c/space · by nemeski@mander.xyz · 319d

Jeff Bezos Says He Doesn't Understand Why Anybody Alive Now Would Be 'Discouraged'—Because Soon, 'Millions Of People Will Be Living In Space'

https://tech.yahoo.com/science/articles/jeff-bezos-says-doesnt-understand-190104082.html

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LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 85 pts · 319d (10 replies)

Why the FUCK would I want to be living in space? Bitch, the food air water and gravity are HERE.

markz@suppo.fi · 21 pts · 319d

But in space amazon can own them!

GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 10 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Because tech billionaires can charge money for all of that in space!

pyre@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d

that's the main reason they actually hope they can do it. it fucking bothers them so much that they can't charge you for breathing.

DBT@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d (6 replies)

NGL I want off this planet.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 319d

I like this planet, they can fuck off.

echodot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 319d

I want off this planet onto a different earth-like planet in another star system, but even the most delusional billionaire doesn't think that we'll have access to other systems anytime soon.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 318d (3 replies)

There's nowhere else to go.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot

DBT@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 317d (2 replies)

Soon, millions of people will be living in space

Jeff Bezos, This post

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 316d (1 reply)

Yes, that's obviously horseshit if by 'soon', you mean the next 25 to 50 years.

We do not have anywhere close to the technology or infrastructure or underlying economic/sociopolitical integrity to be able to attempt even getting 10,000 regularly people living in space within a decade from now.

Just because Bezos says something doesn't mean it is true or reasonable or accurate.

Bezos is giving you a fanciful dream to embrace, while the world that he himself disproportionately shaped and transformed to his will... is actively crumbling and falling apart, for everyone with a net worth under ~10 to ~100 million dollars.

He says he is planning to build an at least mostly self sufficient solar panel manufacturing complex, on the moon, using moon dust as input material.

Amazon could not figure out how to make a working grocery store with a contactless payment paradigm.

They recently had a little bit of an oopsie after letting go of thousands of employees... that resulted in an internet brownout, that caused something like $200 billion of economic damage.

They are notorious for running their logistics services via horrific working conditions.

Remember when aerial drones were gonna deliver all our packages to us?

You... you trust this guy, these people, when they just ... say they're workshopping something, that it's all gonna work out just fine?

Don't get me wrong, Blue Origin is a lot less ludicrous of an operation than SpaceX, but ... this is still a fanciful, near delusional level, aspirational goal from Bezos, not some kind of master plan of 5 5 year plans all meticulously worked out, accounting for every possible contingency, that is just guaranteed to work.

DBT@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 316d

Brother (or sister), I was just making a joke comment on a post about people living in space. I do appreciate your concern tho.

floofloof@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 319d (4 replies)

"I believe, in the next couple of decades, there will be millions of people living in space. That's how fast this is going to accelerate," he said.

Jeff Bezos has been saying this stuff for a while. It's not clear whether he's just hyping his rockets, but he seems genuinely delusional and detached from reality. I remember an interview in which he was beside himself with enthusiasm for the idea that humanity was going to spread billions of people throughout the whole solar system. To most of us it's not clear why this is supposed to be a good thing, especially if these people will all be abused by mega corporations like Amazon. And it's utterly impossible. Besides, most people would prefer to do anything at all to try to save Earth from the ravages of capitalists like Bezos. But of course these techbro assholes prefer to live in sci-fi fantasies than actually have to pay their workers and their taxes and clean up their pollution.

DrFistington@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 319d (2 replies)

We should shoot his ass into space in the Apollo 13 capsule with all the manuals, and let him know that he has to safely navigate it around the moon and back to earth by himself, and if he does, we'll let him live.

He'll die within 2 days

blackbrook@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 316d

Let's be sure to send him with his bimbos and a couple of bottles of champagne to shake and spray.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 319d

i prefer him in a titan ICBM into space.

burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 319d

If he meant it, he would be pumping more resources into Blue Origin's Orbital Reef space station concept instead of sitting around and waiting for NASA to fund it. Vast is planning to launch a little 4 person private space station next year. Blue should have been way ahead of them.

adespoton@lemmy.ca · 33 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Jeff, my boy: Newsflash — humanity has ALWAYS lived in space. We’ve got an awesome orbital station that manages food, climate, entertainment, and almost everything else we’ve ever needed.

