Started as a cover for not swearing in our new Congresswoman from Arizona, spun out of control.
We need to stop talking TRUMP. We need to start talking REPUBLICANS did this. Want lasting change? Stop aiming for the dementia patient cult leader. He'll die soon enough and blame will shift. Stop aiming at individual targets and shotgun this thing.
Stop talking "conservatives". Both anti-Trump and anti-conservative messaging is a personal attack, and they'll resist. Say, "The REPUBLICANS did this. REPUBLICANS are to blame."
These people have no loyalty to "Republicans". Hit them where they can fold up and agree. "I'm not the bad guy. My guy isn't the bad guy. It's those damned Republicans! If it weren't for those meddling kids!"
It's kind of all interwoven. They are pedophiles, who are dismantling democracy, while stealing unprecedented amounts of wealth in human history, while persecuting minorities, while praising god.
Just want to mention that I had 2 seconds of thinking crowder was the guy whose ideology ended bleeding out of his neck bc all these shitty con grifters are pretty much the same people and end up being interchangeable in my memory meat.
Wonder if his college tour schedule has changed much in the past couple months
Would releasing the Epstein files matter in anyway for Trump? Everyone that can be swayed by evidence already knows Trump is in there...
And the stuff the republicans are doing is terrible in it's own rights, saying "don't care, release the Epstein files" seems to be downplaying the situation.
I am open to being taught like a five year old, how continued focus on the Epstein files is a good progressive strategy.
There are always new fascists to replenish the ranks until the war is won. In a sense, ironically, it's social darwinism. "The last guy couldn't cut it. Are YOU fascist enough to get the job done?", and soon enough they have Mengele running the Department of Health
Honestly, from most of my experience in dealing with fox news poisoned people who are not total wastes irl : pedophillia is an actual hard line. Most of them have this fantasy of if they found a child predator that they would beat their face in. It is the act inexcusable.
They also are quite fond of the language of conspiracy theories and just the implication has gotten some of them to start thinking.
Will actual hard proof and just hearsay of not just Trump but a number of his people hit some of them like a truck? Yes. Will it sway every Republican? No. But considering how much of their power is based off the Evengelical idea that they are morally on high I would expect a shockwave. His support is already diminishing but add in the firey rage of having a known pedo in that holy of holy offices valued so intensely by the American-supremacists of the crowd and some frozen gears will start moving and every little bit helps.
As a person who abandoned prayer along with belief a long time ago it's hypocritical of me to say this, but "from your mouth to God's ears!"
(quotes because it's an old expression but perhaps not universally known, expressing a desire that God will not only hear but do something to make it happen. )
Here's the thing, I don't think Trump can weather this storm.
What he can do, is weather the doubt. But as soon as that doubt vanishes, he and a bunch of his associates will lose support from all but the most rabid of MAGA, and that's not enough support to remain in office.
We need to plan ahead. He is going to be gone at some point, and so bless the lord may that day come soon, and we need to prepare for what they've got in store then, because they are most certainly aware and have contingency plan upon contingency plan. No doubt they already have a candidate that they will push through their propaganda network, and don't worry, the MAGA crowd will vote for him, because they have nowhere else to turn to.
It's a good strategy because you have to push where they're weak. Where they have no response
They don't have a reasonable sounding excuse, and most of the country wants the files released. Every time it gets brought up, they look both weak and guilty
A lot of MAGA just wants to be on the winning team. It's stupid, but making them look weak chips at their base
Can you IMAGINE the fucking spin they'd put on anything coming out of an actual release of the files? They will grind that shit down and feed their millions of minions the Party Line and then Trump will take a shit on the floor of the UN and everyone will move on. Fascism is coming, no files are going to change that. It's actually kind of the cause it's coming.
JFC I shouldn't need to defend the dems, there's so much valid criticism out there. But saying they're not doing something as a way to dismiss the #1 example of them doing something is kinda... unreasonable.
It’s not like they can just shut down the government any time they want. It’s down because there is no budget agreement, which only happens once a year. For the previous 8 months, every court has bent the knee to Trump.
They’re doing something right now. Now is the time to be hopeful, and use that hope to further steps into the right direction. Go donate to a food co-op or something instead of doomposting on lemmy
It’s not like they can just shut down the government any time they want.
Sure, but they could have done this in May, and they decided to give Donald license to do another summer of fascism AND helped ease the passage of the BBB, after spending the first four months of the year destroying the country. Again, I will give them credit when they do something meaningful.
They're only acting now out of self-interest and nothing else. Definitely glad to see them doing the bare minimum even if it's for selfish reasons, but let's be clear, this is the bare minimum.
This is great and all but...You are an elected official with an office budget. Get a sign professionally made or have a friend with nice penmanship draw the sign FFS. Going up against such sloppy thinking opponents doesn't mean you make sloppy signs. Do better so as to look better and be thought of better and,,,dare I say, professional and serious.
i don't think she has an 'office budget' yet. she hasn't been sworn-in and seated because tiny mike johnson refuses to allow it since she represents the vote needed to force a house vote on the pedo files.
