Which is weird because blonde hair often turns darker after childhood unless someone is always under sunlight and even then there's no garuntee. Hell I was born blonde and my hair turned rust red with age, the parts that have bleached from sunlight are just an even more rusty red. So it always looks artificial unless someone has had some very specific luck.
Vapid obsession with wealth and vanity to the point that they permanently fuck up their faces in the pursuit of some twisted version of "beauty" they will never have?
Oh! You mean the thing is "real women". Could be. But I've been thinking and I see a resemblance between the two and I guess the one on the left is the account holder, and the other one her daughter, and the post was inspired as much by egocentric pride as politics. In other words, I don't think she herself was all too clear on her meaning, just "look how good we both look".
I believe we’re all overthinking this. Right wingers are overwhelmingly literal, especially religious nutjobs. They probably mean something extremely simplistic, like happiness or morality.
So recently I learned from a podcast that fetishes usually are political. Trends are conservatives are into stuff against hertero-norm beliefs. I don't wanna get into examples
because it feels racist since it is racist.
Well at least they don’t lack self esteem and feel the need to attach their identity to a political party. Like not many democrat voting women call themselves a Democrat woman.
They can both have wild daddy issues, but conservatives have the "daddy was always right!" type, lefty girls would have...other types. Doesn't matter, not kosher or polite.
Though I'd bet there's at least one polycule out there with a registered Democrat woman and a bi dude with a grindr acct so, while homophobic it's also likely incorrect.
I dont see it as making fun of gay people, it's highlighting the hypocrisy that amongst the right, these men can't be happy about themselves being gay, and they must have beards to be accepted.
Or they fear being ostracized from their family and friends for being themselves, but fuck them since they're afraid to come out and lose everyone they know or even be assaulted, right?
Rationalize it however you need to (lord knows those closeted republican gays do hahaha, yeah?) but tbh "haha gays" is still not the best punchline ever. Honestly at best it's hack. Got any good "haha trump look liek cheto" material on deck?
I mean, if you're making fun of closeted repressed gay people who are republicans, you're still making fun of closeted repressed gay people. And the punchline wasn't "haha republican," it was "haha gay."
I understand the rationalization that it's ok to make fun of them for being gay because they're assholes, but it's still making fun of them for being gay.
It's not homophobic. Nothing about this comment is critical of gay people. It is critical of conservatism making people live closeted lives where they have to marry people of the opposite sex all while actually desiring and secretly having gay relationships on the side instead of just being themselves. And they do that all while being hypocrites that vote and/or advocate against the rights of gay people and other marginalized groups.
Critical or not "gay" isn't necessarily the best punchline, it still insinuates there's something to mock about gayness, though I suppose your caveat is "only if it's closeted and repressed." They're still just as oppressed if not more than say someone who is openly gay and accepted by their family, and mocking them likely isn't going to convince them to come out, so idk if "it's ok because they're hypocrites" is actually the case. It seems to me these people are just as vulnerable as the rest of the gay population, repression and all, and might need more help because of all that.
But y'know don't let that spoil your good time, they probably have small wieners and are fat and gay and bald ha ha ha.
So A) fuck off with your putting words in my mouth at the end there. B) just because they are victims does not mean that they aren't also victimizers. That's the case more often than is ever comfortable to realize. These are modern day, Trump supporting Republicans. They hate queer people even if they are gay themselves. They vote against their interests. They may even welcome making their own sexual activies illegal or worse. They do not get my sympathy. Fuck them.
A) I didn't, it was a joke about how it's cool to be homophobic and body shame depending on the circumstances. A disdainful one as, like I probably have adequately demonstrated, I disagree with that all too common premise. You are only perpetuating the homophobic part though, to be fair.
B) "so yeah again I say 'haha gays' is fine because they're repressed enough to be dicks."
It'a got a real honophobic bent when you consider most of the people making these jokes are not queer folk, and doubly so when so many people fall over themselves to defend these jokes
would you tell a gay guy you don't know something like oh yeh hitler would have loved grindr? How about oh yeah trumps a (slur of your choice), look how camp he is, i bet he sucks off men in the oval office, thats why he's building a ball room, he loves balls?
