting your mistake.
Makeitstop@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 315d
Am I the only one here who looked at that picture and thought "Oh look, the rhino's giving birth."
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 315d
Lmao! I gotta watch that movie again now
omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 315d
I have a wide range of hobbies, I cycle between them. Slowly I've become pretty good at most of them
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
This is the way. To cycle through several times may take years, but over time all the bits of practice add up. Until one day, you look at what you've created, and realize that you've actually gotten quite skilled.
When I started using a camera as a teen, I didn't let people call me a "photographer." I was just "a person who likes taking pictures." To me, being a "photographer" implied possessing skills and purpose beyond what I'd had.
A few years later, I came across some blog about various artistic principles, including ratios and framing. I went back through some of my favorite shots and was surprised to realize they already followed those rules. Apparently, over the years, I'd picked up a bunch of photography skills that people take classes to learn. It just took tons of practice and experimentation, which I returned to in cycles.
chocrates@piefed.world · 6 pts · 315d
😭
I've been paying for a guitar teacher for 3 years. Some weeks I only touch it in class, but it has been the only consistent hobby I have ever had. My desk is currently littered by 5 different microcontrollers, 3 single board computers and 2 mesh radios. I barely ever touched any of them
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
Yeah, music, cooking and video games are pretty much my only consistent hobbies. I think that's because they all have genres
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 315d
I really should get tested...
Galadriel@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 314d
I have found that mine often come back around, even if it's many years later. Which is nice because I already have a bunch of books or whatever on the subject, though I had previously barely touched them. So this time I might read a few chapters. Or even the whole book! - I've noticed my attention has gotten somewhat better as I age. Many topics I've returned to 2 or 3 times now. It was really helpful for me to realize that. Yes, it's an extremely long list, but it is not infinite or completely without structure.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 315d
Fuck
Hupf@feddit.org · 3 pts · 314d
https://youtube.com/shorts/RYpm-leLUjk
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social · 3 pts · 315d
Super hardcore heavy ADHD here. This meme does not relate to me at all in any way. Am I simply more broken than you and lost empathy?
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 315d
When I was younger I defined myself by the things I liked, and others similarly, you just start to see more depth and wisdom the more years you're lucky enough to kick around, in this planet, I think. And then you start to see, mostly the stuff people like is just funneled coping mechanisms. I can now tell you what peoples traumas are, by what they like. (lol)
i_love_FFT@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 315d
I like skiing and video games. What are my traumas?
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 315d
There was a lol! I wasn't being serious! Why do I say things. I should just stop doing that.
i_love_FFT@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 315d
Haha, don't worry I was also joking!
I have the same trauma where I claim I can do stuff but end up with too many responsibilities.
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social · 1 pts · 315d
I like extremely violent realistically gory video games, firearms (I own several modern rifles and handguns), and Zen Buddhism (meditation and mindfulness). What are my traumas?
chocrates@piefed.world · 2 pts · 315d
I think they got distracted
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 315d
I feel like that's one of those things that, even if you could do it, you shouldn't. I wasn't really being serious, so much.
If you're sure you want me to attempt to play mind reader, just for funsies, I suppose I could. My trauma is I had to grow up guessing what everyone was gunna do, because none of the adults were even a tiny bit safe, so I got sort of a little bit good at the guessing game, sort of. I've never tested it on internet strangers though.
That said, my dating history would completely oppose previous statements... So maybe I just think I'm a little bit good at something, but really I suck.
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social · 1 pts · 314d
Just answer the question lol, damn
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 315d
I wouldn't say "more broken". There's a lot of diversity across the ADHD community, especially when we account for how other life circumstances intersect with ADHD. For me, for example, I find that the vast majority of what I typically consider to be "ADHD-related brokenness" is actually probably more linked to past trauma.
I think it's important to recognise that there is no universal ADHD experience because in many respects, we're still figuring out what the hell ADHD actually is ("we" here meaning humanity); Science plays a big part in increasing our understanding of ADHD, but so does community knowledge (which includes memes)
Mangoguana@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
This man is punishing himself so we don't have to!
LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 315d
You just claim the cool sounding ones.
chocrates@piefed.world · 1 pts · 315d
But what if you are talking to someone that actually does the hobby!?
LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 315d
If you have started a hobby, then you probably know enough to fake it for a brief conversation at least. Maybe a few dead projects laying around that you could point to? I don’t think they will give you a pop quiz. Oh well, you might have to pick up that hobby again to cover for your lies.
chocrates@piefed.world · 1 pts · 314d
Haha so far I haven't met another guitarist building pedals so I'm in the clear. When I do I'ma have to shift the conversation to software lol. Or learn from them.
LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 314d
Pedals, you say? I might have to look into that…
chocrates@piefed.world · 1 pts · 314d
Guitar pedals are extremely simple to breadboard if you know electronics. Drive is "just" one or many transistors amplifying the signal out of the guitar. I haven't looked at what delay would take
I can make a circuit work sometimes but I don't have the knowledge to debug my errors.
Edit: https://www.premierguitar.com/diy/pedal-projects/how-to-build-a-delay-pedal-kit
Delay looks hard. I'm starting to play with digital pedal stuff and that is just software, so I may try that instead.
LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 314d
I have considered creating VST effects for DAWs. I’m better at software than electronics and I have started doing music production so that would be a better fit for me.
chocrates@piefed.world · 1 pts · 314d
Yeah that'd be awesome! You can probably make some really cool sounds I haven't yet wanted to record anything I cared about so not tried to learn any DAWs yet
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 314d
Born to be an constantly evolving set of self evident ideas, forced to have an identity
Peekapooka@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 314d
Ouch, Did you have to get me too.
boovard@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 314d
When asked what my hobbies are, I never really know what to answer and finally realize that I have no real one. It always makes me sad
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 314d
Change is part of your identity. Everyones in fact. I have a huge collection of shirts with cool patterns / interests to choose from for example.