Are you calling for us to abandon ship for an inferior product?

RecallMadness@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 319d (1 reply)

One wholly owned, serviced, and supplied by Amazon.

But don’t worry. Orbital Prime is only $999 a year and includes unlimited deliveries and six return trips to land. (For now)

mech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 319d

swipe card
declined
oxygen pump shuts off

TheV2@programming.dev · 24 pts · 319d

Why did Jeff Bezos not distribute his earthly posessions across the world to everyone already? He will live in space soon anyway.

echodot@feddit.uk · 19 pts · 319d (3 replies)

"Jeff bezos says" has the same level of legitimacy as people going "as a mother". Yeah he's rich but he's also mind numbingly stupid. Why do I care about anything he has to say because none of it is reasonable logical or relevant.

Is rocket doesn't even get above the karmen line and takes about six people at a time. How are millions of people even going to get into space with that kind of transport system?

burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 319d (2 replies)

Let's at least hate accurately. Blue Origin is working on a ton of stuff, just super slowly. Their orbital rocket, New Glenn, should have its 2nd launch in a few weeks. They're working on a space station, Orbital Reef, but I have no idea what the timeline is. They're also allegedly working on an orbital crew capsule, but that has almost zero public info.

echodot@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 319d (1 reply)

I know about all the stuff he's working on but even if it all turns out to work the way he claims, it's not going to be able to transport millions of people into space over the next few years.

If we take the next few years to mean a decade from now then maybe will be at a point where extremely rich billionaires can pay to spend a weekend space on orbital reef or something similar. But I can't imagine will be at the point of millions of people being in space on a semi-permanent basis, not within a decade, maybe within 50 years depending on how SpaceX fair with starship, but that stretching the definition of soon a bit far.

Elon musk said that starship might be able to transport 100 people at a time, which is musk speak for 15 people. But let's say it can transport 100 people at a time, it can get to the moon and back again within 6 days, and they have multiple ships so that they can launch pretty much continuously with one launch every 24 hours. That sounds far fetched but it is remotely reasonable so let's go with it.

Assuming we were already at that level of capability to transport 1 million people to the moon with that method would take nearly 28 years to complete. So we'd be looking at 2048 as the date that 1 million people would be on the moon. But we don't have that capability yet so there's also however much lead time we would need to get to that point.

So even if we started now, as in today, it would be nearly the middle of the century before we achieved his goal, yeah that's not Soon™

burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 318d

Agreed, but your original 2nd paragraph made it seem like Blue is only doing New Shepherd. If Bezos wants a million people in space during his lifetime, he needs to be full speed ahead, "build it and they will come", on Orbital Reef modules, the rumored 7 seat New Glenn orbital capsule, lunar surface resource extraction and refinement... Massive investments in transportation, science, manufacturing, and tourism in cislunar space.

Instead, I'm guessing the progression will be more like:

Today: 10 people in orbit (the regular crew for ISS + Tiangong)
Record: 19 people in orbit (regular crew, second Soyuz, stranded Starliner crew, Dragon free flyer)
5 years prediction: Break 20 (some mix of station crew handovers, Tiangong expansion, US commercial station/module, Gaganyaan, Mangzhou, Orion, Starship)
10 years prediction: Break 50

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 319d

Hey Jeff, being good at buying something for a dollar and selling it for two doesn't mean you're a genius. Salesmen shouldn't be giving advice like that.

FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 18 pts · 319d

"I don't understand why people on the verge or starvation and ruin aren't happy with me indulging in pointless ego-projects?"

He's a cunt

CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social · 16 pts · 319d

I long for days when tech CEOs weren't so vocally obsessed with space, such that taking about space development could lead to interesting discussion of what a realistic timeframe actually is and what progress can be made, rather than just an assumption that one is a Musk or Bezos fanboy that actually believes we can do the work of centuries in 20 years somehow by giving the people that aready have too much money, even more money.

teft@piefed.social · 14 pts · 319d

Soon™

Pondis@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 319d (1 reply)

He would make breathable air a subscription based service and I'm not for it.

JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 317d

Perri Air

sanguinepar@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 319d

Jeff Bezos ~~Says He~~ Doesn't Understand ~~Why Anybody Alive Now Would Be 'Discouraged'—Because Soon, 'Millions Of People Will Be Living In Space'~~

Fixed that headline.

Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 13 pts · 319d (2 replies)

In Space!!

where slavery laws don't exist

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 13 pts · 319d (1 reply)

pyre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d

hey now this dude wanted to go to space to escape capitalism, not to spread it. he's infinitely better than this dickhead jeff bozo.

LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 319d

I guess this means he's going to give all his Amazon employees a pay raise equivalent to his own salary so that everyone will be equally financially able to travel to space.

Maeve@kbin.earth · 10 pts · 319d (6 replies)

So, I'm not digging through all my comments to find it, but I've said a while back they're planning to take the money, colonize space and take enough regular people to be slaves and leave the rest of us here to deal with the mess they made.

God only knows the mess they can make here, while making a worse mess of Earth and maybe the galaxy.

Beacon@fedia.io · 7 pts · 319d

Nah, they'll stay where it's best for a person to be, which is on earth. Space is a great place to visit but it's not gonna be a more pleasant place to stay than earth for a long time if ever

thegr8goldfish@startrek.website · 5 pts · 319d (2 replies)

So you're saying they're Gou'lds, then? Who has Stargate future on their doomsday bingo card?

Maeve@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 319d

Robert Heinlein or some other sci-fi writer wrote about it in the 60s or 70s, and the ruling class seems intent on using dystopian sci-fi as instruction manuals, so sure, pick your character from any tale.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 319d

goa'ulds have the luxury of using a stargate or a ha'tak to escape a planet when the people revolt. these fools think they have a spaceship to escape with.

freeman@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 319d (1 reply)

I mean, they are stupid cocaine-brained man-children, but it would be history's greatest fuckup to *choose * space over Earth. No matter how much we manage to fuck it up, it will always be more suitable for life than space or mars.

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 318d

it will always be more suitable for life than space

Not always. Eventually, our sun will expand and render Earth too hot for life.

Do we need to leave Earth today? No. Do we need to leave Earth soon? No. Is it wise to make long-term plans? Yes.

HubertManne@piefed.social · 10 pts · 319d

no. no they won't. it won't happen until we can manufacture in space with automation. We will need to be close to mechanisms that can manufacture themselves for it to be doable.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 319d

Obligatory: Mars for the Rich, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 318d

you first, dickhead.

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 9 pts · 319d

Billionaries love to huff their petrid farts.

edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 318d

Probably because that doesn't pay for rent, gas, groceries, clothes, utilities, bills, or healthcare. Are you accepting "will live in space soon" as payment on your website, Jeff? No? Well fuck off then.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 319d

Unless I'm on a federation starship I don't want to live in space. I want to live on earth where my species belongs

clot27@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 319d

Billionaires are so delusional

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 318d

Wut.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 319d (2 replies)

isnt me or bezos is taking alot of PEDs right now. he doesnt want to be seen a scrawny tech ceo.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d (1 reply)

They're all into body modification. Musk is taking HGH and that's why his chest is like that.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 318d

and some of them like thiel and bryan johnson, is spending millions a year on "life extending" pseudoscience treatments/research. bryan is a little more extreme than the others.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 319d (1 reply)

Ok sure but will I be able to afford food?

Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 319d

You will have a shock collar and like it.

OldGrayDog@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 318d

Everyone is missing the point, the extreme rich will be living in space as they continue to rape the earth of all its resources for their own sick pleasure.

SPRUNT@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d (1 reply)

Millions of people.... On a planet of billions.

Wasn't there a Matt Damon movie about that?

caoimhinr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 316d

Elysium

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 3 pts · 318d

Jeff: don’t worry I got this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qfVXLQBygw&pp=ygUaamVmZiBiZXpvcyB3aWxsaWFtIHNoYXRuZXI%3D

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 319d

Okay Jeff. How about less talk, more New Glenn launches?

DancingBear@midwest.social · 2 pts · 318d

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