Again, you seem to be missing the point. No one is equating evil people with being gay or gueerness in general. The joke is not "they are republican men, therefore they are gay," like you seem to be implying. The joke is that many pompous holier-than-thou gay-bashing conservative women ironically have husbands that are not attracted to them and cheat on them as a result of their conservatism.
That's because conservativism mandates people be their narrow definition of "normal". People that don't fit that definition then are made to be closeted about their "abnormalities" or express them in secret. Necessarily, that means many conservative gay men have conservative wives that they aren't attracted to. That part is sad for people forced to live under such circumstances. But for many, this is self imposed. And in that case, the irony of being bitten by their own shitty ideals, particularly while trying to brag about those ideals and put down others, is funny.
fuck i am tired of this joke, anyway the Republican party was historicaly more accepting to gay men in the 1960s, you know the party who talk about keeping the govt out of your life? The dems were full tilt on the lavender scare
Just because they talk about keeping the government out of your life doesn't mean they actually care about doing that. In fact, quite the opposite as the current administration exemplifies on a daily basis. Stop taking known liars at their word and the world starts making more sense.
They're not wrong, exactly, but they are also not right. The Dems used to be the racist conservatives and the Reps the pro-civil liberty, desegregation party. The confusion is that around the mid to late 1960s, the Democratic and Replican parties had an ideological flip, largely over the civil rights movement. So since the early 70s, Reps have been the right leaning party, while Dems have been more left leaning.
People making cynical arguments about the history of each party pre-1970 being the responsibility of the current party members, or coloring their current politics, ignores this fact of the shift in ideologies. It fails to put the responsibility on the ideology itself. It's the same shit when Republicans claim that they're the "Party of a Lincoln" and deserve credit for ending Slavery, even while trying to disenfranchise black voters, end racial protections, roll back the civil rights movement, and blame violent crime on the entire race. Conservativism is the problem, no matter what the party name is/was.
125 Comments
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 194 pts · 295d
Sexual competition pressures from children.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 295d
Fucking brutal lol
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -22 pts · 295d
Probably not your intention, but your joke contributes to the sexualisation of kids imo
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 295d
Highlighting the stated intentions of the president is not contributing. It’s satire
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 294d
Satire is dead. It's a factual statement.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 295d
In the same way your critique of my joke does, sure. If you say so.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 295d
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and if they don't look after it, it stinks.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 146 pts · 295d
Based on the lips, allergies to shellfish or nuts.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 295d
Mar-a-Lago face
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 24 pts · 295d
A number of individuals have been identified as or described as having Mar-a-Lago face. They include:
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 295d
Baseball game? Definitely the peanuts.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 295d
i was going to say fellatio "secretions":.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 295d
Lip filler and a bottle of bleach?
It is funny to me, but I guess it makes sense. Conservative "beauty" is some standard look because they value conformity.
Progressive beauty is diverse because we value difference.
Saffire@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 294d
Just gonna leave this here: Mar-a-Lago face
Shamber@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 294d
And this is why it's paramount to preserve Wikipedia
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
Its the perfect lie too. No doctor will ever try and take credit.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 293d
It is so ugly 😂😌
Saffire@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 292d
They're just making the exterior match the interior.
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 294d
Something like this was just on an episode of South Park. When the women become Christian, they get plastic surgery.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 294d
its almost always blonde hair too.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 294d
Which is weird because blonde hair often turns darker after childhood unless someone is always under sunlight and even then there's no garuntee. Hell I was born blonde and my hair turned rust red with age, the parts that have bleached from sunlight are just an even more rusty red. So it always looks artificial unless someone has had some very specific luck.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 293d
these people probably DYE thier hair blond.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 293d
That's why I referred it looking shit and artificial in reference to bleaching and dyeing. I've a bad case of swimmers ear so thinking hard.