Whilst she makes a real and serious point, if she belabors it by dressing it up as something official, then she weakens whatever authenticity she has with the people that see it.
Making it as ad-hoc and sloppy as possible, genuinely sells the idea that it was done on the spot, without AI fakery, and leaves it open to debate on whether or not this is an official position of the Democrats.
I hear you, but I think the way she did it was absolutely perfect all things in consideration
53 Comments
tortina_original@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 281d
Is this real?
If so, that woman is a fucking legend.
frunch@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 281d
It's real, and she is a fucking legend 🥂
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 16 pts · 281d
That lady is indeed a legend.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 94 pts · 281d
Mike Johnson downvoted this.
dmention7@midwest.social · 43 pts · 281d
Mike Johnson once downvoted picture of a cute kitten peeking out of a box.... on c/cats, no.less!
CatZoomies@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 281d
shalafi@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 281d
Started as a cover for not swearing in our new Congresswoman from Arizona, spun out of control.
We need to stop talking TRUMP. We need to start talking REPUBLICANS did this. Want lasting change? Stop aiming for the dementia patient cult leader. He'll die soon enough and blame will shift. Stop aiming at individual targets and shotgun this thing.
Stop talking "conservatives". Both anti-Trump and anti-conservative messaging is a personal attack, and they'll resist. Say, "The REPUBLICANS did this. REPUBLICANS are to blame."
These people have no loyalty to "Republicans". Hit them where they can fold up and agree. "I'm not the bad guy. My guy isn't the bad guy. It's those damned Republicans! If it weren't for those meddling kids!"
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 54 pts · 281d
Is this hope I keep tasting the last few days?
Mamdani wins, Pelosi stepping down, dems winning multiple races, reps doing things like this....
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 281d
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/phoenix-congresswoman-trolls-speaker-covering-up-epstein-files-40618880/
WalterLego@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 281d
The Epstein files are the distraction. Republicans dismantle democracy while people fight over the files.
Imagine doing something so horrible that you underage prostitutes as a smokescreen.
tomiant@piefed.social · 29 pts · 281d
It's kind of all interwoven. They are pedophiles, who are dismantling democracy, while stealing unprecedented amounts of wealth in human history, while persecuting minorities, while praising god.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 281d
Not "underage prostitutes", like they had any real agency is getting groomed and traded by billionaires, but children. He fucked children.
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com · 23 pts · 281d
Raped. He raped children.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 281d
tomiant@piefed.social · 5 pts · 281d
A sex felon.
Wow it kind of made me vomit a little saying that.
Mongostein@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 281d
Releasing the files would give a lot of evidence to jail the people destroying democracy. They go hand-in-hand because it’s the same people.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 281d
It also focuses rage. It's something everybody can agree on.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 1 pts · 157d
underage prostitutes implies the children they raped were professionals.
FosterMolasses@leminal.space · 28 pts · 281d
What a fucking legend lmao
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 27 pts · 281d
America, saved by a meme. It might work.
inbeesee@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 281d
This needs to replace the template with Crowder
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 281d
Just want to mention that I had 2 seconds of thinking crowder was the guy whose ideology ended bleeding out of his neck bc all these shitty con grifters are pretty much the same people and end up being interchangeable in my memory meat.
Wonder if his college tour schedule has changed much in the past couple months
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 281d
Is he still refusing to swear her in
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 281d
No one can change her mind. Reality is reality.
Republicans are the party of pedophiles.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 281d
Did you know Mr. Johnson's nickname in high school was 'Tiny'?
tomiant@piefed.social · 9 pts · 281d
They called him Tiny Johnson?
WarmSoda@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
That's a dick move
LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 281d
Would releasing the Epstein files matter in anyway for Trump? Everyone that can be swayed by evidence already knows Trump is in there...
And the stuff the republicans are doing is terrible in it's own rights, saying "don't care, release the Epstein files" seems to be downplaying the situation.
I am open to being taught like a five year old, how continued focus on the Epstein files is a good progressive strategy.
nyctre@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 281d
Well, even if trump himself can weather that storm, the rest of the powerful people in there might not. Either that or it's just a distraction.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 281d
There are always new fascists to replenish the ranks until the war is won. In a sense, ironically, it's social darwinism. "The last guy couldn't cut it. Are YOU fascist enough to get the job done?", and soon enough they have Mengele running the Department of Health
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 281d
Honestly, from most of my experience in dealing with fox news poisoned people who are not total wastes irl : pedophillia is an actual hard line. Most of them have this fantasy of if they found a child predator that they would beat their face in. It is the act inexcusable.
They also are quite fond of the language of conspiracy theories and just the implication has gotten some of them to start thinking.
