Tbf, whenever there's a private tool like graphene, tor, tails, whonix, mullvad, matrix, jabber, pgp, etc?
Yes, criminals will use it, because of course they don't want to get caught for crimes just as much as we don't want to be tracked in general (maybe more, because crimes lol).
But also, criminals use roads, trains, busses, the USPS and private mail carriers, normal phones including SMS and calls, facetime, email, they drink water and eat food, on and on.
"Criminals use it" is a fucking stupid reason to ban anything, in fact it's a good reason we should adopt it too in terms of privacy, because if it works for them doing way worse than I am, then it ought to work just fine for me too. Besides over half of those criminals are just using WHM or whatever is the go to these days, define "criminals."
It certainly feels like GrapheneOS is the only project that is a threat to the government, which we all know have unlimited resources at their disposal, unlike Graphene Foundation.
this narrative that criminals use this OS, is exactly the excuse they'll be looking for, the privacy community don't have the high ground in this reality that we live in, considering past events (e.g. chat control) this content does more harm than good. (but some YouTuber has to get their Ad revenue)
he mentioned something about convenience in the last part, well if you throw them some money.. they could hire someone to fix those issues..
I just checked and I apparently have 137 apps on my phone. I think most of that though is just reading about some FOSS app, installing it to try it out and then just forgetting. I seem to have 4 different maps apps for example lol
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Lfrith@lemmy.ca · 58 pts · 296d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 5 pts · 295d
If you watch the video, they're citing Spanish officials. It was a big hurrah that went around a couple months ago.
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-i-use-grapheneos-on-pixel-3575477/
But yeah, it makes for great clickbait too. You know the GOS guys are foaming at the mouth already for their weekly HARRASSMENT debacle.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 295d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 1 pts · 295d
Agreed
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 294d
Tbf, whenever there's a private tool like graphene, tor, tails, whonix, mullvad, matrix, jabber, pgp, etc?
Yes, criminals will use it, because of course they don't want to get caught for crimes just as much as we don't want to be tracked in general (maybe more, because crimes lol).
But also, criminals use roads, trains, busses, the USPS and private mail carriers, normal phones including SMS and calls, facetime, email, they drink water and eat food, on and on.
"Criminals use it" is a fucking stupid reason to ban anything, in fact it's a good reason we should adopt it too in terms of privacy, because if it works for them doing way worse than I am, then it ought to work just fine for me too. Besides over half of those criminals are just using WHM or whatever is the go to these days, define "criminals."
harsh3466@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 295d
Fuck Linus.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 296d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 1 pts · 295d
Because he has 16 million subscribers? 🤔
Geodad@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 295d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 2 pts · 295d
It's what makes him relevant. Your personal feelings are not a valid reason.
Geodad@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 295d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 3 pts · 295d
They're not. And you know they're not.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 295d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 0 pts · 295d
Ok so now we've moved the goalposts from "relevant" to "trustworthy"?
leviathan@feddit.org · 28 pts · 295d
It certainly feels like GrapheneOS is the only project that is a threat to the government, which we all know have unlimited resources at their disposal, unlike Graphene Foundation.
this narrative that criminals use this OS, is exactly the excuse they'll be looking for, the privacy community don't have the high ground in this reality that we live in, considering past events (e.g. chat control) this content does more harm than good. (but some YouTuber has to get their Ad revenue)
he mentioned something about convenience in the last part, well if you throw them some money.. they could hire someone to fix those issues..
PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 295d
ulterno@programming.dev · 3 pts · 295d
Even better... Hire someone to fix those issues and submit an MR.
Forgottengoldfish@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 296d
I think Gamer Nexus settled the matter of Linus' value - feel free to disregard and move on.
Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 295d
I didn't know about it and just looked up the gamers nexus video. Bless gamers nexus for having our backs.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 296d
never gonna watch the "Idiot's" channel of choice
TwentyEight@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 294d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 4 pts · 294d
Criminals like privacy, too.
Neither. Just another shameless YouTuber farming for clicks with no regard for the damage it causes.
TwentyEight@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 294d
Ulrich@feddit.org · 1 pts · 292d
...what is "moronic", exactly?
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 295d
I have Linus blocked in my frontend and have no interest in unblocking.
upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 296d
I think if people look past the clickbait title and thumbnail the video is actually a positive for GOS
PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 295d
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 295d
I just checked and I apparently have 137 apps on my phone. I think most of that though is just reading about some FOSS app, installing it to try it out and then just forgetting. I seem to have 4 different maps apps for example lol
PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 295d
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 295d
Why are you letting someone you don't like take up time in your life
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 294d
Oh no, not this tech illiterate idiot again. Ocasionally he shows up in some threads just making a complete fool of himself.
ulterno@programming.dev · 2 pts · 295d
finalaccountforreal@piefed.social · 1 pts · 294d
What in the clickety bait