Lucky_777@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 295d
Black eyes
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 66 pts · 295d
A humiliation and domination kink, because they love having their rights stripped from them and being dominated by the state
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 295d
Nawww, lots of Democrat women have those. They just keep it in the bedroom like civilized people.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 294d
Yeah or as I always say, just because something gets you off, doesn't mean it's a good way to run a society or even a life.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 295d
alot of white women needs the "mar-a-lago" face in order to have a conservative husband. its usually almost always blond people.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 295d
A running tab at the ER for "doorway-related" injuries.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 28 pts · 295d
or excessive white wine and anti-depressant consumption.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 295d
I think you meant rosé.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
Not white enough
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 295d
Certainly not the capacity to feel shame
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 295d
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 18 pts · 295d
Faith
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 295d
God she's so Christian
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 295d
I haven't watched South Park in a long time but boy did they nail that one.
archonet@lemy.lol · 50 pts · 295d
Brain damage.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 48 pts · 295d
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 295d
Vapid obsession with wealth and vanity to the point that they permanently fuck up their faces in the pursuit of some twisted version of "beauty" they will never have?
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 295d
I’m pretty sure that one crosses the political spectrum.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -25 pts · 295d
If all you have to say about someone, especially women, is theyre ugly consider saying nothing, look, it's easy:
except you can barely say that about dems
PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 295d
You really need to work on the reading comprehension. There is an enormous difference between exceptional vanity, and just being born ugly.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 295d
Don't get down on them for not understanding the difference, mirrors are prohibitively expensive in this economy.
victorz@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 295d
What are they even referring to? What are they saying democrat women do not have? I don't get it.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 39 pts · 295d
Yep. The comeback is great, but what did that GodlyNation person think is the thing? Fake blonde? Botox lips?
victorz@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 295d
They both have the look like "We both know what it is, and so should you 😉😉". I'm here like 😐😑😐
I guess you gotta be republican to get it.
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 20 pts · 295d
Voice Over: There must be more to life than having everything.
Donald Yes. there is, but I won't tell you what it is.
Jeffrey Nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Donald We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey Yes, we do, come think of it.
Donald Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?
Jeffrey As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Donald A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret.
Donald J. Trump
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
Was this like a recorded phone call between them or something? No, it was emails or texts or something, wasn't it. So creepy.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 294d
It’s the “poem” Trump wrote Epstein for his 50th birthday, inside of a drawing of a nude woman with Trumps signature for her bush.
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 294d
That was a pre-teen
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
Bruh 😐
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 295d
The joke is dems are trans i'm 99% sure
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 8 pts · 295d
Oh! You mean the thing is "real women". Could be. But I've been thinking and I see a resemblance between the two and I guess the one on the left is the account holder, and the other one her daughter, and the post was inspired as much by egocentric pride as politics. In other words, I don't think she herself was all too clear on her meaning, just "look how good we both look".
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
That would fit their understanding of statistics.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 294d
A certain je ne sais quoi. Because they're worse by any concrete measure.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
I believe we’re all overthinking this. Right wingers are overwhelmingly literal, especially religious nutjobs. They probably mean something extremely simplistic, like happiness or morality.
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
Maybe they're genuinely asking. Maybe they're just looking for engagement.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
That’s a perfectly reasonable conclusion. Super common social media nonsense.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 295d
A husband that isnt spraying blood from his throat!
littletranspunk@lemmus.org · 31 pts · 295d
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 35 pts · 295d
Silicone?
madjo@feddit.nl · 31 pts · 294d
A willingness to vote against their own interest.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 294d
No, Democrats do that too. Anyone who votes for the establishment is voting against their class interests.
madjo@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 294d
There are progressive democrats though that want to better the USA. Look at Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Kat Abugazaleh, Zohran Mamdani, to name a few.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
Only people in specific areas can vote for those examples.
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 295d
A wasted education?
Natanael@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 295d
You
guysgirls have an education?webp@mander.xyz · 31 pts · 294d
The desperate urge to put themselves above other women?
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 295d
A reprehensible, destructive world view based on hatred and lies?
Smokeless7048@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 294d
Crippling insecurity.
