That is correct, it's been quite awhile now since UEFI became standard but almost everyone still calls it the BIOS. Although I've noticed the word firmware is starting to be used more as well.
I mean, if what we're using is pulled from a chipset on the motherboard whose storage space isn't rewritable from the OS interface, wouldn't that be called firmware? You are using a flash chip to boot after all.
You are in fact correct. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) is the modernized version of the very very old BIOS (Basic Input/Output System).
It brought a parade of improvements including the GPT (GUID [Global Unique Identifier] Parition Table) partition table replacing the old MBR (Master Boot Record) partition table.
Yes, though I think the exception is (some?) ARM based PCs don't run UEFI, in which ARM in general doesn't have a universal standard for booting which adds complexity to it. Perhaps that's already changed though, I haven't kept up too well in the ARM space.
Not sure if maybe the Walmart self checkout terminals aren't x86 machines, perhaps they're ARM or another embedded type of system.
IDK where this is, but I repaired self checkouts in Oklahoma and Texas for years and they all had Windows. The regular registers looked like this when they booted. But going off the way the surrounding hardware is facing the same direction as the screen and what looks like a debit reader barely visible on the left and the printer on the right, it does look like a self checkout, just not one like I've ever seen.
Sam’s Club doesn’t use windows for their machines. The self checkout uses some pervert proprietary version of Linux and the registers for humans have some java powered thing. No windows.
Open-source Mbrowser 52.2, packed with security features
Does anyone know where to find this?
EDIT: All I can find are the user agent strings which indicate that this might be some IBM product. Also, there's rv:52.0 in the environment part, but IBM Mbrowser/60.5.1 in the engines part - so the actual version of the browser component might be 60.5.1 in this case, not 52.x. (There's also a rv:60.0 with Mbrowser/60.9.0 - no IBM this time.)
28 Comments
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 46 pts · 298d
No EFI environment detected?
Sounds like someone deleted the EFI partition maybe.
Or the machine is so old it still has a BIOS.
tburkhol@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 298d
Copyright line only mentions 2014, so I'm guessing it's 10 years old and only BIOS.
data1701d@startrek.website · 11 pts · 298d
UEFI first became common on new computers in 2011-2012, so I don’t a lot of 2014 computers were BIOS.
I have a cheapo laptop from 2012 (one of last Gateways) and it’s a UEFI machine.
At this point, I think 15 years ago is a more realistic estimate for the last legacy BIOS machines - my Win7 box with a 1st gen i5 is legacy BIOS.
Drito@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 296d
My Lenovo from 2015 has an option to fallback to Bios. And I used it.
data1701d@startrek.website · 1 pts · 295d
That's pretty normal for most UEFI x86_64 things up to 2020 or so.
redlemace@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 298d
Let's be gratefull it does not run win11 okay? (Or any windows for that matter)
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 298d
Yeah, I'd hate to think that Wal-Mart may be stealing my personal data.
Stez827@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 298d
Doesn't every computer have a bios? Genuinely asking
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 34 pts · 298d
I think (not 100% sure) that UEFI is a replacement for BIOS. All modern computers use UEFI.
People still colloquially call it "BIOS" because it serves a similar purpose, but there is a technical difference.
ultranaut@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 298d
That is correct, it's been quite awhile now since UEFI became standard but almost everyone still calls it the BIOS. Although I've noticed the word firmware is starting to be used more as well.
Peffse@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 298d
which is funny because firmware is a legacy term for what evolved into what is honestly software.
You don't need to socket any new chips nowadays.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 298d
I mean, if what we're using is pulled from a chipset on the motherboard whose storage space isn't rewritable from the OS interface, wouldn't that be called firmware? You are using a flash chip to boot after all.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 298d
You are in fact correct. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) is the modernized version of the very very old BIOS (Basic Input/Output System).
It brought a parade of improvements including the GPT (GUID [Global Unique Identifier] Parition Table) partition table replacing the old MBR (Master Boot Record) partition table.
affenlehrer@feddit.org · 8 pts · 298d
Computer is a pretty broad term. Not all have or need a BIOS, e.g. in embedded systems.
russjr08@bitforged.space · 7 pts · 298d
Yes, though I think the exception is (some?) ARM based PCs don't run UEFI, in which ARM in general doesn't have a universal standard for booting which adds complexity to it. Perhaps that's already changed though, I haven't kept up too well in the ARM space.
Not sure if maybe the Walmart self checkout terminals aren't x86 machines, perhaps they're ARM or another embedded type of system.
Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 298d
When I used to work at Walmart in 2012, they still used MS-DOS for their signage
tonyn@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 298d
If it ain't broke...
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 297d
the machine used to manage schedules at the job i had this summer used windows XP
spits@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 298d
IDK where this is, but I repaired self checkouts in Oklahoma and Texas for years and they all had Windows. The regular registers looked like this when they booted. But going off the way the surrounding hardware is facing the same direction as the screen and what looks like a debit reader barely visible on the left and the printer on the right, it does look like a self checkout, just not one like I've ever seen.
skiguy0123@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 297d
This is in Ontario
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 296d
Sam’s Club doesn’t use windows for their machines. The self checkout uses some pervert proprietary version of Linux and the registers for humans have some java powered thing. No windows.
spits@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
Yes, Sams club. Regular registers set up to be self checkouts. Yep, I remember that.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 297d
Looks like a successor to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4690_Operating_System
https://commerce.toshiba.com/wps/portal/marketing/?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2Fen-us%2Fhome%2Fsoftware%2Foperating-systems%2Ftcx-sky
mbirth@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 297d
Does anyone know where to find this?
EDIT: All I can find are the user agent strings which indicate that this might be some IBM product. Also, there's
rv:52.0in the environment part, butIBM Mbrowser/60.5.1in the engines part - so the actual version of the browser component might be 60.5.1 in this case, not 52.x. (There's also arv:60.0withMbrowser/60.9.0- noIBMthis time.)FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 5 pts · 296d
Sudo apt-get huge friggin discount
Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 298d
Maybe there were dual booting Windows and then a Windows update broke the boot partition
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 296d
Why do your self checkout kiosks look like they're 20 behind from the ones we use in Denmark?
skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 295d
Is this in canada, I worked at the us Walmart and our registers used Java and our self checkouts ran windows 10 under Walmart UI.