Will actual hard proof and just hearsay of not just Trump but a number of his people hit some of them like a truck? Yes. Will it sway every Republican? No. But considering how much of their power is based off the Evengelical idea that they are morally on high I would expect a shockwave. His support is already diminishing but add in the firey rage of having a known pedo in that holy of holy offices valued so intensely by the American-supremacists of the crowd and some frozen gears will start moving and every little bit helps.
LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 281d
Thank you for your assessement
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 264d
As a person who abandoned prayer along with belief a long time ago it's hypocritical of me to say this, but "from your mouth to God's ears!"
(quotes because it's an old expression but perhaps not universally known, expressing a desire that God will not only hear but do something to make it happen. )
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 281d
Here's the thing, I don't think Trump can weather this storm.
What he can do, is weather the doubt. But as soon as that doubt vanishes, he and a bunch of his associates will lose support from all but the most rabid of MAGA, and that's not enough support to remain in office.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 281d
We need to plan ahead. He is going to be gone at some point, and so bless the lord may that day come soon, and we need to prepare for what they've got in store then, because they are most certainly aware and have contingency plan upon contingency plan. No doubt they already have a candidate that they will push through their propaganda network, and don't worry, the MAGA crowd will vote for him, because they have nowhere else to turn to.
theneverfox@pawb.social · 3 pts · 281d
It's a good strategy because you have to push where they're weak. Where they have no response
They don't have a reasonable sounding excuse, and most of the country wants the files released. Every time it gets brought up, they look both weak and guilty
A lot of MAGA just wants to be on the winning team. It's stupid, but making them look weak chips at their base
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 281d
Can you IMAGINE the fucking spin they'd put on anything coming out of an actual release of the files? They will grind that shit down and feed their millions of minions the Party Line and then Trump will take a shit on the floor of the UN and everyone will move on. Fascism is coming, no files are going to change that. It's actually kind of the cause it's coming.
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 280d
I love what Newsome inspired from candidates
ValarieLenin@midwest.social · 3 pts · 281d
o7
Sagan_Wept@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 281d
She spelled Trump wrong
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 281d
I like it.
But I wish these Democrats were good for something more than performative bullshit.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 281d
They've shut down the government for more than a month holding out for healthcare, that's not exactly form over function.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 281d
Yeah, after letting Donald do absolutely everything he wanted for eight.
I'll believe they mean business when they actually do something.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 281d
"No, that doing something doesn't count"
JFC I shouldn't need to defend the dems, there's so much valid criticism out there. But saying they're not doing something as a way to dismiss the #1 example of them doing something is kinda... unreasonable.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 1 pts · 157d
The government shutdown was for nothing in the end. It was a gigantic waste of time and peoples lives.
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 281d
It’s not like they can just shut down the government any time they want. It’s down because there is no budget agreement, which only happens once a year. For the previous 8 months, every court has bent the knee to Trump.
They’re doing something right now. Now is the time to be hopeful, and use that hope to further steps into the right direction. Go donate to a food co-op or something instead of doomposting on lemmy
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 281d
For starters, I did.
Sure, but they could have done this in May, and they decided to give Donald license to do another summer of fascism AND helped ease the passage of the BBB, after spending the first four months of the year destroying the country. Again, I will give them credit when they do something meaningful.
They're only acting now out of self-interest and nothing else. Definitely glad to see them doing the bare minimum even if it's for selfish reasons, but let's be clear, this is the bare minimum.
WarmSoda@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 281d
You agree they can't shut the government down any time they want, and then you want them to do exactly that...
ReverendIrreverence@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 281d
This is great and all but...You are an elected official with an office budget. Get a sign professionally made or have a friend with nice penmanship draw the sign FFS. Going up against such sloppy thinking opponents doesn't mean you make sloppy signs. Do better so as to look better and be thought of better and,,,dare I say, professional and serious.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 281d
Nah, its exactly as much respect as is due to the original "change my mind" meme.
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 10 pts · 281d
It is amazing how completely this comment misses the point, the joke, the meme, shitposting, trolling, just absolutely every nuance of context.
relativestranger@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 281d
i don't think she has an 'office budget' yet. she hasn't been sworn-in and seated because tiny mike johnson refuses to allow it since she represents the vote needed to force a house vote on the pedo files.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 281d
Whilst she makes a real and serious point, if she belabors it by dressing it up as something official, then she weakens whatever authenticity she has with the people that see it.
Making it as ad-hoc and sloppy as possible, genuinely sells the idea that it was done on the spot, without AI fakery, and leaves it open to debate on whether or not this is an official position of the Democrats.
I hear you, but I think the way she did it was absolutely perfect all things in consideration
Jyek@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 281d
How about don't waste taxpayer money on doing a meme professionally before you've even been sworn into office? Thanks
tomiant@piefed.social · 0 pts · 281d
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 281d
Using state resources for something like this is unethical, and would get a pleb fired.