Grace_Schlick@lemmynsfw.com · 25 pts · 295d
Why are you assuming I wouldn't let my husband get some pipe?
ickplant@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 295d
Let me be more precise: a husband with a Grindr account the wife doesn’t know about and approve of.
lostoncalantha@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 295d
Bi erasure is strong
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz · 17 pts · 295d
Bi promiscuity stereotype is strong
HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 294d
Bruises
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 294d
black eyes, probably some pressuring of sex from a conservative husband, or BF.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 295d
Botox.
asteriskeverything@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 295d
So recently I learned from a podcast that fetishes usually are political. Trends are conservatives are into stuff against hertero-norm beliefs. I don't wanna get into examples because it feels racist since it is racist.
The trends for liberals are they are into bdsm.
victorz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 295d
I guess whatever is taboo within your social situation, eh.
asteriskeverything@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 295d
Yes that is exactly it! Much more succinct lol.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 295d
A lot of racists absolutely love interracial porn. Half of 4chan /b/ and /pol/ posts are about big black cocks.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 294d
For anyone else who wants to disappoint themselves
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 295d
Holy hell, this is a horrific burn ... but so true.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 294d
Well at least they don’t lack self esteem and feel the need to attach their identity to a political party. Like not many democrat voting women call themselves a Democrat woman.
Furbag@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 295d
Those faces could scare the stone off of a gargoyle.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 294d
A REVERSE meduasa.
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 294d
They look normal to me.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 294d
I didn’t even notice their faces
Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 294d
The proud absence of higher education?
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 294d
Bigass foreheads?
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 293d
blarth@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 294d
Those are “godly” women? Lip filler, tits on display, putting their vanity on the Internet?
This brand of Republicans sure is fucking weird.
jve@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
Are they?
I agree with the sentiment of your post here, but they just aren’t.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 295d
Accurately observed.
nagaram@startrek.website · 3 pts · 293d
I can't imagine being with someone who works this hard for approval.
Thanks republican men! You really took a bullet for us well adjusted men on this one.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
They can both have wild daddy issues, but conservatives have the "daddy was always right!" type, lefty girls would have...other types. Doesn't matter, not kosher or polite.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -14 pts · 295d
Haha gays amirite?
Though I'd bet there's at least one polycule out there with a registered Democrat woman and a bi dude with a grindr acct so, while homophobic it's also likely incorrect.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 295d
I dont see it as making fun of gay people, it's highlighting the hypocrisy that amongst the right, these men can't be happy about themselves being gay, and they must have beards to be accepted.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 295d
Exactly I like gays, I don't like self hating gays who try to hurt others.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 294d
Or they fear being ostracized from their family and friends for being themselves, but fuck them since they're afraid to come out and lose everyone they know or even be assaulted, right?
Rationalize it however you need to (lord knows those closeted republican gays do hahaha, yeah?) but tbh "haha gays" is still not the best punchline ever. Honestly at best it's hack. Got any good "haha trump look liek cheto" material on deck?
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
Maybe they shouldn't perpetuate prosecution of gay people? No one was laughing at gay people, get that chip off your shoulder
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 294d
I envy the world you live in where everything is so easy as to "just not bro."
"Just leave the cult bro fuck your family and everything you've ever known who cares if the members assault or kill you just be yourself™"
Hop on grindr, find a few, and tell them to quit being cowards. Maybe you'll help.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
No one said it was easy, take a deep breath, were not fighting you for you, were not making fun of gay people.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 294d
I mean, if you're making fun of closeted repressed gay people who are republicans, you're still making fun of closeted repressed gay people. And the punchline wasn't "haha republican," it was "haha gay."
I understand the rationalization that it's ok to make fun of them for being gay because they're assholes, but it's still making fun of them for being gay.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
We aren't making fun of them.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 295d
It's not homophobic. Nothing about this comment is critical of gay people. It is critical of conservatism making people live closeted lives where they have to marry people of the opposite sex all while actually desiring and secretly having gay relationships on the side instead of just being themselves. And they do that all while being hypocrites that vote and/or advocate against the rights of gay people and other marginalized groups.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 294d
Critical or not "gay" isn't necessarily the best punchline, it still insinuates there's something to mock about gayness, though I suppose your caveat is "only if it's closeted and repressed." They're still just as oppressed if not more than say someone who is openly gay and accepted by their family, and mocking them likely isn't going to convince them to come out, so idk if "it's ok because they're hypocrites" is actually the case. It seems to me these people are just as vulnerable as the rest of the gay population, repression and all, and might need more help because of all that.
But y'know don't let that spoil your good time, they probably have small wieners and are fat and gay and bald ha ha ha.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
So A) fuck off with your putting words in my mouth at the end there. B) just because they are victims does not mean that they aren't also victimizers. That's the case more often than is ever comfortable to realize. These are modern day, Trump supporting Republicans. They hate queer people even if they are gay themselves. They vote against their interests. They may even welcome making their own sexual activies illegal or worse. They do not get my sympathy. Fuck them.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 294d
A) I didn't, it was a joke about how it's cool to be homophobic and body shame depending on the circumstances. A disdainful one as, like I probably have adequately demonstrated, I disagree with that all too common premise. You are only perpetuating the homophobic part though, to be fair.
B) "so yeah again I say 'haha gays' is fine because they're repressed enough to be dicks."
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 294d
For being gay? No. For being hypocritical hateful dicks? Yes. Fuck them.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 294d
Sure whatever you need to rationalize it.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 294d
Eat me.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -10 pts · 295d
It'a got a real honophobic bent when you consider most of the people making these jokes are not queer folk, and doubly so when so many people fall over themselves to defend these jokes
would you tell a gay guy you don't know something like oh yeh hitler would have loved grindr? How about oh yeah trumps a (slur of your choice), look how camp he is, i bet he sucks off men in the oval office, thats why he's building a ball room, he loves balls?
literally dripping with contempt for queers
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 294d
Again, you seem to be missing the point. No one is equating evil people with being gay or gueerness in general. The joke is not "they are republican men, therefore they are gay," like you seem to be implying. The joke is that many pompous holier-than-thou gay-bashing conservative women ironically have husbands that are not attracted to them and cheat on them as a result of their conservatism.
That's because conservativism mandates people be their narrow definition of "normal". People that don't fit that definition then are made to be closeted about their "abnormalities" or express them in secret. Necessarily, that means many conservative gay men have conservative wives that they aren't attracted to. That part is sad for people forced to live under such circumstances. But for many, this is self imposed. And in that case, the irony of being bitten by their own shitty ideals, particularly while trying to brag about those ideals and put down others, is funny.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -21 pts · 295d
Harhar people I dont like are gay harhar
fuck i am tired of this joke, anyway the Republican party was historicaly more accepting to gay men in the 1960s, you know the party who talk about keeping the govt out of your life? The dems were full tilt on the lavender scare
vote socialist, read marx
ickplant@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 295d
This meme is not about disliking gay people at all.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 295d
Just because they talk about keeping the government out of your life doesn't mean they actually care about doing that. In fact, quite the opposite as the current administration exemplifies on a daily basis. Stop taking known liars at their word and the world starts making more sense.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 294d
This is your brain on pure theory
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 295d
Sauce?
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 294d
They're not wrong, exactly, but they are also not right. The Dems used to be the racist conservatives and the Reps the pro-civil liberty, desegregation party. The confusion is that around the mid to late 1960s, the Democratic and Replican parties had an ideological flip, largely over the civil rights movement. So since the early 70s, Reps have been the right leaning party, while Dems have been more left leaning.
People making cynical arguments about the history of each party pre-1970 being the responsibility of the current party members, or coloring their current politics, ignores this fact of the shift in ideologies. It fails to put the responsibility on the ideology itself. It's the same shit when Republicans claim that they're the "Party of a Lincoln" and deserve credit for ending Slavery, even while trying to disenfranchise black voters, end racial protections, roll back the civil rights movement, and blame violent crime on the entire race. Conservativism is the problem, no matter what the party name is/was.